Popular Post TheUlyssesian 2,467 Posted March 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2018 http://www.filmtracks.com/awards/17.html Top Film Score •Beauty and the Beast (Alan Menken) 2nd Place •Bitter Harvest (Benjamin Wallfisch) 4the Place •Murder on the Orient Express (Patrick Doyle) 5th Place •Star Wars: The Last Jedi (John Williams) WINNER •Viceroy's House (A.R. Rahman) 3rd Place Williams also shockingly got 7th Place not for The Post but for Dear Basketball! Top Composer •Patrick Doyle •Michael Giacchino •George Kallis •Benjamin Wallfisch •John Williams WINNER Top Film Cue •Albion: The Enchanted Stallion (George Kallis) "A Wonderful Place of Nature" •Beauty and the Beast (Alan Menken) "Wolves Attack Belle" •Bitter Harvest (Benjamin Wallfisch) "Elegy For Ukraine" •The Boss Baby (Conrad Pope) "Love" •Captain Underpants: The First Epic Movie (Theodore Shapiro) "Saving the Day" •Coco (Michael Giacchino) "Crossing the Marigold Bridge" •A Cure For Wellness (Benjamin Wallfisch) "Actually I'm Feeling Much Better" •Dear Basketball (John Williams) "Dear Basketball" WINNER •The Emoji Movie (Patrick Doyle) "Gene Saves Textopolis" •Honnouji Hotel (Naoki Sato) "Main Theme" •The Last Warrior (George Kallis) "The Battle for the Crystal" •LBJ (Marc Shaiman) "Writing the Speech" •The Mummy (Brian Tyler) "The Mummy End Title Suite" •Murder on the Orient Express (Patrick Doyle) "Orient Express Suite" •The Post (John Williams) "The Presses Roll" •Star Wars: The Last Jedi (John Williams) "The Spark" •Thor: Ragnarok (Mark Mothersbaugh) "Ragnarok Suite" •Tokyo Ghoul (Don Davis) "The Kaneki Metamorphosis" •Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets (A. Desplat) "Medusa" •Viceroy's House (A.R. Rahman) "Swearing In" Thank god Desplat's preposterously overrated The Shape Of Water is not included. JW continues to excel over other composers by leaps and bounds. I personally would nominate him for The Post too - a wondrous little score that works up a storm within the film it was written for. crumbs, Pieter Boelen, Balahkay and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,384 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Terribly conservative list. Practically ALL traditional Hollywood scores. And yes -- THE POST is a million times better than TLJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,467 Posted March 19, 2018 Author Share Posted March 19, 2018 What is so terrible about traditional orchestral scores. I prefer them too honestly over droning soundscapes. bollemanneke and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,384 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Nothing 'terrible' about it. I like several of the titles on the list. But it could do with a bit more versatility and non-Hollywood material. Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,709 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Hopefully this will help to push for a release of 'Basketball'. Edit: Oh, the website Filmtracks. Ok, so that won’t probably help much. Although, still nice. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bryant Burnette 654 Posted March 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2018 42 minutes ago, Thor said: And yes -- THE POST is a million times better than TLJ. No. John, Joni Wiljami, Darth Porkins and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Twice as good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,384 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 41 minutes ago, Bryant Burnette said: No. Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 If The Post is "a million times better" than TLJ, it ought to be damn exciting. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 It is quite exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 24 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: It is quite exciting. Not that exciting though. Apart from 3 pieces that stand out in the film the rest is quite middle of the road JW. 2 hours ago, Thor said: Terribly conservative list. Practically ALL traditional Hollywood scores. And yes -- THE POST is a million times better than TLJ. Nice to see someone making a conservative list for once. Taikomochi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joni Wiljami 1,205 Posted March 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2018 It was an amazing year for this wonderful composer, well deserved!! Sadly this is the only place in this world that cannot see that. SteveMc, Pieter Boelen, Once and 3 others 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Because of its more fractioned nature I think TLJ requires more attentive listening than the other SW scores, but when I do that I find it quite exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 1 minute ago, hornist said: It was an amazing year for this wonderful composer, well deserved!! Sadly this is the only place in this world that cannot see that. Come now Pasi. Don't give up. There are still some JW fans here. JW did have an excellent year in 2017. I enjoyed both The Post and The Last Jedi very much, the latter perhaps more than the former though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 I enjoyed both The Post and The Last Jedi as films and also the scores, but the latter film had a lot of questionable logic and story choices. Looking forward to Spielberg's sequel to the former, titled The Stamp. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: I enjoyed both The Post and The Last Jedi, but the latter had a lot of questionable logic and story choices. Looking forward to Spielberg's sequel to the former, titled The Stamp. I would prefer something like The Stamp and the Mail Man - The Postal Story. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 The Decline and Fall of the Norwegian Postal Service We're currently in the "decline" stage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,617 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Some serious JW fanboysim from Clemmenson here. So many potential composers to award Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: Some serious JW fanboysim from Clemmenson here. So many potential composers to award So when a person chooses the best of the year, his opinion, it is just fanboyism? As far as I understand these awards were given by Clemmensen himself and not some body of voters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post #SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2018 People complaining about someone awarding Williams with something? Only on JWfan! bollemanneke, Obi, John and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Especially on JWFan! Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliburn 72 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 My 2017 list was pretty different https://soundtrackworld.com/2018/01/soundtrack-world-one-year-old/ That is why I love film music, everyone can find something they enjoy, Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Just now, Caliburn said: That is why I love film music, everyone can find something they enjoy, I guess that applies to about everything, not only film music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliburn 72 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 YES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 4 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said: What is so terrible about traditional orchestral scores. I prefer them too honestly over droning soundscapes. As Thor said, there's nothing terrible about it, but some of us appreciate a wide variety of scores and find it utterly tiring and sophomoric when people like Clemmenson or yourself pit them against each other at every turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 I kinda liked Dunkirk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,467 Posted March 19, 2018 Author Share Posted March 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Richard Penna said: Some serious JW fanboysim from Clemmenson here. So many potential composers to award Hardly that when you see Williams hasn't won the top composer award since 2005 I believe. You'd argue Williams might have more wins if CC were a fanboy. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewya 360 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 24 minutes ago, TGP said: As Thor said, there's nothing terrible about it, but some of us appreciate a wide variety of scores and find it utterly tiring and sophomoric when people like Clemmenson or yourself pit them against each other at every turn. Agreed, it is predictable at this point. I can't remember the last time he or any other film music critic gave a none tradtional score or electronic score a high rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew 590 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 I find it amusing that Williams won despite Clemmenson not mentioning The Post at all in his commentary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,800 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Quote John Williams sweeps Filmtracks 2017 awards winning all 3 categories! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheUlyssesian 2,467 Posted March 19, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2018 44 minutes ago, Lewya said: Agreed, it is predictable at this point. I can't remember the last time he or any other film music critic gave a none tradtional score or electronic score a high rating. Not true. He was quite complimentary of the recent Thor Ragnarok and has provided high scores to other electronic scores like Tron Legacy and many Goldsmith scores and has praised electronic elements in Elfman scores. Jurassic Shark, Arpy and Taikomochi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,308 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 What's so great about the Post? Honestly confused here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,384 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Just now, bollemanneke said: What's so great about the Post? Honestly confused here... Where to start? I urge you to check out the discussion thread about the score. I know that I posted my views there, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,308 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 But those threads are long... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 I'll give you one reason right away: The Presses Roll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,800 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 The jazz tracks are all you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,308 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 The Presses Roll is good, nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 The Presses Roll was my favorite track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 It's even better than spring rolls. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Well, it is good to see Williams getting his due from someone. I think Clemmenson is an intelligent fellow. Williams was in great form last year, with Dear Basketball and Markings especially being truly great pieces. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewya 360 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 1 hour ago, TheUlyssesian said: Not true. He was quite complimentary of the recent Thor Ragnarok and has provided high scores to other electronic scores like Tron Legacy and many Goldsmith scores and has praised electronic elements in Elfman scores. It is true. Tron: Legacy was 7 years ago, not really recent - I couldn't remember it and it includes some orchestral backing too. I was talking fully electronic scores, or unconventional orchestral scores, not just an electronic element. Recently meaning from the last 3 to 5 years. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Precisely. Those aren't non traditional scores or electronic scores at all, those are actually quite traditional scores that use electronics in a fairly traditional way. Clemmenson is just a scourge of the film music community, a harmful influence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,833 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 I live for Clemmensen's disdain for Zimmer. Probably my favourite reviewer out there to be honest. He did award The Post 3 stars though which was surprising. Jurassic Shark and TheUlyssesian 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,467 Posted March 19, 2018 Author Share Posted March 19, 2018 15 minutes ago, Alex said: I live for Clemmensen's disdain for Zimmer. Probably my favourite reviewer out there to be honest. He did award The Post 3 stars though which was surprising. His verbal assassination of Zimmer is something to behold. I love it! Also he gave the score for The Post 4 stars and the album 3 stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,232 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 It's such a wildly uninformed and childish disdain though. Everyone loves an entertainingly bitingly critical review every now and then, but there has to be wit and intelligence to it. CC's manner is that of a petulant child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 The Post was good in parts, but nothing special with the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 (It is peculiar, and a tad annoying, how easily he gives Williams scores 5-stars) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Mare you talking to me @kaseykockroach?Because I never gave The Post a five. A three point five is my rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 19 minutes ago, TGP said: It's such a wildly uninformed and childish disdain though. Everyone loves an entertainingly bitingly critical review every now and then, but there has to be wit and intelligence to it. CC's manner is that of a petulant child. How can a dislike in music be "uninformed"? Do I have to read along with the sheet music and count the number of sharps and flats? GTFO Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,467 Posted March 19, 2018 Author Share Posted March 19, 2018 1 hour ago, kaseykockroach said: (It is peculiar, and a tad annoying, how easily he gives Williams scores 5-stars) Which of his 5 star awarded scores do you think NOT deserve 5 stars? Taikomochi and Once 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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