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      Donation time at JWFan   01/16/18

      Hello!

      For those who may not know, JWFan relies entirely on donations to keep running.  Donations pay for our server bills, as well as keeping our domain and Invision Powerboard fees.
      As an incentive to donate, I am offering a series of free CDS to anyone who donates over a certain amount!   Last time this was a modest success, where I raised $500 of our desired $1,000 and mailed out 3 free CDs to lucky JWFanners.  This time I'll be doing the raffling a littler different!   Our goal is $1000 once again, and I will have four tiers of free CDs you can win once again.  But this time, the more you donate, the more entries into each raffle you'll get!   Each $10 you donate gets your name put into the raffle mug once for the $10 pool, twice for the $20 pool, thrice for the $30 pool, and five times into the $50 pool.  Here is the list of CDs you can win - and I have more to add at a later time when I get a little more organized (I'll post what they are by Friday at the latest)   The $10 pool (Every $10 you donate gets you one ticket into this pool) - will be drawn as soon as we hit $250 donated Tyler Bates - God of War; Ascension (OST, La La Land Records) Danny Elfman - Planet of the Apes (OST, Sony) Danny Elfman - Taking Woodstock (OST, La La Land Records) Christopher Lennertz - Identity Thief (OST, La La Land Records) Christopher Lennertz - Medal of Honor: Rising Sun (OST) Michael Giacchino - Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol (OST, Varese Sarabande) Dave Holmes & Various - Ocean's 11 (OST, WB Records) Joel McNeely & Various - Hollywood '94 (Varese Sarabande) Joe Kraemer - Jack Reacher (OST, La La Land Records) John Williams - Born on the Fourth of July (OST, MCA Records)   The $20 pool (Every $10 you donate gets you two ticket into this pool, must donate at least $20 to be eligible) - will be drawn as soon as we hit $500 donated John Barry - First Love (La La Land) Jerry Goldsmith - The Challenge (La La Land) Jerry Goldsmith - In Harm's Way (2009 Intrada edition) Jerry Goldsmith - The Red Pony (Varese) Alan Silvestri - Dutch (La La Land) Shirley Walker - Willard (La La Land) John Williams - Family Plot (Varese Sarabande) or, any of the above CDs if you prefer   The $30 pool (Every $10 you donate gets you three ticket into this pool, must donate at least $30 to be eligible) - will be drawn as soon as we hit $750 donated James Horner - Gorky Park (OOP Kritzerland Edition) James Newton Howard - Outbreak (2CD, Varese Deluxe Edition) Laurence Rosenthal - Clash of the Titans (2CD, Intrada) John Williams - The Fury (2CD, La La Land) John Williams - Jane Eyre (OOP, La La Land) or, any of the above CDs if you prefer   The $50 pool (Every $10 you donate gets you five ticket into this pool, must donate at least $50 to be eligible) - will be drawn as soon as we hit $1,000 donated Jerry Fielding - The Wild Bunch (3CD, FSM) Ira Newborn - The Naked Gun trilogy (3CD, La La Land) Shirley Walker and Various - Batman: The Animated Series Volume 3 (4CD, La La Land) or, any of the above CDs if you prefer     All shipping will be paid by me to anywhere in the world!   I will pull names from a hat for each pool, and you get to pick whatever CD set you want if I pull your name!   To be eligible, leave your JWFan username in the comments area of your donation.  If you want to donate but not be in the running for a free CD, mention that in the comment.   Use this link or the link on the mainpage.       Thank you!   Jason, Ricard, and Andreas.
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Williams nominated for THE POST at 2018 Golden Globe

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Fantastic news! Congratulations Maestro!

 

Obviously TLJ wasn't eligible due to the late screenings (or the fact nobody has heard it). Still, with only 40 minutes of score, I can't see it winning.

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2 minutes ago, Skywanker said:

TLJ maybe not deserve to be nominated :(:eh:

 

It's just the typical thing where these organizations rush to get their nominees out for the headlines, so they finish up before they've even seen / heard everything the year has to offer.  It's pretty pathetic, really.

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9 minutes ago, someonefun124 said:

 

I haven't heard the score but why would it be disqualified?

 

The score could be disqualified if it doesn't contain enough original material. Ref. Elgar. Not that anything coming from Zimmer could be called original...

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3 hours ago, Jay said:

 

It's just the typical thing where these organizations rush to get their nominees out for the headlines, so they finish up before they've even seen / heard everything the year has to offer.  It's pretty pathetic, really.

 

Is TLJ ineligible for that very reason or can it still be nominated for the Golden Globes in 2019?  I'm guessing not since TFA wasn't nominated.

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59 minutes ago, someonefun124 said:

 

I haven't heard the score but why would it be disqualified?

 

55 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

 

The score could be disqualified if it doesn't contain enough original material. Ref. Elgar. Not that anything coming from Zimmer could be called original...

 

Jurassic answered the questions correctly. The Academy (body which hands out the oscars) has rules regarding existing music used in films. If they deem that the existing music is too prominent/memorable and dilutes the effect of the original score, the score is dsiqulified. This is only done for the Academy awards, the other award giving bodies like Golden Globes follow their own rules. A high profile example of this is last year when the Academy disqualified Arrival and a decade ago they famously disqualified There Will Be Blood as well. 

 

56 minutes ago, someonefun124 said:

 

Is TLJ ineligible for that very reason or can it still be nominated for the Golden Globes in 2019?  I'm guessing not since TFA wasn't nominated.

 

TLJ remains to be seen (heard). But TFA had a wealth of new material to be considered an original score. Sequel scores are eligible provided they have new material. TFA was safe on that front. If I remember correctly - in the FYC album for the academy they dial out or minimize statements of pre-existing material to just present the new material for consideration.

 

If there is too much old material then the score can be disqualified. But I think that is never a problem with Williams. He has been nominated many sequel scores (Star Wars, Indy, Harry Potter).

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1 hour ago, Richard Penna said:

 

You assume incorrectly.

 

Nice try...

 

3 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said:

 If there is too much old material then the score can be disqualified. But I think that is never a problem with Williams. He has been nominated many sequel scores (Star Wars, Indy, Harry Potter).

 

Could this be a reason why sequels sometimes underuse the themes of the original movie?

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27 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

 

For example sequels to movies scored by JW, but when the sequel is scored by someone else. For example Harry Potter.

 

Honestly not all movies have a chance at an Academy award nomination. So that's not the reason. Like say Desplat for Harry Potter could have been nominated if the film found traction.

 

Different composers basically want to put their own spin on a franchise with new themes. So that's the main reason rather than gunning for Academy awards which honestly many of these films don't have a chance at eitherways.

 

Score nominations mostly go to drama scores for prestige films.

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Congrats to JW, not that we didn't expect him to not get nominated for this. 

 

5 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said:

 

Honestly not all movies have a chance at an Academy award nomination. So that's not the reason. Like say Desplat for Harry Potter could have been nominated if the film found traction.

 

Different composers basically want to put their own spin on a franchise with new themes. So that's the main reason rather than gunning for Academy awards which honestly many of these films don't have a chance at eitherways.

 

Score nominations mostly go to drama scores for prestige films.

 

Yup. It's rare for genre films to get major nominations when it comes to scores, unless the music is super-acclaim, and the film somehow gets nominated for best picture, and even then it's likely to be snubbed. It's a "snobbish" system. 

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