A24 4,326 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 That's a bit too nerdy for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Are most people in agreement here then that QT is the ideal choice to breathe new life into the franchise, in these now long years of shoddy Star Trek? John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 No, not even remotely. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Which director would you choose instead of him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 The franchise is on its last legs anyways; it may as well go out in a blaze of glory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Quintus said: Which director would you choose instead of him? Director? I dunno. Star Trek isnt really about directors. Matthew Reeves would probably be a safe pair of hands. Right now Star Trek needs a good show runner more than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 17 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Director? I dunno. Star Trek isnt really about directors. Matthew Reeves would probably be a safe pair of hands. Right now Star Trek needs a good show runner more than anything else. Star Trek fans want everything to stay the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 No, not at all. But we don't need QT to live out his Shatner fantasy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Yeah that comes off as a little weird, and I'm not sure why people are pointing to that as evidence that Tarantino knows what makes the franchise "tick". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 He's a terrible choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Alex is wrong. Star Trek fans don't want it to stay the same they want it to stay safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 4 hours ago, John said: The franchise is on its last legs anyways; it may as well go out in a blaze of glory. Right. It’s not like Tarantino’s one-off movie will be “the new direction” for Star Trek, just one guy’s take, a guy who at least has an idea of something fun to do with it. I’d watch it! As for TV, I think the ideal would be to just do a Next Next Generation. New crew, on a new Enterprise, in the “present” timeline, with an episodic format and an emphasis on deep space exploration like the original. I think the producers have felt hemmed in by several factors — 1. Extensive backlog of old shows/episodes; 2. The current (theoretically) movie series; 3. The Orville. But I think they just need to get over it, and do it right, with great fanfare and with an A-list cast and a writing team with some serious sci-fi chops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 43 minutes ago, Pellaeon said: As for TV, I think the ideal would be to just do a Next Next Generation. New crew, on a new Enterprise, in the “present” timeline, with an episodic format and an emphasis on deep space exploration like the original. I think the producers have felt hemmed in by several factors — 1. Extensive backlog of old shows/episodes; 2. The current (theoretically) movie series; 3. The Orville. But I think they just need to get over it, and do it right, with great fanfare and with an A-list cast and a writing team with some serious sci-fi chops. Oof. The Next Generation was already a riff on the original premise, why would we want to see that idea played out for a third time? Not to mention, we've already seen three full-fledged generations of an Enterprise crew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 But that's what Star Trek is, by default. DS9 worked as a reaction to that. To the clean stakes of TNG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Star Trek does seem threatened by the rise of The Orville, or "hemmed in" by it, as it were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 No one gives a shit about The Orville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 It's better than everything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 It's better than Enterprise and Discovery... Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,590 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, Jay said: It's better than Enterprise and Discovery... And Voyager. And the TNG films. And the Kelvin films. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Jay said: It's better than Enterprise and Discovery... You wouldn't know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Anyone else like Enterprise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 I'm told its mostly fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 More good to great Trek was produced under Berman than anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 I like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Stefancos said: More good to great Trek was produced under Berman than anyone else. There isn’t really anything to hate about Enterprise, it’s just they were clearly running on fumes at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Is this like when crazy unhinged Williams zealots say they hate Ben Burtt's contributions to Star Wars soundtracks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 I think that all boils down to the post-1997 sound mixes of the movies tending to favor SFX over music and that one clip where he drowns out some epic bombast in Episode III with explosion sounds and Lucas tells him to lower it down. Rick Berman inherited ST after Roddenberry by most accounts was fucking it up. It improved with the later seasons of TNG, DS9 and Voyager after a bumpy start. That was the golden age of ST. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,392 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 LOL Quote Time To Stop Holding Your Breath For Quentin Tarantino’s STAR TREK In a new interview with the Consequence of Sound podcast, Quentin Tarantino says he's "steering away" from his proposed R-rated Star Trek movie, and that his tenth (and, allegedly, final) film will likely be something smaller. We've been skeptical but hopeful about the idea of a QT Star Trek from the moment the idea got announced, but it sounds like it's finally time to stop holding our breath. Adding that he's had no recent conversations with Paramount about the project (which has been gestating for the past few years, with a script written by The Revenant's Mark L. Smith), Tarantino also says that this year's Once Upon a Time in Hollywood may ultimately function as his last big cinematic statement, and that he's got no idea what the follow-up might entail: “One of the things that Hollywood has done is that it has made me feel like I’ve made my big statement on Hollywood and that there is the accumulation of a career, accumulation of my interest, accumulation of the filmography. If the idea that all the films are a boxcar and it’s all one train, they’re all telling one story. Well, this is the climax, so I can actually see now my 10th movie probably being a little smaller. You know, an author’s note. And look, I might come up with a really big idea. But right now, the idea of a smaller audience almost all the way around is appealing to me.” This is, as we mentioned up top, not the biggest shock in the world. Tarantino making a big franchise movie his 10th and final film always seemed questionable, and even moreso given that he didn't write the script himself (worth noting: according to previous reports, Smith's script was based on an idea pitched by Tarantino himself). Furthermore, with every other iron Tarantino currently has in the fire (which includes a limited TV series, a novel, and a play), it's also easy to imagine the timeline on this project being a concern for Paramount. In any event, until we hear otherwise, we're going to operate on the assumption that the Quentin Tarantino Star Trek project is no longer moving forward. In the meantime: anyone got a copy of Smith's script? We've heard some very intriguing rumblings re: the plot of that script, but sure would like to confirm those rumblings before sharing with the crowd. https://birthmoviesdeath.com/2019/12/16/time-to-stop-holding-your-breath-for-quentin-tarantinos-star-trek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Good. There was no reason for this. Star Trek needs to get over it's nostalgia factor and move on. Roddenberry knew this in 1986. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted December 16, 2019 Author Share Posted December 16, 2019 Haha QT is so full of himself but I kinda love it. "Author's note" sheesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,392 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 I can imagine a Trek directed by Tarantino: 2h45 of Sam Jackson, Tim Robbins, Michael Madsen, Harvey Keitel, Christoph Waltz, etc., sitting on the bridge of the Enterprise and having memorable dialogue with references to the pop culture of 200 years ago. Then, on the final 15 minutes, the Enterprise is invaded by Klingons. The crew shoots and explodes the heads of the enemies with their blasters, with Sam Jackson shouting "Someone get these motherfucking klingons out of my motherfucking ship!" End Credits. First Trek movie to win the Academy Award for Best Screenplay. Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 24 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Good. There was no reason for this. Star Trek needs to get over it's nostalgia factor and move on. Roddenberry knew this in 1986. Star Trek is nostalgia. Always has been always will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,473 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 On 6/12/2019 at 4:15 PM, TheUlyssesian said: I don't think this film is ever happening. Seems like a mirage at best, delusion at worst. Feeling sorry for the poor suckers who thought this film would ever happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 55 minutes ago, JoeinAR said: Star Trek is nostalgia. Always has been always will be. Nothing can start with nostalgia. JoeinAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Quentin Tarantino doing Star Trek makes as much sense to me as Gustavo Santaolalla doing Star Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 53 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: Nothing can start with nostalgia. Of course it can. Star Trek did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Star Wars 77 is pure nostalgia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 8 hours ago, JoeinAR said: Star Trek is nostalgia. Always has been always will be. Its not. Nostalgia is regressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 It's nostalgic, contemporary and futuristic. JoeinAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Star Trek was nostalgic from the beginning. It had a familiar quality from the very beginning as it was designed to. Wagon Train in space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Thankfully the TV western died a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 I believe it is a time for a renaissance. I love western radio shows. A younger version of me would have balked butvdamn they are good. They are so not pc and down right racist by todays standards. The same with WWII dramas. Germans and Japanese are given no human compassion. I love old tv and movies. You see a reality that is truthful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I dunno, there’s something odd going on between Star Trek 4 and Tranatino Trek — they keep trading off which one seems to be cancelled and which one seems to be going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 A Star Trek movie by Quentin Tarantino will never happen. I sometimes believe in wonders, but hell will freeze before that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 It has a far better chance of being realized than the Rian Johnson Star Wars Trilogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 He said he will only make 10 movies. He can't possibly end his career with a Star Trek movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I believe QT will only make 10 movies as much as I believed Steven Soderbergh would stick to his "retiring" after Side Effects. Soderbergh didn't and QT won't either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 He said after his tenth movie he wants to do theater. Star Trek: The Stage Play? Will Steef go all the way to Broadway to see it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,344 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 On 12/5/2017 at 7:56 PM, Sweeping Strings said: So the next Trek will be 2 hours 45, shot in 70mm but mostly set on the bridge of the Enterprise and being shot by a phaser will make your head explode? Great ... Me, back on page 1 of this thread 2 years ago. Seems we are of a similar mind, Edmilson . Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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