The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Inspired by something Bespin posted in another thread. What is the best compilation or box set for a John Williams beginner? Does it exist? Or do you have your own program/playlist that you would recommend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 The perfect compilation does not exist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted March 4, 2018 Author Share Posted March 4, 2018 On 04/03/2018 at 3:31 PM, Bespin said: The perfect compilation does not exist! Then what would be the closest to perfect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bespin 8,480 Posted March 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 4, 2018 Well, like I wrote in another thread, this 2-CD compilation is maybe STILL the greatest one on the market... but it stops in 1999... So I suggested a third CD, covering 2001 to 2017 (themes/concert suites to stay in the same idea): 01 Sound the Bells! 02 Hedwig's Theme from HP & The Sorcerer's Stone 03 Escapades from Catch Me if You Can: 1st movement (Spielberg/Williams III) 04 Across the Stars from AOTC 05 Harry's Wondrous World from HP & The Sorcerer's Stone 06 Battle of Heroes from ROTS 07 Sayuri's Theme & End Credits from Memoirs of a Geisha 08 Dartmoor 1912 from "War Horse" (Spielberg/Williams III) 09 With Malice Toward None (Spielberg/Williams III) 10 The Adventures of Mutt (Spielberg/Williams III) 11 The Duel from Tintin (Spielberg/Williams III) 12 The BFG Suite (Spielberg/Williams III) 13 The Jedi Steps and Finale from The Force Awakens 14 The Rebellion is Reborn (from The Last Jedi) 1977, SteveMc, John and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,490 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 A box with unreleased tracks -- like a Williams TV box or something. THAT I would buy. As for compilations, I have zero interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Wonder why these compilations should interest us, if they consist of previously released material. I for one already own every single individual JW release. dtw42 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 12 minutes ago, Josh500 said: Wonder why these compilations should interest us, if they consist of previously released material. I for one already own every single individual JW release. Well, as JWFan it is our duty to recommend any good starting point to a wanna-be fan. So we must know what are the best compilations.... they usually are the entry point to someone who wants to discover an artist. Don't say "I for one already own every single individual JW release", rather say "What can I do for all the earth population becomes a JWfan like me". The Illustrious Jerry and SteveMc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Well.... The 3 Spielberg/Williams Collaboration CDs and The Greatest Hits are probably the best place to start, if you're new. Otherwise, I'd just recommend his most famous OST albums, like Star Wars, Jaws, E.T., Indiana Jones, Jurassic Park, Home Alone, and Schindler's List. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 18 hours ago, Josh500 said: Well.... The 3 Spielberg/Williams Collaboration CDs and The Greatest Hits are probably the best place to start, if you're new. I agree. + Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 A JW Star Wars Prequel Trilogy collection with all the music and alternates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,490 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Bespin said: Well, as JWFan it is our duty to recommend any good starting point to a wanna-be fan. So we must know what are the best compilations.... they usually are the entry point to someone who wants to discover an artist. Don't say "I for one already own every single individual JW release", rather say "What can I do for all the earth population becomes a JWfan like me". Well, it's not like there's a shortage of JW compilations to choose from already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Bespin said: I agree. + And this! Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,155 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 My ultimate box set would be in the style of the FSM Superman box set, but for the Star Wars trilogy of trilogies. I haven't done the math, but I'm guessing it would be five or six, 4-disc butterfly cases so 20 - 24 disc set. Of course a proper presentation and remastering done be Mike Matessino would be ideal! Top it off with a detailed booklet with informative liner notes that we've grown accustomed to. Then a close 2nd and 3rd would be similar to above but for Indiana Jones and Harry Potter 1-3. The Illustrious Jerry and Holko 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,825 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Thor said: A box with unreleased tracks -- like a Williams TV box or something. Yes, a TV box. Or a box "John Williams - The Early years" including all of his unreleased film scores! 2 hours ago, Bespin said: Well, as JWFan it is our duty to recommend any good starting point to a wanna-be fan. So we must know what are the best compilations.... they usually are the entry point to someone who wants to discover an artist. Don't say "I for one already own every single individual JW release", rather say "What can I do for all the earth population becomes a JWfan like me". well, the thread title or post didn't ask what is a dream compilation to get people aquainted with Williams. If that was the goal, it should have been more specific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 The ideal John Williams box set would be a collection of every minute of every score he has ever composed. filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 E.t Star Wars Hedwig's theme Raiders March Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 42 minutes ago, JohnSolo said: The ideal John Williams box set would be a collection of every minute of every score he has ever composed. That'd be like a gigantic 200-CD boxset, costing around 4,000 Euros. You'd need a forklift just to carry it around. I think I'd actually buy that. It'd be a Collectors Item. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 40 minutes ago, JohnSolo said: The ideal John Williams box set would be a collection of every minute of every score he has ever composed. exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted March 5, 2018 Author Share Posted March 5, 2018 Thanks for the recommendations! Anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 8 hours ago, Bespin said: Well, like I wrote in another thread, this 2-CD compilation is maybe STILL the greatest one on the market... but it stops in 1999... So I suggested a third CD, covering 2001 to 2017 (themes/concert suites to stay in the same idea): 01 Sound the Bells! 02 Hedwig's Theme from HP & The Sorcerer's Stone 03 Escapades from Catch Me if You Can: 1st movement (Spielberg/Williams III) 04 Across the Stars from AOTC 05 Harry's Wondrous World from HP & The Sorcerer's Stone 06 Battle of Heroes from ROTS 07 Sayuri's Theme & End Credits from Memoirs of a Geisha 08 Dartmoor 1912 from "War Horse" (Spielberg/Williams III) 09 With Malice Toward None (Spielberg/Williams III) 10 The Adventures of Mutt (Spielberg/Williams III) 11 The Duel from Tintin (Spielberg/Williams III) 12 The BFG Suite (Spielberg/Williams III) 13 The Jedi Steps and Finale from The Force Awakens 14 The Rebellion is Reborn (from The Last Jedi) No love for HP II & III? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 654 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 10 hours ago, Thor said: A box with unreleased tracks -- like a Williams TV box or something. THAT I would buy. As for compilations, I have zero interest. Why bother commenting here, then? Is it THAT important to you for us to know you don't care? 5 hours ago, Jerry said: Heidi ho, I guess no one has any real ideas save Bespin, eh? I compiled a 15-disc compilation for myself a few years ago and had trouble cutting it down to size. Asking for the contents of three discs of Williams music is like asking somebody to run into a burning animal shelter and only save a couple of puppies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,490 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Bryant Burnette said: Why bother commenting here, then? Is it THAT important to you for us to know you don't care? Because you asked "What would be the ultimate John Williams box set?". My ultimate box set would be a box of unreleased TV tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 654 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 That's THE ultimate way to represent the works of John Williams in a box-set format? Is that a thing you honestly think? For the record, I'd buy a box set of unreleased Williams television work. Maybe someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,490 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 24 minutes ago, Bryant Burnette said: That's THE ultimate way to represent the works of John Williams in a box-set format? Is that a thing you honestly think? Ultimate for me, yes. In terms of a representative compilation of his work, there is already a large amount to choose from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 654 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Ultimate for you, certainly. That's not what this thread is about; this thread (as I understand it) is asking, if you had about three hours of runtime in which to give the world your idea of what John Williams' music is all about, what would you put within that three(ish) hours. I can understand you not having any interest in that as an idea, but I can't quite understand why you think we need to know that you don't have any interest in it. Here's my setlist: 1. Main Title and Overture (Heidi) 2. The Cowboys Overture 3. Main Title (Jaws) 4. Main Title (Star Wars) 5. Princess Leia's Theme (Star Wars) 6. Resolution & End Title (Close Encounters of the Third Kind) 7. Theme from Superman 8. Main Title & Storm Sequence (Dracula) 9. March from 1941 10. Yoda's Theme (The Empire Strikes Back) 11. The Imperial March (The Empire Strikes Back) 12. The Raiders March (Raiders of the Lost Ark) 13. Flying (E.T.) 14. Olympic Fanfare and Theme 15. The River 16. The Mission Theme (NBC Nightly News) 17. Liberty Fanfare 18. The Dance of the Witches (The Witches of Eastwick) 19. Exsultate Justi (Empire of the Sun) 20. Cadillac of the Skies (Empire of the Sun) 21. A Second Chance (The Accidental Tourist) 22. Born on the fourth of July 23. Presumed Innocent 24. Home Alone Main Title 25. Theme from JFK 26. End Credits (Far and Away) 27. Theme from Jurassic Park 28. Theme from Schindler's List 29. Theme from Sabrina 30. The 1960s: The Turbulent Years (Nixon) 31. Seven Years In Tibet 32. Dry Your Tears, Afrika (Amistad) 33. Hymn to the Fallen (Saving Private Ryan) 34. Duel of the Fates (The Phantom Menace) 35. Where Dreams Are Born (A.I.) 36. Hedwig's Theme (Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone) 37. Across the Stars (Attack of the Clones) 38. Catch Me If You Can 39. Sayuri's Theme (Memoirs of a Geisha) 40. The Jedi Steps and Finale (The Force Awakens) Brutal. Smeltington and The Illustrious Jerry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,490 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, Bryant Burnette said: Ultimate for you, certainly. That's not what this thread is about; this thread (as I understand it) is asking, if you had about three hours of runtime in which to give the world your idea of what John Williams' music is all about, what would you put within that three(ish) hours. Well, that wasn't easy to glean from your first post. I'm not a mind reader. I interpreted it as what our own ultimate JW box would be. But thanks for clarifying. If I were to make such a recommendation to the world, I would first of all refer to the myriad of the existing compilations out there. If I were to produce a representative list myself, I would probably separate it in different categories -- the religious sound, the experimental, the jazz, the Americana etc. and then choose a few representative tracks within each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 654 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 To be clear, I didn't start the thread. I'm just reading it! It's entirely possible I got the intent wrong, but I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,512 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Bryant Burnette said: To be clear, I didn't start the thread. I'm just reading it! Yeah, and I didn't create the universe, I merely explain it My ultimate box-set would be a 60-disc Blu Ray of complete versions of every JW score, plus all his jizz albums, plus an extra disc of all his songs. They will all be in advance resolution stereo, and in DTS-MA 7.1, remixed by either Elliott Scheiner, or Steven Wilson. Well, I can dream, can't I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,490 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, Richard said: plus all his jizz albums Ha, ha....funniest typo ever! dtw42 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,512 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Oh, dear. Thank you, Thor, my friend! Of course, that should say "jazz albums" Damn texting and driving, again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,516 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 He did compose a few jizz pieces... http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jizz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 10 hours ago, JTWfan77 said: No love for HP II & III? Ask this to JW himself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt S. 493 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 The Music of America 3-disc set is probably one of the most representative compilations out there. It has everything; film music, concert music, occasional pieces, celebratory pieces, and Olympic themes. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 17 minutes ago, Matt S. said: The Music of America 3-disc set is probably one of the most representative compilations out there. It has everything; film music, concert music, occasional pieces, celebratory pieces, and Olympic themes. Also a favorite of mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 13 hours ago, Bespin said: Ask this to JW himself! Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 17 hours ago, Richard said: Damn texting and driving, again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,512 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Not really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted March 6, 2018 Author Share Posted March 6, 2018 I should have known there's no perfect answer to this. I guess it comes down to owning every score Williams has ever written. He truly gives every project his best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,512 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 "gave"?! Jerry, do you know something we don't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted March 6, 2018 Author Share Posted March 6, 2018 Fixed the typo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,512 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Well of course you know him; he's you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SteveMc 2,674 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 On 3/4/2018 at 2:35 PM, Bespin said: Well, like I wrote in another thread, this 2-CD compilation is maybe STILL the greatest one on the market... but it stops in 1999... So I suggested a third CD, covering 2001 to 2017 (themes/concert suites to stay in the same idea): 01 Sound the Bells! 02 Hedwig's Theme from HP & The Sorcerer's Stone 03 Escapades from Catch Me if You Can: 1st movement (Spielberg/Williams III) 04 Across the Stars from AOTC 05 Harry's Wondrous World from HP & The Sorcerer's Stone 06 Battle of Heroes from ROTS 07 Sayuri's Theme & End Credits from Memoirs of a Geisha 08 Dartmoor 1912 from "War Horse" (Spielberg/Williams III) 09 With Malice Toward None (Spielberg/Williams III) 10 The Adventures of Mutt (Spielberg/Williams III) 11 The Duel from Tintin (Spielberg/Williams III) 12 The BFG Suite (Spielberg/Williams III) 13 The Jedi Steps and Finale from The Force Awakens 14 The Rebellion is Reborn (from The Last Jedi) Add The Book Thief, and it would be perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 On 2018-03-07 at 12:16 AM, Steve McQueen said: Add The Book Thief, and it would be perfect. The fact is nobody plays The book thief in concert, well I think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Disc 1: The Best of John Williams 1. Theme from Jurassic Park 2. Journey to the Island 3. Welcome to Jurassic Park 4. The History Lesson 5. Jurassic Park Gate 6. Revealing the Plans 7. Monster on the Loose 8. Theme from Jurassic Park (again) I wanted as much variety as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,387 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Rescuing Sarah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 The joke I was going for was that all of the those cues feature the JP theme in some form, which would drive the listener crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,387 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Oh I guess I missed the joke, sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 No, the problem is that I'm terrible at contributing funny posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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