Popular Post TownerFan 4,983 Posted December 11, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2017 Quote Best Original Score - Motion Picture Alexandre Desplat, The Shape of Water Jonny Greenwood, Phantom Thread John Williams, The Post Hans Zimmer, Dunkirk Carter Burwell, Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lists/golden-globe-nominations-2018-full-list-nominees-1063937 toothless, Miguel Andrade, John and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Fantastic news! Congratulations Maestro! Obviously TLJ wasn't eligible due to the late screenings (or the fact nobody has heard it). Still, with only 40 minutes of score, I can't see it winning. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Shape of Water or Phantom Thread will win But congrats to Johnny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Could TLJ be nominated next year instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Mulder 153 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Maybe TLJ is not deserve to be nominated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 797 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Skywanker said: TJF maybe not deserve to be nominated I can forgive a typo, but what is TJF..? EDIT: I see you noticed already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Skywanker said: TLJ maybe not deserve to be nominated It's just the typical thing where these organizations rush to get their nominees out for the headlines, so they finish up before they've even seen / heard everything the year has to offer. It's pretty pathetic, really. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Congrats to the maestro. But I'm rooting for the other Jonny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Johnny Desplat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,650 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 43 minutes ago, Sandor said: I can forgive a typo, but what is TJF..? EDIT: I see you noticed already. The Jedi Final. Yoda confirmed for VIII! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Johnny Zimmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Mulder 153 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Just now, KK said: Johnny Zimmer Hans is John in german language. Same name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,475 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Jay said: Shape of Water or Phantom Thread will win But congrats to Johnny This. Though I have a horrifying feeling that Zimmer might win as well. I hope to God the academy disqualifies him for Dunkirk. Bayesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,679 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Ugh. Two scores that don't deserve to be anywhere near a 'best of' list. (The Post and Dunkirk for those confused) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted December 11, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: Ugh. Two scores that don't deserve to be anywhere near a 'best of' list. (The Post and Dunkirk for those confused) Kind of stupid to say that about The Post when you haven't heard it. Taikomochi, crumbs and Joni Wiljami 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said: This. Though I have a horrifying feeling that Zimmer might win as well. I hope to God the academy disqualifies him for Dunkirk. I haven't heard the score but why would it be disqualified? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 9 minutes ago, someonefun124 said: I haven't heard the score but why would it be disqualified? The score could be disqualified if it doesn't contain enough original material. Ref. Elgar. Not that anything coming from Zimmer could be called original... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 3 hours ago, Jay said: It's just the typical thing where these organizations rush to get their nominees out for the headlines, so they finish up before they've even seen / heard everything the year has to offer. It's pretty pathetic, really. Is TLJ ineligible for that very reason or can it still be nominated for the Golden Globes in 2019? I'm guessing not since TFA wasn't nominated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 The award groups regularly break such rules anyway. Depending on what's hot during the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lord Zimmer 211 Posted December 11, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said: This. Though I have a horrifying feeling that Zimmer might win as well. I hope to God the academy disqualifies him for Dunkirk. 24 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: Ugh. Two scores that don't deserve to be anywhere near a 'best of' list. (The Post and Dunkirk for those confused) 15 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: The score could be disqualified if it doesn't contain enough original material. Ref. Elgar. Not that anything coming from Zimmer could be called original... I can taste the salt from here. Jurassic Shark, Jediwashington and Koray Savas 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,475 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 59 minutes ago, someonefun124 said: I haven't heard the score but why would it be disqualified? 55 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: The score could be disqualified if it doesn't contain enough original material. Ref. Elgar. Not that anything coming from Zimmer could be called original... Jurassic answered the questions correctly. The Academy (body which hands out the oscars) has rules regarding existing music used in films. If they deem that the existing music is too prominent/memorable and dilutes the effect of the original score, the score is dsiqulified. This is only done for the Academy awards, the other award giving bodies like Golden Globes follow their own rules. A high profile example of this is last year when the Academy disqualified Arrival and a decade ago they famously disqualified There Will Be Blood as well. 56 minutes ago, someonefun124 said: Is TLJ ineligible for that very reason or can it still be nominated for the Golden Globes in 2019? I'm guessing not since TFA wasn't nominated. TLJ remains to be seen (heard). But TFA had a wealth of new material to be considered an original score. Sequel scores are eligible provided they have new material. TFA was safe on that front. If I remember correctly - in the FYC album for the academy they dial out or minimize statements of pre-existing material to just present the new material for consideration. If there is too much old material then the score can be disqualified. But I think that is never a problem with Williams. He has been nominated many sequel scores (Star Wars, Indy, Harry Potter). Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,679 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 3 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Kind of stupid to say that about The Post when you haven't heard it. You assume incorrectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Richard Penna said: You assume incorrectly. Nice try... 3 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said: If there is too much old material then the score can be disqualified. But I think that is never a problem with Williams. He has been nominated many sequel scores (Star Wars, Indy, Harry Potter). Could this be a reason why sequels sometimes underuse the themes of the original movie? Richard Penna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,475 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 16 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Nice try... Could this be a reason why sequels sometimes underuse the themes of the original movie? Can you give examples? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, TheUlyssesian said: Can you give examples? For example sequels to movies scored by JW, but when the sequel is scored by someone else. For example Harry Potter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,475 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 27 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: For example sequels to movies scored by JW, but when the sequel is scored by someone else. For example Harry Potter. Honestly not all movies have a chance at an Academy award nomination. So that's not the reason. Like say Desplat for Harry Potter could have been nominated if the film found traction. Different composers basically want to put their own spin on a franchise with new themes. So that's the main reason rather than gunning for Academy awards which honestly many of these films don't have a chance at eitherways. Score nominations mostly go to drama scores for prestige films. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Congrats to JW, not that we didn't expect him to not get nominated for this. 5 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said: Honestly not all movies have a chance at an Academy award nomination. So that's not the reason. Like say Desplat for Harry Potter could have been nominated if the film found traction. Different composers basically want to put their own spin on a franchise with new themes. So that's the main reason rather than gunning for Academy awards which honestly many of these films don't have a chance at eitherways. Score nominations mostly go to drama scores for prestige films. Yup. It's rare for genre films to get major nominations when it comes to scores, unless the music is super-acclaim, and the film somehow gets nominated for best picture, and even then it's likely to be snubbed. It's a "snobbish" system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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