John 2,032 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 It's really not a very good scene. Very clunky all around. Finn's revelation was underwhelming; not that it was some courageous move, but he did have a gun to her head when she turned down the shields, and I find myself agreeing with Phasma that no one would believe Finn's story. Finn's dialogue was pretty bad as well; "squeal like a woop-hog" is just a terrible line, like something straight from the prequels. Not that "Let's go, chrome dome" in the final scene is much better, but still. Then the end with Finn on the ground finding the gun and blowing Phasma off the platform is very anti-climactic. Very glad this scene was cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Edit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 At least this offers proof that Phasma was supposed to die and shouldn't be in IX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 12 minutes ago, someonefun124 said: At least this offers proof that Phasma was supposed to die Was there ever anything to suggest otherwise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Not to me but ask the millions of people who think she survived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,525 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 The argument I saw in the YT comments which made the most sense was that we saw her armor was blaster-proof, why couldn't it also be fireproof? Obviously, that's stretching for an argument a bit and falling into a giant explosion on a ship broken in half, probably resulting in her falling into space wouldn't be a healthy experience even in fireproof armor (with the helmet broken, btw). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 2 hours ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: Did anyone see the Phasma Alternate scene? https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/7/17093912/star-wars-last-jedi-captain-phasma-deleted-scene 8 of the 10 posts immediately before you posted that were discussing it already... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 11 minutes ago, Holko said: The argument I saw in the YT comments which made the most sense was that we saw her armor was blaster-proof, why couldn't it also be fireproof? Obviously, that's stretching for an argument a bit and falling into a giant explosion on a ship broken in half, probably resulting in her falling into space wouldn't be a healthy experience even in fireproof armor (with the helmet broken, btw). We don't need to rationalize it too much. Star Wars isn't hard science fiction, anyway... The point is that from a narrative standpoint: a) Phasma has already lost all credibility; b) were she to return, it would require explaining within the film (this isn't the kind of thing you can relegate to a book) which JJ wouldn't want to undergo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,440 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 This trilogy isn't big on explaining things. They'll bring her back if they feel like it! I hope they don't though, it'd be silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 It would be almost as bad as bringing Darth Maul back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chewy 2,388 Posted March 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 10, 2018 @King Mark For you: EdderzD, crumbs, Cerebral Cortex and 5 others 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,525 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 How did you get the movie already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 50 minutes ago, Chewy said: @King Mark For you: not clean but we hear the cue pretty well. The cue seems unedited after all not sure how you did this, but can you make more videos of the unreleased music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,388 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 21 minutes ago, King Mark said: not clean but we hear the cue pretty well. The cue seems unedited after all not sure how you did this, but can you make more videos of the unreleased music? Yes today! Falstaft and Holko 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 great, the sound is a bit better than "rear channels" from the previous movies and the Prequels can't wait to hear what were missing from the OST and FYC in more detail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,525 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 This is an exceptional case where the lightsaber is the only other sound in the scene, and apparently it isn't present in all channels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chewy 2,388 Posted March 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 10, 2018 I'll be adding all the unreleased cues in chronological order in this playlist (just added 9): Taikomochi, Will, crumbs and 4 others 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 great, keep them coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Wow, Rey’s Lightsaber cue sounds great for a rip. Love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 8 hours ago, Chewy said: I'll be adding all the unreleased cues in chronological order in this playlist (just added 9): You using a 5.1 rip or the full 7.1 rip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chewy 2,388 Posted March 11, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 11, 2018 Added 7 more cues to my playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1z6z6BqRVmLJMY5hP7__AMgP08igTJFG Luke Remembers His Academy And Maintain Our Current Course The Stable The Casino Starts To Shake Anybody Need A Lift Rey and Ren Chat Again The Dark Water Fighting in the Rain 8 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said: You using a 5.1 rip or the full 7.1 rip? 5.1. I know it would be better with a 7.1 rip but I couldn't find one. Falstaft, The Illustrious Jerry and Smaug The Iron 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 7 hours ago, Chewy said: Added 7 more cues to my playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1z6z6BqRVmLJMY5hP7__AMgP08igTJFG Luke Remembers His Academy And Maintain Our Current Course The Stable The Casino Starts To Shake Anybody Need A Lift Rey and Ren Chat Again The Dark Water Fighting in the Rain 5.1. I know it would be better with a 7.1 rip but I couldn't find one. That's good then because it means we can get the music even cleaner once the Blu-Ray is released! The Illustrious Jerry and Chewy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chewy 2,388 Posted March 11, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 11, 2018 Snoke tortures Rey! Taikomochi, Smaug The Iron, Holko and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,525 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Hardware Wars! Falstaft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaft 2,132 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Thanks so much for posting these, Chewie! Lots of little unreleased gems! I'm loving being able to more clearly hear the music during Rey & Kylo Ren's elevator ride. Some great, subtle material there that alludes to Snoke's (admittedly rather amorphous) leitmotif and the newish stuff in his chamber in the next scene. And that tiny snatch of Kylo Ren's theme at :22.... Oh, and that little gesture as they enter the chamber, Bb2-G2-Db3-Dnat2! -- so close to the figure that's heard when they approach the Pit of Carkoon, and another nod, accidental or not, to Uranus from Holst's Planets. [The basically verbatim quote of the Uranus motif that happens in ROTJ before Vader's death scene is assuredly not accidental. Hey, Herrmann did it too...] Sharkissimo and Chewy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew 590 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Any chance of hearing the film version of the Main Title yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Track 1 of the OST, the first 90 seconds. Chewy and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew 590 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 11 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Track 1 of the OST, the first 90 seconds. Fake news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 43 minutes ago, Falstaft said: [The basically verbatim quote of the Uranus motif that happens in ROTJ before Vader's death scene is assuredly not accidental. Hey, Herrmann did it too...] Huh, never noticed that after all these years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 what's the cue when Rose and finn escape the star destroyer after the the Phasma fight? Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 I believe that's 6M3 "I Didn't Give a Crap About This One Either". Oswin Pond, bollemanneke and Chewy 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,388 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, King Mark said: what's the cue when Rose and finn escape the star destroyer after the the Phasma fight? That's the next cue I need to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdderzD 1 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Thanks a lot Chewy! I've been waiting for this march in particular! Edit: I have a feeling this march appears elsewhere but I'm not exactly sure where... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,388 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 16 minutes ago, EdderzD said: Edit: I have a feeling this march appears elsewhere but I'm not exactly sure where... The same march can be heard in TFA as well: EdderzD and Falstaft 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,826 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 10 minutes ago, Chewy said: The same march can be heard in TFA as well: so, is this a First order march? and are these the only 2 instances it appears? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chewy 2,388 Posted March 11, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 11, 2018 Maybe a "Prisoners" march since the only two times it appears are when some prisoners are escorted (Poe in TFA, Finn & Rose in TLJ). filmmusic, Will, Cerebral Cortex and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Maybe it's a temp score carry over march! Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,306 Posted March 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2018 This is a lovely cue, another appearance of Luke's Theme in the score proper, too: artguy360, Smaug The Iron, Cerebral Cortex and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oswin Pond 58 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Oh I love that track, I was so disappointed it wasn't in the FYC album. This is the second best Holdo's theme ! I also love that little Jedi Steps hidden in here followed by a nice version of the Force Theme and even an Emperor theme quote a few seconds later! Smaug The Iron and Chewy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 The start of that cue is stunning! It feels familiar, is there something else in Williams' work (Star Wars or not) that resembles that use of strings/woodwinds? It has such an aching sadness, you really feel Luke's pain. Can't wait to hear Finn & Rose Escape and more of those awesome trumpet flourishes from early in the film (as Resistance ships get destroyed). Oswin Pond and Smaug The Iron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smaug The Iron 513 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 New deleted scene (bad quality) https://youtu.be/M3BCsueG-mQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Smaug The Iron 513 Posted March 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2018 Rey’s third lesson I like the new version of Rey’s theme in the beginning. Holko, Oswin Pond, crumbs and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 That's a really bad scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Holko 9,525 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Maybe if you cut from 0:27 right to about 0:59... Ethnic instrument-heavy parties often melt my heart but this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Both look like alternates, rather than omitted sections of the final cut of the film. Rey becoming dissappointed in Luke in this deleted scene was probably there instead of that wierd cave or possibly even the flashback to Luke's attempt on Ben's life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Holko 9,525 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, Chen G. said: Rey becoming dissappointed in Luke in this deleted scene was probably there instead of that wierd cave or possibly even the flashback to Luke's attempt on Ben's life. Now that I don't believe. Both the cave and the flashback have other scenes leading into them, and this one's basically fully finished so it must have been taken out pretty late. I'd say all of them were in the movie until he realized this is just hammering the same point in, and adding more stupid pointless "humour". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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