Popular Post Amer 2,071 Posted June 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 6, 2018 51 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: But they also said people would be excited about the wider implications of the release Maybe the wider implications could refer to the current sequels, starting with JURASSIC WORLD? Another wild card theory of mine is it could be if LLL has entered an agreement with Lucasfilm to start with the Indy scores? Thus a newly remastered and expansion of INDIANA JONES/ KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL could be it. A kinda of 'meh' for many of us but the wider implications of the release could mean a proper restoration of the earlier classic three films with no one else but Mike Matessino at the helm? ...Yeah I know -I wish! Henry Sítrónu, Bayesian, Holko and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Perhaps they assume people would be excited about more Don Davis? We need an expansion of A Goofy Movie! 5 hours ago, Batman's Diet Coke said: It feels of the JP musical universe in a way the Giacchino turd never could. It's also way more entertaining. Of course it does, it uses the Williams theme a dozen times! Though I wouldn't be surprised if Davis felt pressured to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,271 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 4 hours ago, Amer said: A kinda of 'meh' for many of us but the wider implications of the release could mean a proper restoration of the earlier classic three films with no one else but Mike Matessino at the helm? I like the theory but it's highly unlikely LLL would ever imply a Williams release, let alone one of the Indy scores, would illicit a 'meh' reaction. Seems like a surefire way to end that collaborative relationship. I do think it's likely the "wider implications" part would indicate the score is part of a franchise of desired scores though, and this particular score might be one of the less coveted scores in that series. I just doubt it's Indy. Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,456 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Superman 3...2...1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 On 6/5/2018 at 8:00 AM, lemoncurd said: reading the newsletter I received from LLL a few hours ago for the second time now and I can't find the "?". http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/18099-the-official-la-la-land-records-thread/&do=findComment&comment=1488659 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,081 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 14 hours ago, Amer said: Maybe the wider implications could refer to the current sequels, starting with JURASSIC WORLD? But they've already released two JP scores. I don't see how JP3 would come with exciting implications. A score from a previously untouched franchise, or from a set of scores previously thought to be unavailable (e.g. because perpetually owned by Varese*, as suggested above) seems like the best fit. *) Though given their history, I expect Varese to handle those themselves, in (more or less) due time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,382 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 The Varese or the Harry Potter possibility would be awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,790 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 21 hours ago, kaseykockroach said: Agreed, it has its highlights! I like his motif for the Spino. You mean Williams carnivore motif? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Sítrónu 494 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 5 hours ago, Jay said: http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/18099-the-official-la-la-land-records-thread/&do=findComment&comment=1488659 Sure, I got that. But I thought it would be revealed in the newsletter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 The newsletter was for their June 5th releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 He clearly thought it just to annoy you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Sítrónu 494 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 oh my... only now seeing the "June 19, 2018".... Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 On 6/5/2018 at 11:06 PM, bollemanneke said: I'd buy Jane Eyre. I stumbled over this expanded bootleg of Jane Eyre on eBay, but I didn't buy it. I thought the original score recordings was lost, so can anybody tell whether this is taken directly from the film, including dialogue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,456 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Don't buy anything that ain't on my website! ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Sítrónu 494 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 oh it's this bootleg line with those hilarious record label names... I bet they are quite known here? I felt for it quite a few times when I was young. I remember phoning one seller at ebay, asking where he got those "marvelous" releases.... He wasn't very talkative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 The only legitiimate release of music from Jane Eyre is the OST album. Any bootlegs are just sourced from ripping the music out of the movie itself and/or re-recordings other orchestras later did of his music. The recording sessions have never leaked, and as far as anyone knows are lost to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Yeah, that's what I thought. Thanks for confirming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Miguel Andrade 1,251 Posted June 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2018 This bootleg is the music from the album, plus the suite from Pops Britannia, one track from a Charles Gerhardt Reader's Digest recordings (released on a Varese Sarabande compilation) and music from whatever sources they decided to use for the period music tracks. I was sent a CD-R of this years ago, and listened to it once. Can't recall if there was anything ripped from the film, but I believe the creator of this program edited the album tracks probably to match the film order/edits. Also, I believe that some of the "period music" tracks actually come from Pops Britannia, but might be wrong... I might check this one tomorrow just out of curiosity -- since Lalaland's release, that has been the only way I listen to this score. Jurassic Shark, Taikomochi and Yavar Moradi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,382 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 1 hour ago, lemoncurd said: I felt for it quite a few times when I was young. I hate bootlegs and especially this bootleg line! Henry Sítrónu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,456 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 You may laugh but trust my discography, it's 99,9 % bootleg free. You listen to Bespin, you live longer, Doc. jones! filmmusic and Holko 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 21 hours ago, Brundlefly said: I hate bootlegs and especially this bootleg line! This bootleg line is great. I partook multiple times in my early collecting years. It was a great way to obtain expansions before internet sharing was widely open and available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Sítrónu 494 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Richard Penna 3,617 Posted June 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2018 Jane Plays The Piano A Little Bit. Nice, imaginative track name there. Better than The Piano Scene I suppose. crumbs, Arpy and bollemanneke 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,308 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 So does that bootleg sound goodor just a little bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marian Schedenig 8,081 Posted June 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2018 8 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: So does that bootleg sound goodor just a little bit? Goodor has no sound. Goodor needs no sound. The Illustrious Jerry, mstrox, bollemanneke and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 "Coach Runaway and Across the Moors" the precursor to the love theme from Attack of the Clones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 8 hours ago, Richard Penna said: Jane Plays The Piano A Little Bit. Nice, imaginative track name there. Better than The Piano Scene I suppose. While that must have been invented by the bootleg compiler Johnny has been known to come up with some rather matter-of-fact track titles. And is this year going to be one for the (history) books? Has anything momentous been released yet JW-wise by LLL? I don't count Superman IV momentous btw. Or is every one of these purported releases going to be in the last quarter of the year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 I guess we'll just get another rerelease of the Jane Eyre LP program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,081 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 4 hours ago, Incanus said: And is this year going to be one for the (history) books? Has anything momentous been released yet JW-wise by LLL? I don't count Superman IV momentous btw. Or is every one of these purported releases going to be in the last quarter of the year? Has there ever been a year in the books *without* a significant Williams release before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,308 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 I think the key is to accept that nothing remotely exciting will happen until at least September. This is why such statements annoy me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 49 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: Has there ever been a year in the books *without* a significant Williams release before? Actually we have been rather spoilt with multiple JW releases every year for quite a while now even in those years when the Maestro isn't releasing new score. But I am saving my pennies and hope for something equally as momentous as last year's E.T. and Close Encounters or the JP Collection in 2016. John Williams+Mike Matessino+LaLa-Land is a winning combination. Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,308 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Excuse me, buw how was ET and CE3K big? I'm not familiar with CE3K, but ET was basically released in its entirety already, right? All we have now is, as it should be, of course, one album that contains everything. But compared to TLW, ET wasn't that special... was it? Brundlefly and Taikomochi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bespin 8,456 Posted June 9, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2018 HEY E.T. 2017 WAS BIG. It was not so much about the "content", but the "quality" of the mix (and of course, a little bit too for the reissue of the original album -AT LAST!-). Anyway, every new Mike Matessino release IS BIG! Go to his webpage, and try to buy every JW releases he was involved in. That's the only thing to do!!! DO IT! http://www.mikematessino.com/projects/ Holko, bollemanneke and KittBash 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 It's a trap! Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,081 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 34 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: Excuse me, buw how was ET and CE3K big? I'm not familiar with CE3K, but ET was basically released in its entirety already, right? All we have now is, as it should be, of course, one album that contains everything. But compared to TLW, ET wasn't that special... was it? ET was never complete, and the most complete version until the new release had the worst sound. Also, both are absolute top tier scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,271 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Why all this talk about Jane Eyre? Both the sheet music and session tapes no longer exist, so don't waste your time hoping for an expansion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,308 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 42 minutes ago, Bespin said: HEY E.T. 2017 WAS BIG. It was not so much about the "content", but the "quality" of the mix (and of course, a little bit too for the reissue of the original album -AT LAST!-). Anyway, every new Mike Matessino release IS BIG! Go to his webpage, and try to buy every JW releases he was involved in. That's the only thing to do!!! DO IT! http://www.mikematessino.com/projects/ I will, after he has tackled Hook. Also, regarding Jane Eyre, who says the sessions tapes don't exist anymore? I thought they were lost, so couldn't they still be found? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 I just found them in my socks drawer. Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,308 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Hand them over, otherwise you're rejecting God! JANE!!!!!! Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,271 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 39 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: I will, after he has tackled Hook. Also, regarding Jane Eyre, who says the sessions tapes don't exist anymore? I thought they were lost, so couldn't they still be found? He won't tackle Hook until: a) the person who stole the Ultimate War session tapes returns them to Sony b) Sony change their mind and allow bootlegs to be used as a source for an official score release c) a formerly unknown new source of the session tapes surfaces Forget about B. Who knows about A. If C were possible, we would know by now (as LLL would've searched for them for the 2012 release). Perhaps, under the cover of anonymity, whoever possesses those tapes might be willing to lend them to LLL so they can be scanned. I won't hold my breath though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,308 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 But wouldn't that imply that someone illegally owns the tapes? Would LLL eve be able/allowed to negotiate with someone who's technically a thief? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Miguel Andrade 1,251 Posted June 9, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2018 On 07/06/2018 at 8:58 PM, Jurassic Shark said: I stumbled over this expanded bootleg of Jane Eyre on eBay, but I didn't buy it. I thought the original score recordings was lost, so can anybody tell whether this is taken directly from the film, including dialogue? Just went through the bootleg and all the music (with one exception) can be obtained legally by getting the original soundtrack (currently on Lalaland), Pops Britannia (Boston Pops/Williams), one of the Silva Screen compilations featuring their own transcription of three pieces from Jane Eyre and "The Prince and the Pauper" (National Philharmonic/Gerhardt) on Varese Sarabande (from earlier releases on Reader's Digest). That's just for the first half of the album, that runs for about 65 minutes. The tracks from the several releases are mixed through the 22 track presentation. For example, "Prelude" (track 1) is "Carriage Ride to Thornfied" from the Gerhard recording. "Jane Eyre Suite" (track 2) are the two outer moments of the suite combined from the City of Prague Philharmonic recording on Silva Screen records. Tracks 3 and 4 are played gapless and are the "Overture" from the OST (track 2 on Lalaland's release). This trend goes through all the 22 tracks including some reprised ones. The exception is "Jane Plays the piano a little bit" that I wasn't able to locate its origin. I might even have it on some compilation, but can't pinpoint it. As for the second half of the program, runs for about 25 minutes and I'm betting all comes from commercial releases. Surely "Londonderry Air" and "Greensleeves" (tracks 24 and 25) come from Williams and the Boston Pops' "Pops Britannia". Taikomochi, Jurassic Shark and Yavar Moradi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,308 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 You should put transcription (Silva Screen) between quotation marks. It's not worth that term. Their Carriage Ride to Thornfield sounds like it was written by ear by a seven-year-old. Disgraceful. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 8 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: You should put transcription (Silva Screen) between quotation marks. It's not worth that term. Their Carriage Ride to Thornfield sounds like it was written by ear by a seven-year-old. Disgraceful. Cheapo Silva - couldn't even be bothered to pay for the original arrangements. I feel that's very often the case on their compilations. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,251 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Those recordings are occasionally decent. As for the piano track, just occurred to me that it might be the Dan Redfeld recording on BSX Records. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 15 minutes ago, Miguel Andrade said: Those recordings are occasionally decent. As for the piano track, just occurred to me that it might be the Dan Redfeld recording on BSX Records. Occasionally is indeed the correct word. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,308 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 It's interesting that people get away with arranging JW, but not with arranging Bach. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 1 minute ago, bollemanneke said: It's interesting that people get away with arranging JW, but not with arranging Bach. I'm sure Silva would try to get away with it! bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePetersen 8 Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 I wonder if the "meh" release could be Peter Bernstein's Ewok scores, the wider implication being that La La now has access to the Lucasfilm vaults. That_Bloke and Henry Sítrónu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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