Jay 37,287 Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 Yea, it was good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 1 minute ago, crocodile said: I also loved how casual this reveal felt. Loved it. Karol It felt casual, yet profound for Rey. Liked it. There's a lot to like about this film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Yup. That one i expected to become a big cringe moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 4 minutes ago, crocodile said: I also loved how casual this reveal felt. Loved it. It's a great moment in the film It's also information which gave Ren a way to try to manipulate Rey, dragging her down psychologically by trying to convince her that she's worthless thrown-away garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 1 minute ago, publicist said: Yup. That one i expected to become a big cringe moment. It plays like Rey accepting a conclusion she probably already knew in her heart, but didn't want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 The film plays with some nice ideas. Just needed a tighter screenplay, I think. crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, nightscape94 said: It's also information which gave Ren a way to try to manipulate Rey, dragging her down psychologically by trying to convince her that she's worthless thrown-away garbage. He's basically trying to gaslight Rey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, Stefancos said: It plays like Rey accepting a conclusion she probably already knew in her heart, but didn't want to. And, funnily enough, Maz pointed it out to her already in TFA. Sort of. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 It was one of several positive surprises. Sadly the score didn't add much to the scenes in the emperor's room. Hamill, Ridley and Driver came off best here, the others were hamfisted by their less convincingly scripted scenes (the whole subplot with Rose is kinda pointless) though Fisher and Dern (and the other older woman on the rebel ship) gave it a matronly warmth prior SW movies lacked. That was probably very intentional on Johnson's part. Though the setup they operated in was also never ending and cut have been cut in half. (i did a double-take at Adam Driver's digital enhanced torso earlier) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Was it digitally enhanced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 1 minute ago, BloodBoal said: Really liked that image. Looked great. Yea! 1 minute ago, BloodBoal said: Indeed! And don't get me started on the fact that for some reason, Holdo couldn't explain exactly to Poe what her plan was (like Leia does when she wakes up), which would have avoided them all the trouble with Poe rebelling and stuff. It was dumb. They should have found a different way to deal with that. Hey you're right, great point! 1 minute ago, BloodBoal said: And I also feel that if Poe was to standup against a figure of authority on the ship, it would have been far more interesting to have him stand up against Leia than some new character we knew nothing about and didn't care about. Would have made the whole "out with the old, in with the new" theme far more interesting. Bah! Yep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Just now, BloodBoal said: Ugh. Great way to ruin the menace of the villains. Typical Marvel humour! There is enough menace with Ren and Snoke, and honestly, there was never anything menacing about Hux. It also gives an immediate reinforcement to Poe's attitude toward authority figures. Brónach and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 Yep! And I quite enjoy Gleeson hamming it up as Hux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 7 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Was it digitally enhanced? Or there is real magic in Hollywood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Yes, he was fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Just now, Jay said: Yep! And I quite enjoy Gleeson hamming it up as Hux Over the line. Different movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 1 minute ago, publicist said: Or there is real magic in Hollywood. How about a strict work out routine for a few months? Probably a lot cheaper that CGI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Stefancos said: How about a strict work out routine for a few months? Probably a lot cheaper that CGI. CGI is good for unwanted facial hair too. MikeH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 This guy is skin and bones. I never heard that they manage to enlarge your bone structure by 30% just with strict workout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 He looked the same in that topless shot in this film as he did on Girls, a show in which he was topless all the time Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 1 minute ago, publicist said: This guy is skin and bones. I never heard that they manage to enlarge your bone structure by 30% just with strict workout. Actors do it in films all the time. Very intense work out regimes for a couple of months and a protein rich diet. That's how Hugh Jackman got ripped for the Wolverine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 The gay calendar pic says he's toned but a far way from the butch look on this movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Again, a strict work-out regime. No reason whatsoever to suggest it was CGI. Why would it be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Nice post-truth argument, Pub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Anyway, they're setting up a Rey/Ren romance, and their child will thus be the result of the Light Side and the Dark Side: he will be the one to bring balance to the Force! Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 What is truth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 6 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: Anyway, they're setting up a Rey/Ren romance, and their child will thus be the result of the Light Side and the Dark Side: he will be the one to bring balance to the Force! God, I hope not! JJ is doing the next one though, so could be. 6 minutes ago, publicist said: What is truth? It's art! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 51 minutes ago, Stefancos said: It felt casual, yet profound for Rey. Liked it. 48 minutes ago, Stefancos said: It plays like Rey accepting a conclusion she probably already knew in her heart, but didn't want to. It was a mildly effective affirmation for Rey, but it was Kylo's last line (and Driver's delivery of it) in the exchange which brought an all important resonance to the scene. These movies are generally starved of and are desperate for such moments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jost1 105 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 This movie is proving really divisive. I loved it and greatly appreciated that it did something new. Bilbo and Remco 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 13 minutes ago, Quintus said: It was a mildly effective affirmation for Rey, but it was Kylo's last line (and Driver's delivery of it) in the exchange which brought an all important resonance to the scene. These movies are generally starved of and are desperate for such moments. Indeed, as flawed as the film is, it does have some genuine substance to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jost1 105 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 One detail I found kind of fun: Luke saying "Darth Sidious" Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Luke's disdain for the Jedi comes straight out of the Prequels. Jost1 and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jost1 105 Posted December 15, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2017 Well everything Luke says about the Jedi is true basically, they did suck. Bilbo, Brónach and Ollie 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Assholes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Ollie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Hehe, I haven't been this spoiled since I read the AotC novelisation before seeing the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 10 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: It's basically Hamill saying the Prequels sucked! Brilliantly meta! That's your interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 That's everyone's interpretation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Not Rian Johnson's! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Hey BloodBoal, what's the bit at the end you thought was bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 5 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: Rian Johnson isn't everyone, Stiff... Sigh... But his opinion invalidates your statement that it's everyone's interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Oh god... I might really skip this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 It made me wanna buy a lightsaber! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Johnson was just another hired hand to get this out in the shops, I mean theatres. There's no directorial signature or personal style on this movie or the two before for that matter, aesthetically and stylistically they're all essentially exactly the same finished product. It's pretty obvious that Disney's commitee do not permit their employee to sneak in that much of their own modus operandi with these movies. This is nothing new for franchise films of course and I can understand why these things are done in this way, but it just means that a tiny amount of them actually turn out to be something special. Spartcus is a classic film, directed by director for hire Stanley Kubrick. JJ and Rian are not Kubrick, lol. How many legendary movies like that made under those circumstances exist in the world anyway? The Empire Strikes Back is the only one to exist in eight movies in the Star Wars series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Disagree. It feels like the personal, flawed, vision of a single person rather than a film assembled by a committee. Jost1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 I really wish I saw the same movie as you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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