Popular Post crocodile 7,984 Posted January 9, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2018 Here. Greatly expanded 2-CD release of rousing Michael Kamen soundtrack for blockbuster Kevin Costner epic! Warner Bros. presents a James G. Robinson presentation, a Morgan Creek production with Kevin Costner as Robin Hood: Prince Of Thieves. Kevin Reynolds directs, Morgan Freeman co-stars as Azeem with Christian Slater, Alan Rickman, Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio, Michael McShane, Nik Brimble playing legendary supporting characters respectively Will Scarlett, the Sheriff of Nottingham, Maid Marian, Friar Tuck, Little John. Michael Kamen scores for massive orchestra in full-blooded action/adventure mode, fashioning his most successful score. Opening fanfare-theme led by trumpets becomes so popular and recognizable that Morgan Creek embraces tune for their company logo in subsequent features. Robin of Lockley returns from captivity in the Holy Lands to his beloved England, only to find his father slain, his lands robbed and his country led not by Richard the Lionheart but by evil Sheriff of Nottingham. Romance with Marian and battles with the Sheriff, aided by Robin’s band of Merry Men from Sherwood Forest all become Kamen’s inspiration. He delivers thematically rich musical tapestry in the best “old-fashioned” symphonic style with strains energetic and exciting, dramatic and intense, lyrical and lovely as corresponding scenes require. Defining wall-to-wall scoring, nearly two hours of music play in film with many lengthy set-pieces and numerous cues joining together one after the other. Action and excitement remain keynotes! Morgan Creek label issues 50 minutes of score highlights plus two songs on hugely successful CD in 1991. Intrada re-masters and expands album to more than twice that length, offering some 110 minutes of music plus another 20-plus minutes of alternates for a total of 130 minutes of Michael Kamen at his most lavish! Previously unreleased highlights abound: Robin’s first dueling encounter with Guy of Gisborne, magnificent music for Robin’s escape from clutches of Sheriff at his Nottingham castle, Merry Men’s ambush of Gisborne, intense music for battle with Celts plus greatly expanded climactic rescue music all deserve spotlight. The Extras section of CD 2 also affords listeners numerous alternates plus different mixes made by composer and engineer Bobby Fernandez after the original May 1991 scoring sessions. Two-track digital session mixes courtesy Warner Bros. and Morgan Creek Music Group. Dramatic package design by Kay Marshall with Joe Sikoryak, informative booklet notes by Frank K. DeWald. Michael Kamen composes, conducts. Intrada Special Collection 2-CD set available while quantities and interest remain! CD 1 Original Score – Part 1 01. Main Title – Prince Of Thieves (2:45) 02. From Chains To Freedom (6:22) 03. Robin Foils Gisborne (6:14) 04. I Will Not Rest (2:34) 05. Meet Marian (1:10) 06. Escape To Sherwood (7:43) 07. The River (0:51) 08. Little John Fight (4:51) 09. Camp Oak (1:43) 10. Robin Escapes (4:37) 11. Stitch (0:46) 12. Village Destructo (Alternate #2) (1:58) 13. Training Sequence (5:08) 14. The Merry Men Continue Raids (1:55) 15. The Merry Men Ambush Gisborne (4:51) 16. Marian At The Waterfall / Camp (9:13) CD 1 Total Time: 63:03 CD 2 Original Score – Part 2 01. Medieval Dance Source (0:58) 02. Baby (3:58) 03. The Plot Thickens (Maid Marian) (7:17) 04. Warning Arrow (1:12) 05. Celt Battle (5:02) 06. Duncan’s Death (5:17) 07. Plans For Rescue (6:50) 08. Mayhem In Town (0:47) 09. Rescue Marian (13:25) 10. Reunited And Finale (2:28) Original Score – Part 2 Time: 47:26The Extras 11. I Will Not Rest (Alternate Mix) (2:35) 12. Robin Gives Marian Ring (Alternate Mix) (2:57) 13. The Band In The Forest (Alternate) (1:31) 14. Village Destructo (Original Without Brass) (0:46) 15. Village Destructo (Alternate #1) (0:46) 16. Training Sequence (Alternate #1) (2:06) 17. Training Sequence (Alternate #2) (2:07) 18. Marian At The Waterfall / Camp (Alternate Mix) (5:31) 19. Mayhem In Town (Alternate) (0:47) 20. Join Robin (Alternate) (1:38) 21. Maid Marian (Album Version) (2:55) Total Extras Time: 23:57 CD 2 Total Time: 71:36 Jay, Fancyarcher, Jonesy and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,672 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Not to be a party pooper, but boy does that first track sound exactly like Band of Brothers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted January 9, 2018 Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 That ostinato is a Michael Kamen in-joke. It's in lots of his scores. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,739 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Where's @BloodBoal these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Is everyone happy now? Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted January 9, 2018 Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 No! What's next? Karol Ollie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,340 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 42 minutes ago, Muldoon said: Where's @BloodBoal these days? Not Andy Price so.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I'm gonna get this along with DS9 Volume 2 end of the month. I've been wanting the complete score for this for YEARS. Here's hoping more Kamen music is released, especially his X-Men score. Demondm810 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwalk713 40 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Me too, good man. My whole year has been made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Starting the year off with a bang! Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,080 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Terrific Release! Now the hard part: ordering and waiting....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 What, no Nigel Holton's Carnosaur? What a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 384 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 2 hours ago, crocodile said: No! What's next? Brazil! Naïve Old Fart and Ricard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 214 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Fantastic release! Late 2017/early 2018 is great so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 That cover looks more like a La-La Land release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,080 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I was expecting LLL to do it. However, I'm surprised the artwork cover is pretty straight forward the same as its original incarnation and no secondary alternate is provided this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,499 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 7 hours ago, Woj said: Is everyone happy now? 7 hours ago, crocodile said: No! What's next? 4 hours ago, Corellian2019 said: Brazil! ...and LICENCE TO KILL, and EDGE OF DARKNESS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 9 hours ago, crocodile said: That ostinato is a Michael Kamen in-joke. It's in lots of his scores. Karol Danger motif! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,647 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I’ll toss this onto my more “urgent” wishlist with CE3K and The Post. Maybe will get it after my tax refund, if it’s nice. Always loved this score. Hope to check it out soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted January 9, 2018 Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 3 hours ago, Bilbo said: Danger motif! Be careful what you wish for! (at 3:35) Karol Naïve Old Fart and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Ha brilliant! I like the Danger Motif. Feels like a film score in joke. Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Ordered this last night! Excited to get it, I have fond memories of the music. That horn passage from the fanfare was always a favorite of the horn section to attempt in high school lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted January 9, 2018 Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 And....it shipped. Karol jwalk713 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orgasm[+]Donor. 75 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 damn wasnt waiting for that one. It feels like years ago when i sent some email to the producer of the original score asking if an expanded was in the work and he replied not for now... damn! jwalk713 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWMike 117 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 What a time to be alive! jwalk713 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted January 10, 2018 Author Share Posted January 10, 2018 Nothing from @BloodBoal? Really? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 A bit from Doug about the sound quality: Quote Quote With these expansions, I often compare samples with the original albums. In some cases, such as this, the detail is improved to the point of being able to hear chair creaks, page flips and other forms of player preparation not noticeable before. It's interesting that it is the case here, because the elements used are two-channel digital mixes that I imagine were also used for the prior release. I guess Intrada has a special sauce. Thank you for the compliment here. I don't know for sure if this has anything to do with the additional clarity - I'm thinking it does - but the 1991 album was mastered with "Q Sound" technology which had some sort of 3D algorithm to "enhance" the audio. I'm not a fan of this kind of audio processing albeit that's strictly my opinion and I recognize others may like all manner of extra processing to do magic tricks with their recordings. In this case, I believe we managed to work with the digital session mixes PRIOR to the additional Q Sound processing. But I speak of a subject in which I have limited knowledge of... so I'm making little more than an assumption that the added "3D sound" in the 1991 album may have manipulated the pure two-channel stereo details. But that could just be hopeful thinking on my part, too. --Doug http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=78592#p78592 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackR 95 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 This is at the very top of my holy grails list. Holy crap. Finally. I've loved movie scores since I was very young and first heard Williams' Superman in the movie on a TV airing. Over the years, as interest has peaked and waned, there are a handful of scores that have reinvigorated my passion for film music. Seeing this film and hearing Kamen's score so prominently was one such moment. I immediately begged my parents to take me to the nearest Musicland (remember those?) and purchased the OST with my hard-earned lawn mowing money. I still have that CD. I can't wait to get this new version in my hands. Of all the unbelievable releases we've gotten lately, the Superman films (The Blue Box), CE3K (LLL), The Goonies (VSD), and now Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves from Intrada. These were the scores that just did it for me at various times in my life. This is terrific! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 30 minutes ago, ZackR said: Of all the unbelievable releases we've gotten lately, the Superman films (The Blue Box) That was a decade ago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 And why haven't these scores been rereleased yet? Why must we be forced to listen to 10 year old restorations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackR 95 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 3 hours ago, Denise Bryson said: That was a decade ago! You're right. That's so hard to believe! 5 minutes ago, Stefancos said: And why haven't these scores been rereleased yet? Why must we be forced to listen to 10 year old restorations? They're perfect as-is. I've played that set countless times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Ah, the Morgan Creek logo theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Mines sitting in my mailbox, waiting for me to get home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Mine too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Holy shoot, so is mine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ollie 1,059 Posted January 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2018 The Music, minus a short bit at the beginning, during Robin's escape from the Dungeon appears to all be present. Doug Fake mentions this in the booklet that the music wasn't included in the session mixes. The music is also presented the way Kamen originally intended and recorded and there were some obvious tracking and looping in the film so there may not be music present on the album where you expected it to be and Doug Fake also makes that pretty clear in the liner notes. There is a wealth of wonderful music we get to hear outside of the film for the first time and this album is a nice tip of the hat to swashbuckling, adventure films of the past. The sound is excellent. Now off to figure out where that short piece that begins the ends credits in the film is on the album. crocodile, Amer and Pieter Boelen 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 And I found it, Track 16, Disc 1 I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted January 13, 2018 Author Share Posted January 13, 2018 My copy is ready to be collected from the post office. That was fast. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 There’s still music I can’t find on the CD yet, so I put the film on to try and figure it out. The scene where Robin rescues Little John’s wife and the scene where Robin saves LJ’s son from the noose, I cant find those on the CD. The first one may be reconstructed from other pieces, or perhaps not included in the sessions. I know Roger Feigelson posted a breakdown of missing music not on the tapes. Quote For those asking about completeness, here's what is missing that could not be found on any source, anywhere:01M04 - And His Merry Men (5:08) DVD: 0:05:57 - 0:10:47Plays from Robin and Azeem's budding friendship through the destruction of Locsley Manor.02M02A - Arrow (1:15) DVD: 0:17:54 - 0:19:06Plays as Robin saves the child in the tree from Gisborne. Sounds very much like a construct.09M01A - "Wild Times" (:38) DVD: 1:19:45 - 1:20:23The film version of the Jeff Lynne pop song from the album.10M00B - "Medieval Dance Source #3" (1:12) DVD: 1:25:03 - 1:26:0912M01 - "Marriage Plans / Robin's Alive" (4:53) DVD: 1:41:18 - 1:46:04Plays from Sheriff's forced marriage proposal to Sheriff telling Marian Robin is Dead, to Robin's survival.13M01C - Hangman's Drums (1:51) DVD: 1:57:00 - 1:57:55Just a repeating drum pattern. Nothing special here.There's also a little bit of music that starts right at the beginning of the end credits and plays for 20 seconds before the Bryan Adams song kicks in. It's definitely dropped in, and frankly the edit is really bad. http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7676&start=15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted January 13, 2018 Author Share Posted January 13, 2018 Ah so there is still 15 minutes missing then? Interesting. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 That's quite a bit! Does that happen often that there's a lot of music that seems to have dropped off of the Earth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Well quite a few scores from the 90’s were missing, damaged or had parts missing. Die Hard, Hook and Batman were 3 main examples. Perhaps the missing music in question wasn’t composed by Kamen or added late in post production / missing. I’m sure Intrada looked as thoroughly as they could. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted January 13, 2018 Author Share Posted January 13, 2018 Is it all completely different material or is it possible some if this material could have been created editorially? I can't remember anything from the film so can't comment. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Well the missing music in cue # 2 is original music. It starts after Robin and co emerge from the underground on to the Main Street and ends just before Robin arrives home. However, Robin Foils Gisborne contains the music used where Robin’s father confronts the Sheriff. The two “cues” I mentioned, the first one may be constructed but I can’t tell if the second is or not. But Roger doesn’t mention those as missing so perhaps they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 So how is everyone liking the new set? How are the liner notes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 It's great! If a tad long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwalk713 40 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 It's marvelous! The newly-released cues are wonderful, and we're able to hear great variety and thematic development previously confined to the film. The liner notes are good, but I would love to read a more extensive write-up of the history and production of the score. In a fascinating twist-- there are moments in the score that I was previously convinced were tracked in, editorial creations-- that are NOT; and vice versa. There are nearly 15 minutes of music that were not available for this release (explained by Doug and others as possibly being the work of other writers/orchestrators, and not part of the archives in which Kamen's work was stored). For my part, this is a loss, as I think they're glorious and accompany some grand moments in the film (notably, Robin emerging in silhouette after the Celt battle with his theme performed by horns and haunting, full, high register strings; and part of the gallows scene: from the moment that Will Scarlett is tied to the explosive barrel, through the hanging of the young lad, Robin's severing of the noose, and the first flaming arrow barrel explosion). Other than that, however, I think it's fantastic. (that was long and specific. sorry!!) Amer and Bellosh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 I wonder if a different producer in charge of the set would have led a grander charge through the WB archives to find those missing cues. Regardless of if Kamen was involved with them or not, they deserve to be here, and are PROBABLY archived SOMEWHERE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwalk713 40 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 I completely agree. The notion that (possibly) several other composers/arrangers helped to finish this score does not tarnish my love of the score. I want it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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