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Which film have you seen more than any other?

Is there at least one film you've seen more than 50 times?  

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  1. 1. Is there at least one film you've seen more than 50 times?

    • Yes!
    • Um, no. Who sees a film that many times? Losers.


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Yup, agreed. I'm just so totally in love with this universe, I want to see as much footage as possible. But there's no doubt that the omission of that sequence helps the focus and momentum of the film's finale.

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Yes. Great little detail. Also says a lot about the xeno -- the cat is not relevant enough for survival. First hint of the stronger 'personality' traits that it gets in the later escape craft finale (like the inner mouth behaving as a middle finger to Ripley, telling her "you better stay the fuck off, and let me be here -- or I'll kill you"). I wonder if I'm the only one who's felt a bit sorry for the alien in its demise. :D

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5 hours ago, Alexcremers said:

 

And apparently, the average JWfaner doesn't outgrow this stage. Personally, I think EVERYTHING has a limited shelf-life. The more you watch, hear or experience something, the quicker it reaches its expiration date. That's why I try not to watch my absolute favorite movies too much.

Try not to watch, too much.

TRY NOT TO WATCH, TOO MUCH!!!

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6 hours ago, Brundlefly said:

I prefer the TV of Alien. It's my second favourite film.

 

Ultimately, I do too. And it's my second favourite film too -- although it shares that spot with its sequel.

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15 minutes ago, Thor said:

Ultimately, I do too. And it's my second favourite film too -- although it shares that spot with its sequel.

What a coincidence, although Aliens on the other hand is not even in my top 50. Which two films share the winner's podium with Alien/Aliens for you?

 

                                                   1.

              2.              Once Upon a Time in America

           Alien                                                                     3.

                                                                                   The Fly

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9 hours ago, Thor said:

Yes. Great little detail. Also says a lot about the xeno -- the cat is not relevant enough for survival. First hint of the stronger 'personality' traits that it gets in the later escape craft finale (like the inner mouth behaving as a middle finger to Ripley, telling her "you better stay the fuck off, and let me be here -- or I'll kill you"). I wonder if I'm the only one who's felt a bit sorry for the alien in its demise. :D

 

In general, I love how weird the climax feels. Of course it's tense 'cause you have the protagonist trapped with this creature that seems indestructible, but the xenomorph is pretty chill in that scene...there's a certain tranquility to it, but it's the kind of uneasy stillness that happens when you're in a potentially life-or-death situation and you don't know if you're gonna be alright by the end of it. I don't remember musically what's going on there, but I want to say Goldsmith plays into that feeling, too...was it unscored? And when the xenomorph is finally gone, there's relief, but to me it always felt more weary than "hell yeah!" 

 

But of course you, Thor, would lament the death of an inhuman creature that kills people that have very human personality. ;)

 

9 hours ago, Thor said:

 (like the inner mouth behaving as a middle finger to Ripley, telling her "you better stay the fuck off, and let me be here -- or I'll kill you"). 

 

According to Scott and Goldsmith, there was a different part of anatomy that was supposed to evoke....

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1 hour ago, Nick Parker said:

According to Scott and Goldsmith, there was a different part of anatomy that was supposed to evoke....

 

Of course. It's phallic (literally killing its prey by an act of penetration). Paul Sammon goes into this too, in his excellent book about Scott. One of several Freudian images in Giger's designs. But in that particular scene, it's used more as a 'warning' to Ripley. It knows she is there, and it knows it's the way to further survival. But then she provokes it out of its hiding place.

 

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What a coincidence, although Aliens on the other hand is not even in my top 50. Which two films share the winner's podium with Alien/Aliens for you?

 

ALIEN and ALIENS share the second place on the alltime podium for me. They're both two of cinema history's greatest masterpieces, for different reasons. The 'winner' for me is JURASSIC PARK. Incidentally, I just now finished ALIENS too, for the umpteenth time. The Special Edition, of course, which I -- like Cameron himself -- think is the superior version ("40 miles of bad road", as he says).

 

I've always wanted to see more of Hadley's Hope beyond what's in the excellent Newt family prologue. Love that shot of the main 'street', with the Bar sign.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Thor said:

Of course. It's phallic (literally killing its prey by an act of penetration). Paul Sammon goes into this too, in his excellent book about Scott. One of several Freudian images in Giger's designs. But in that particular scene, it's used more as a 'warning' to Ripley. It knows she is there, and it knows it's the way to further survival. But then she provokes it out of its hiding place

 

You're not wrong, but what I was getting at was that Goldsmith even described that particular moment as lascivious, to which Scott wanted that portrayed musically (before deciding it'd be more effective without music). So they were going for more of a sexual predator, rape subtext in that spot.

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Yeah, that's also a feasible interpretation, especially given Ripley's semi-nude, exposed vulnerability. But the 'rape' analogy works better in other parts of the movie, IMO. The dropship sequence is more of a "tease" or middle finger, IMO. They no doubt made the right call on the absence of music, that's for sure.

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