Faleel 5,326 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I believe 96kbps is around the same bitrate most DVD special features audio is in, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,268 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 DVD special feature audio tends to be 24bit / 48khz / 192kbps DD. Dolby Digital, DTS, AAC, and mp3 are all completely different compression techniques so 96kbps of each format will all sound different than each other bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,624 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, crocodile said: Precisely. And as we all know, Star Wars sells. And even a small label like LLL would tell you that Williams sells. Just put it in a nice box and market it properly. Karol good lord weve been saying this since 1999 when TPM came out and nothing has happened ywet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,287 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I don't really get how this Movies Anywhere thing works but isn't it possible that a different digital distributor might also have the score only track at some point, maybe in higher quality? I'd be curious to know the audio bitrate of the other special features listed on the MA website -- might give an indication of whether this is just how they encode all their audio or if this is unique to the score track. If the latter, it's possible this was a condition of releasing the iso (as earlier speculated). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,978 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, King Mark said: good lord weve been saying this since 1999 when TPM came out Yes, but Lucasfilm wasn't interested in expanding film music whereas Disney is. Remember they do their Legacy series and Intrada was also did quite a few. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,287 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 You'd think Disney Records would be chomping at the bit to release the scores properly. This series of scores would have to be one of their marquee properties, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,326 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jay said: DVD special feature audio tends to be 24bit / 48khz / 192kbps DD. Dolby Digital, DTS, AAC, and mp3 are all completely different compression techniques so 96kbps of each format will all sound different than each other I must have been remembering the bitrate of the TFA digital extras Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Amer 2,078 Posted March 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2018 Get ready for an Ultimate Star Wars: The Last Jedi 2CD set from Sony Classical very soon😂 Pieter Boelen, Unlucky Bastard and A. A. Ron 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,978 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, crumbs said: You'd think Disney Records would be chomping at the bit to release the scores properly. This series of scores would have to be one of their marquee properties, no? I bet they would rather release it as a trilogy. Karol bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,010 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 The OT OSTs are being re-released on CD in May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,624 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, Amer said: Get ready for an Ultimate Star Wars: The Last Jedi 2CD set from Sony Classical very soon😂 nah, they'll release a box set with the 1997 OT, and the OSTs of the Prequels and sequels why would anything be different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,436 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 15 minutes ago, crumbs said: I don't really get how this Movies Anywhere thing works but isn't it possible that a different digital distributor might also have the score only track at some point, maybe in higher quality? Yeah, and is it possible to stream Movies Anywhere to different devices? Maybe there's a chance they serve up a video stream with different specs depending how/where you're watching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,287 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Smeltington said: Yeah, and is it possible to stream Movies Anywhere to different devices? Maybe there's a chance they serve up a video stream with different specs depending how/where you're watching? That was my thinking. It's pretty normal for a lot of these streaming sites to offer different quality streams in their server, depending on internet speed/your package, etc. But from all accounts it's just an audio file you download or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,268 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I think that's the case actually. It's possible the 96khz AAC version is just what you get when you play it on a computer. On another device like a Roku box it might play it in standard Dolby Digital, maybe even in 5.1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,436 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I'm thinking of Amazon Prime, where if I rent a movie in HD, I can't actually watch it in HD on my computer. Just my Roku. What kind of sense this makes, is beyond me (some legal bullshit, I'm sure). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,268 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Right, exactly. Since if you play the movie on a computer you only get SD video, it stands to reason that the audio might also get an upgrade on an HD device, too! crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,287 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 9 minutes ago, Jay said: Right, exactly. Since if you play the movie on a computer you only get SD video, it stands to reason that the audio might also get an upgrade on an HD device, too! I don't have this service (and I don't live in America) but if it's anything like other on-demand services available here then you get different audio streams depending on your playout device. So there's hope that this is just a heavily compressed PC stream and other services might have better quality audio down the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 hour ago, crocodile said: To be perfectly honest, I'd rather hear the high quality sessions for the first time on a properly assembled complete album anyway. Karol "Properly assembled"... yup! I'd rather wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx99 1,740 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Here's the warning I received from Amazon when I purchased TLJ... My computer is playing the video in SD, so it's clearly not HDCP-compliant, and the audio is stereo/96kbps AAC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,287 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Ah hah! Things might not be so grim after all... Wonder what happens if the app is connected to a PS4 with 7.1 receiver or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx99 1,740 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, crumbs said: Ah hah! Things might not be so grim after all... Wonder what happens if the app is connected to a PS4 with 7.1 receiver or something? My Roku is outputting 1080 but I can't gauge the audio since I simply have it connected directly to my TV, sans receiver or home theater set-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, thx99 said: Here's the warning I received from Amazon when I purchased TLJ... My computer is playing the video in SD, so it's clearly not HDCP-compliant, and the audio is stereo/96kbps AAC. I detest HDCP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,287 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 My receiver tells you the bitrate, encoding, etc. of the audio stream. I can't test it though, not in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,268 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I am 99.99999999% sure the 96kbps AAC version ONLY exists as what they give to people on non-HDCP compliant devices who also get the SD version of the film itself. Anyone playing this on a normal HDCP-compliant device like an Amazon Fire box/stick, Roku box/stick, Apple TV, smart TV, PS4, XBoxOne, etc etc etc are likely getting this feature in the same normal quality as any other movie they'd stream on that platform. And yea, I have an Onkyo receiver and it can actually display on my TV the bitrate and format of any audio it is playing crumbs and Holko 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 3 hours ago, bollemanneke said: Out of curiosity... I only know one isolated score, Sense and Sensibility, and that's full of totally abnormal volume fluctuations as they appear in the dialogue-version of the film, and they make for bad listening. Is that normal for isolated scores? Or do we also have tracks that sound okay? 4 hours ago, King Mark said: This is the most important thing Star Wars score related that has happened in JWFan history. We were dreaming this of the Prequels and TFA and pretty much any JW score The "Superman: The Movie" bluray has the isolated score in Dolby Digital-Plus 5.1. It sounds good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 57 minutes ago, Amer said: Get ready for an Ultimate Star Wars: The Last Jedi 2CD set from Sony Classical very soon😂 And the requisite whinging because of the edits, tracked music, etc. Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,736 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Nevermind, I was beat to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,372 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Good news! But 96kbps aac sucks.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,736 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 hour ago, mstrox said: MoviesAnywhere is a nice aggregate - all of the big "digital copy" retailers, including Disney, iTunes, Amazon, Ultraviolet, let you link your accounts there. Then, not only are all of your digital copies available on that page, but the sites communicate with one another. So everything you've bought on Amazon is also available on Ultraviolet, iTunes, etc, and everything you've bought on iTunes is available to stream on Amazon, etc. It's really nice, since a lot of streaming devices don't have iTunes/Apple apps, that everything can be available everywhere. I still haven't bought Rogue One ("new release" prices are nuts, and especially Disney new release prices), but this is enough to make me spring the money for the Blu+Digital early, most likely. UltraViolet isn't a retailer. It's a competitor for MoviesAnywhere. MoviesAnywhere lets you watch Disney, Fox, Sony, Universal and Warner Bros titles on Amazon, iTunes, Google, Vudu and FandangoNOW. UltraViolet has older titles for most of the major studios except Disney, but also for studios that aren't partnered with MoviesAnywhere, namely Paramount, Lionsgate and MGM. At this point, the only UltraViolet retailers are Vudu and FandangoNOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bespin 8,472 Posted March 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2018 Oh, you almost got me!!! For seconds I thought this news was super exciting, then I realized I hated the movie! A. A. Ron, 1977 and Jurassic Shark 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,268 Posted March 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2018 It doesn't matter if the movie is good or bad; The MUSIC Is great, and now we get all of it! Well, all that you can hear in the final cut, not all recorded 1977, rpvee and Taikomochi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 58 minutes ago, rough cut said: The "Superman: The Movie" bluray has the isolated score in Dolby Digital-Plus 5.1. It sounds good. I still love that isolated score. And the ones included on the Alien films are amazing! JackPat and 1977 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,637 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Well, true. Ultraviolet movies are viewed through Vudu and Fandango, and Vudu and Fandango both aggregate through MoviesAnywhere. EDIT - It looks like the Hunger Games movies didn't populate and they're Lion's Gate. Every other movie from the 100 on my Vudu account popped over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,372 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 @Jay Have you bought it? Can it be ripped easily or is there crappy DRM/protections? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bespin 8,472 Posted March 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2018 "Don't buy the Blu-Ray, com'on you hated the movie!!!" "Buy it, buy it, it may include an isolated score!!!" 1977, Biodome, Unlucky Bastard and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,268 Posted March 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, Chewy said: @Jay Have you bought it? Can it be ripped easily or is there crappy DRM/protections? I am contemplating buying it later on, just to play it through my Amazon Fire box hooked up to my Onkyo receiver, so it can tell me what format/bitrate it is playing. Unfortunately, I have no idea in the world how I would rip/record it off my receiver or anything. I mean, I suppose I could hook up old fashioned RCA cables to the Line Out on the back of it and record that with a computer, but I hate to use the analog hole to record something originating in perfect digital quality. I'd rather wait for some smart guy on the internet to figure out how to rip the digital stream directly with no quality loss. Holko, bollemanneke and Chewy 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rolltide1017 43 Posted March 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, mstrox said: Well, true. Ultraviolet movies are viewed through Vudu and Fandango, and Vudu and Fandango both aggregate through MoviesAnywhere. EDIT - It looks like the Hunger Games movies didn't populate and they're Lion's Gate. Every other movie from my Vudu account popped over. Yes, Lions Gate will not port over because they do not support MoviesAnywhere right now. Paramount and MGM also don't support MoviesAnywhere. Only Disney, Fox, WB, Universal and Sony movies support MA. I love MoviesAnywhere because it finally did the one thing Ultraviolet could never do, get iTunes, Google and Amazon on board. Anyway, I bought the UHD version of TLJ from Vudu so I also have it in my MA account. I can use the MA app on the Apple TV to play the isolated score and, when I enable the developer mode HUD, can see the audio bitrate. I'll post it later tonight if someone doesn't beat me to it. Holko, Chewy, Taikomochi and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,268 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,436 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Roll tide roll!!! Bryant Burnette and rolltide1017 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,687 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Well, this is good news about the isolated score for most of you, but I'm not very keen. I've already got one, you see. filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew 590 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 If you are ripping audio from a computer, I would recommend using Audacity. It can record straight from your computer's audio output onto a stereo track that can be saved as an audio file. I would advise saving the files as AIFF files to ensure that there is not double compression loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi 404 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 And for the deleted scenes ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bespin 8,472 Posted March 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2018 19 minutes ago, Drew said: If you are ripping audio from a computer, I would recommend using Audacity. (...) There is an easier way! Cerebral Cortex, The Illustrious Jerry and Smeltington 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,372 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I also believe there is a way to get a higher quality version using a HDCP Certified thing..cause honestly, I don't think it's even possible to sell a movie with a crappy audio like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew 590 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 It gives five options on where to purchase it. Do you guys know if there are bitrate differences between any of these options? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,372 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Would be interesting to know where @Manakin Skywalker bought it, so we know what to not pick 3 hours ago, crumbs said: My receiver tells you the bitrate, encoding, etc. of the audio stream. I can't test it though, not in the US. I believe the US restriction is there because the movie still hasn't come out in other countries yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: Let me get this straight. You can legally buy the complete score for TLJ some place? What more could you want that isn't already released? Audio that doesn’t sound like it was recorded through a tape recorder held up to a radio. Chewy and bollemanneke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,334 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Nick1066 said: Well, this is good news about the isolated score for most of you, but I'm not very keen. I've already got one, you see. Um... Meaning...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,472 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I think he's a guy working "in the business". Maybe it's a famous person! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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