crumbs 14,306 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 It's a superb 12 minutes, I'll give you that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Oh, I'm sure it is. I was disappointed at finding Escape FYC doesn't start right after the Main Title cue and that Main Title and Escape doesn't have the complete escape bit. If it was simpler I might've been able to do a meager edit myself, but anything more complex is beyond my technological reaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 I can’t imagine there is a “complete” edit of Escape that isn’t substantially compromised by edits. I’ve combined the FYC, iso, and OST, and the most organic edit I could make is 9 and a half minutes. The additional material is splotched all over the place like a Jackson Pollock painting. It doesn’t work as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 It's downright impossible. Probably the most difficult edit I've worked on. The best you can do is approximate JW's intentions and just include the parts you like best. Clearly there's a mix of alternates and inserts between the OST and final film, and we only have fragments of everything due to Williams' overzealous microediting of the OST and the film version being hacked to pieces. Taikomochi and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 8 hours ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: I cannot for the life of me find the opening track I want- one with the Main Title and complete Escape film version. The film mix is in the isolated score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 On 10/7/2018 at 9:19 AM, Disco Stu said: So you don’t prefer the album edit of “The Las Jedi.” Anyone agree with me? It's the only thing I've listened to!* *(I've "watched" the iso score, but don't download rips or FYC stuff - if and when they expand it, I'll buy that) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 There's an FYC score for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Fuck Your Crappy score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Demodex said: There's an FYC score for this? Can't tell if you're serious or joking, but yes. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I don't remember if I've heard the FYC tracks or not. I got the film edit so that's all I listen to now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,516 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 If you ask the right people, the lossless FYC is quite a bit better than the iso score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted October 11, 2018 Author Share Posted October 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Demodex said: There's an FYC score for this? http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/28085-the-last-jedi-for-your-consideration-fyc-album-now-available-spoilers-allowed/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,155 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Holko said: If you ask the right people, the lossless FYC is quite a bit better than the iso score. What happens if you ask the wrong people? Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted October 11, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 hour ago, ATXHusker said: What happens if you ask the wrong people? You get it in 128 kbps ogg files. Manakin Skywalker, mstrox, Holko and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Muldoon said: You get it in 128 kbps ogg files. Oh god, I remember 12 year old me could never find the right software to play ripped video game music in that format! Oh god, the memories! Oh go-- Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Just a heads up for anyone who's familiar with my YouTube channel; I had to remove my entire TLJ playlist as well as several videos from Rogue One and Solo as a precaution due to getting 2 copyright strikes within the last few days. I've never gotten even one copyright strike before, but Disney seems to be going balls-out this week on video takedowns, so for anyone else uploading TLJ fan edits, be careful. crumbs, Smaug The Iron, The Illustrious Jerry and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 10 minutes ago, Manakin Skywalker said: Just a heads up for anyone who's familiar with my YouTube channel; I had to remove my entire TLJ playlist as well as several videos from Rogue One and Solo as a precaution due to getting 2 copyright strikes within the last few days. I've never gotten even one copyright strike before, but Disney seems to be going balls-out this week on video takedowns, so for anyone else uploading TLJ fan edits, be careful. I love your YouTube Channel. That sucks. Manakin Skywalker and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 I will be making the playlist public again on January 13th, when the strikes expire. Although it will only contain all of the non-copyrighted material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Update: My account was "suspended" randomly just now. Not terminated yet, just "suspended pending investigation". Well, fuck. At least I made a backup channel years ago. It seems I'll have to use that at least for now. Disney is really going at it this week. First the takedown of that KOTOR remake a few days ago and now this. EDIT: It appears this was done on purpose. I said before I removed all TLJ videos from my channel as a precaution, as those were the only videos affected. Well, they decided to go after a random "Star Wars: Rebels" video I had uploaded. They were literally looking for a way to remove my channel. Assholes. Backup channel, here I come! EDIT 2: Okay now it's been officially terminated. #NeverForget #IWillRebuild Will, Holko, Smaug The Iron and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 This is my new YouTube channel. I'm working on updating it at the moment, and will be re-uploading most of my old videos very soon. It may take a while to duplicate everything though.https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC35nijmGW_6McYTYvpvvZeA Cerebral Cortex and The Illustrious Jerry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Thank you so much for all your efforts, Manikin. I'm sorry for all the hassle on your part. Manakin Skywalker and The Illustrious Jerry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Thank you, and my pleasure. I expected at some point Lucasfilm/Disney/whoever owned the company would go after my channel. I just didn't expect it would be on some random day in the fall while I was in the middle of trying to watch a YouTube video. The biggest hassle of course is reuploading everything from scratch. I'm starting with the original 6 films, in order from TPM to ROTJ. To put it how long it's taking me, my computer literally just finished rendering "Gas Leak" from TPM. That's how far I am. This is gonna take a while... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Henry Sítrónu 494 Posted December 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2018 I'm not actually a massive fan of the SW Main Title. That being said I really enjoyed assembling my personal playlist of TLJ which starts with The Rebellion is Reborn, which then leads to... well, here you go. 😄 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1c7_drpSdTytWvespnxgWYuCLO0AU2stc/view?usp=sharing fommes, Will, Jay and 6 others 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 That's fun! A shame we don't have the TLJ recording to use instead, but that's surprisingly good. Henry Sítrónu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Sítrónu 494 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 5 hours ago, crumbs said: That's fun! A shame we don't have the TLJ recording to use instead, but that's surprisingly good. thanks ha, just gave me thinking of mixing it with the original Main Title from 1977! 😄 EDIT: meh, doesn't sound that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Simone Pedroni's recent performance of "The Rebellion is Reborn" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Ugh, that terrible revised ending again. What was Williams thinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 I might prefer the OST version but terrible is a strong word for the signature edition. Why do you think it's really that bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 I can't explain it in musical terms except to say it just sounds wrong to my ears, like the orchestra screwed up their timings and got the notes wrong for the crescendo, and the conductor is making quick adjustments to correct their timing before it climaxes. Maybe it'd be different if this was the only version of the piece I'd ever heard, but once you're used to the OST version it's hard to get accustomed to the revised version. Plus, it just seems like such a needless, weird change? Can't explain it much more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Can someone post me the analysis of the End Credits suite please? Precisely the new themes used and their origin on the previous tracks of the score. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Falstaft 2,132 Posted August 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Bespin said: Can someone post me the analysis of the End Credits suite please? Precisely the new themes used and their origin on the previous tracks of the score. Thanks. Quickly -- *The statements of Rose's theme come from "Rebellion is Reborn"; *The brief Leia arrangement is new; *The Luke in Exile section comes from "Rebellion is Reborn" (which in turn came from early Ahch To Island cues); *The Battle of Crait stuff comes directly from that cue (parts of which in turn came from the opening Escape cue, or perhaps vice versa -- hard to say) *The Yoda arrangement splices the very beginning and very ending of the original 1980 concert arrangement *The Holdo's resolve stuff comes directly from that cue *The Battle of Crait stuff that follows comes directly from that cue, along with spruced up iteration of TIE Fighter Attack *The Rey's theme Coda is new to the End Credits So, besides little transitions here and there, the only music specifically unique to the TLJ credits are the Leia's Theme snippet for piano and the end statement of Rey's Theme (and possibly the brief iteration of Rose's motif at 2:34) I map out the End Credits for this and the rest of the films in a little more detail in my leitmotif catalogue, if you're curious. Enjoy!: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xJ0Jj-mLfOPUCtcAm_HDGIkFwvHL5gbX/view?usp=drive_open crumbs, Cerebral Cortex, BrotherSound and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 On 8/15/2019 at 5:45 AM, crumbs said: Ugh, that terrible revised ending again. What was Williams thinking? On 8/15/2019 at 5:55 AM, Disco Stu said: I might prefer the OST version but terrible is a strong word for the signature edition. Why do you think it's really that bad? Doesn't strike me in any signficant way, honestly. Granted, a Pedroni performance isn't always the best metric of how successful a concert version is. Did we ever figure out why the End Credits turned out the way they did? We were so spoilt with Force Awakens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2019 I'm praying for a true composed suite for the Rise of Skywalker, it's my one and only expectation going in, that we don't get another tracked suite. The odds are good, I think. SteveMc, crumbs, Holko and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 I don't really care if it's composed or tracked as long as it's good. TLJ credits are a bit underwhelming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Ok so the action music I’m not very familiar with in the End Credits, is from The Battle of Crait. So, we can say this end credits features 4 new themes from TLJ, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,306 Posted August 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2019 6 hours ago, Bespin said: Ok so the action music I’m not very familiar with in the End Credits, is from The Battle of Crait. So, we can say this end credits features 4 new themes from TLJ, right? The album version of the end credits suite features: 1:05 - 1:50: Luke's Theme fanfare 1:51 - 2:40: Rose's Theme (a new recording specific to the end credits) 2:41 - 2:56: Leia's Theme tribute (on piano) 2:57 - 3:43: Luke's Exile Theme (seems to be an excerpt of TRIR) 3:44 - 4:41 (a highlights montage from The Battle of Crait recorded for the end credits, not tracked music -- with fragments of the Resistance March, Rose's Theme, the Rebel Fanfare, Rey's A Theme, interspersed with athematic fanfares) 4:42 - 5:32: Yoda's Theme (a re-recorded excerpt of the existing concert suite from ESB) 5:31 - 6:25: Holdo's Resolve (the film cue with its original ending; the film version seems to have an insert ending) 6:26 - 6:43: Resistance in Peril motif A, closing with Rey's A Theme 6:43 - 6:53: Resistance in Peril motif B 6:54 - 7:25: Here They Come, Again (end credits version, not tracked music) 7:26 - 8:28: Rey's Theme coda (end credits recording of Rey's melody on flute/strings followed by the 'celeste' motif in minor on chimes) So altogether: from TLJ we have 3 new themes and 2 action motifs, fragments of 2 TFA themes (Resistance & Rey) and 3 OT themes (Yoda, Leia & Luke). Everything in the end credits except the excerpt of Luke's Exile Theme from TRIR and Holdo's Resolve (which is just the film cue) was arranged and recorded for the end credits. It's not exactly a Mischief Managed situation where just the opening is new and the rest is an edit of film cues. The Illustrious Jerry, SteveMc, Jay and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted August 17, 2019 Author Share Posted August 17, 2019 Holy shit, Falstsaf and Crumbs, those are some freaking informative posts, mates! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 What is TRIB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted August 17, 2019 Author Share Posted August 17, 2019 The Rebellion is Reborn, abbreviated incorrectly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 The two sections of Battle of Crait music weren’t tracked??? I’ve listened dozens of times and I didn’t realize this. The suite is such a bizarre mishmash I just assumed they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 14 minutes ago, Jay said: The Rebellion is Reborn, abbreviated incorrectly Whoops, fixed. Morning coffee hasn't kicked in! It's worth noting the film version of the end credits jettisons a lot of Williams' arrangements for lengthy passages of tracked music: 1:05 - 1:50: Luke's Theme fanfare 1:51 - 2:40: Rose's Theme (a new recording specific to the end credits) 2:41 - 2:56: Leia's Theme tribute (on piano) 2:57 - 5:23: The Rebellion is Reborn (tracked from the concert suite) 5:23 - 7:29: The Battle of Crait (tracked from the film cue) 7:29 - 8:15: Here They Come, Again (end credits version, not tracked music) 8:15 - 9:18: Rey's Theme coda (end credits recording of Rey's melody on flute/strings followed by the 'celeste' motif in minor on chimes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 So the Crait section of the FYC suite is partially tracked and the sections from the OST suite aren’t at all? Weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 It is a little strange but I'm guessing the credits ended up running longer than Williams allowed when they recorded it, so they had no choice but to extend some passages with other material (it's pretty faithful to what Williams did on the album, when you think about what parts they extended). The same thing happened with TFA's credits; they inserted the complete Resistance March concert suite over Williams' excerpt of the theme. Maybe Williams writes and records these before the duration of the credits has been finalised, so he just approximates the length? All that said, we're assuming the album version is Williams' intended credits suite. I always felt the inclusions of Yoda's Theme and Holdo's Resolve were just because Williams liked those cues but couldn't find a place for them elsewhere on the soundtrack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 hour ago, crumbs said: Resistance in Peril motif A Resistance in Peril motif B What?! What are these? Chewy and MikeH 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 hour ago, crumbs said: :44 - 4:41 (a highlights montage from The Battle of Crait recorded for the end credits, not tracked music -- with fragments of the Resistance March, Rose's Theme, the Rebel Rebel Fanfare, Rey's A Theme, interspersed with athematic fanfares) How do you know all of this was recorded for the end credits and not alternates? 1 hour ago, crumbs said: 5:31 - 6:25: Holdo's Resolve (the film cue with its original ending; the film version seems to have an insert ending) I'm not 100% sure but it sounds to me that the film cue is simply edited or shortened at the end to fit the scene. The version heard in the end credits appears to be the full, unedited version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrbellamy 6,278 Posted August 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2019 18 minutes ago, Demodex said: What?! What are these? They're just action motifs that he used in both the opening and Crait battles. Gotta call them something. Smaug The Iron, The Illustrious Jerry, crumbs and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Thanks for all this! Finally, for a playlist, I wanted to select 2-3 tracks representative of the new material from TLJ. I picked: The Rebellion is Reborn, The Battle of Crait and The Spark. The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Those motifs are the 'The Post/Quidditch' rips that William Ross reminded John to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remco 685 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 But the Post was composed after... it’s funny though, how that score sort of opens with almost the same motif from TLJ. Like how ‘Closing in’ from CMIYC features a very similar chord progression as ‘Across the Stars’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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