KK 3,307 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 1 minute ago, publicist said: The waltz is even a potent dramatic idea, but alas, all the heavy stomping kind of negates it. I like the lighter cues, i. e. 'Earth', 'Now We Are Free' etc. The new age stuff was always the real selling point for me. That and the Gorecki and Wagner knockoffs. The way Zimmer blows up the drama has always been a guilty pleasure. The waltz has flashes of real potential that are occasionally brought down by The Rock-style stomping, as you put it. It could really benefit from a fully orchestral recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Just now, KK said: It could really benefit from a fully orchestral recording. I'm waiting for Tadlow to tackle it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 I have learned the hard way that Zimmer without synths is even worse than the original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Fitzpatrick will find a way to make it work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 He sure tried ...and failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephariel 451 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, KK said: The new age stuff was always the real selling point for me. That and the Gorecki and Wagner knockoffs. The way Zimmer blows up the drama has always been a guilty pleasure. The waltz has flashes of real potential that are occasionally brought down by The Rock-style stomping, as you put it. It could really benefit from a fully orchestral recording. I think most orchestral recording enhanced the action cues but adding sound effects like hammer forging steel doesn't work outside of the context of the film. But the cue "Barbarian Horde" is easily among my favorite action cues ever. I love structural action cues, ones that knows exactly where the next note is going forming a cohesive whole despite relying on pounding sequences to get its point across at times. I much prefer action cues like that than orchestral fluff like what you find in Giacchino's or Desplat's action cues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 'Barbarian Horde' is a variation on 'The Battle', only even more is a coarse and vulgar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephariel 451 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, publicist said: 'Barbarian Horde' is a variation on 'The Battle', only even more is a coarse and vulgar. Coarse and vulgar for you. Epic and Badass for me. That is how I want my battle scenes to sound like. James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Gladiator movie would have deserved a better score and Conan the Barbarian score would have deserved a better movie. Gladiator movie with a Conan-like score by Poledouris? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 It is most definitely a masterpiece. A beautifully rich and layered score; the perfect music to listen to while reading a good book. Perhaps Zimmer's finest score, at least in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Cretins, all of you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,639 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 On 11/27/2017 at 11:55 AM, Nick1066 said: To be blunt, people who don't like Interstellar lack the intellectual ability to understand its dense scientific concepts. don't be condescending to those who may not share your opinion. I fully understood the science. I also understand that to claim love as a scientific principle in the way presented is nonsense (and unprovable by science in principle). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,473 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 On 11/27/2017 at 12:55 PM, Nick1066 said: To be blunt, people who don't like Interstellar lack the intellectual ability to understand its dense scientific concepts. Interstellar is like a minefield of plot holes. But that's a Nolan speciality. He's never encountered a plot hole that he hasn't wholeheartedly jumped into. Interstellar hinges on a concept that while allowed to exist by science has no real physical evidence to back it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 What concept is that? Want to discuss some of those plotholes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 8 hours ago, Tom said: don't be condescending to those who may not share your opinion. On 27/11/2017 at 7:37 PM, Nick1066 said: Oh crikey I was just taking the piss. Nick1Ø66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Who cares about scientific accuracy in film? A film isn't grounded by virtue of it being scientifically realistic, but by virtue of the people in it behaving like living, breathing human beings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,688 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 15 hours ago, Tom said: I also understand that to claim love as a scientific principle in the way presented is nonsense (and unprovable by science in principle). Well Dumbledore said love was the most powerful magic. Are you saying that's nonsense too?! Interstellar is to science what Harry Potter is to magic. To some, science may appear to be magic. Your mind: BLOWN. 6 hours ago, Chen G. said: Who cares about scientific accuracy in film? A film isn't grounded by virtue of it being scientifically realistic, but by virtue of the people in it behaving like living, breathing human beings. Um, there's no air to breathe in space. That's kind of the point Chen G. See this is what I meant about people not understanding the science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Matt Damon and a couple of other issues undermine the whole thing. I was disappointed, because parts are very effective and the overall tone is well pitched. But as usual Nolan's bad habits reared their annoying head again (too much dialogue and explaining the plot). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idril 86 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Yeah Gladiator used to be on repeat eternally for me. Haven't listened in a while but this is also making me want to revisit it! God I would love Zimmer to compose something like that again. That said, I still voted masterpiece for his Interstellar, which is definitely his greatest in recent years. As for the film, I would hesitate to call it a masterpiece although I really enjoy it. I think it has an incredible second act but there is definitely sloppiness there, especially towards the end. I do find it visually beautiful always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 5 hours ago, idril said: I think it has an incredible second act but there is definitely sloppiness there, especially towards the end. Idril, you're breaking my heart! You're going down a path I can't follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Gladiator is awesome. Film and score. Interstellar is awesome. Score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Blumenkohl said: Gladiator is awesome. Film and score. Interstellar is awesome. Score. Gladiator is awesome. Film. Interstellar is awesome. Film and score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,473 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Gladiator is NOT awesome. Neither film. Nor score. Interstellar is NOT awesome. Neither film. Nor score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 There are no awesome films. Every movie is terrible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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