Dr. Rick 1,155 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 3 hours ago, King Mark said: the Star Wars fans of today want it at 128kbps on Spotify on their smart phone The same as the ones who eat Tide Pods and Downy Dipping Dots... Love ya, millennials! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,377 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Seems like there are gonna be special releases for some countries (like TFA and TLJ) with translated covers. German ones: https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07C8ZQM6X/ https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07C8ZPWBX/ https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07BN7X7YR/ https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07BN6QC8N/ https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07BN4T9PY/ https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07BN7YN6Z/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Chewy said: I don't understand. A higher sample rate can improve the sound quality by allowing a wider cutoff for the anti-aliasing filter, and it can somewhat decrease the noise. But I don't understand why anobody would need a sample rate as high as 384kHz at 32-bit. Here's some good answers: https://www.quora.com/What-impact-does-increasing-the-sample-rate-have-on-the-quality-of-audio&ved=2ahUKEwjN1J7GgIPaAhXDJ5oKHSe7D4YQjjgwAHoECAQQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0DwYZVhHqZVa1azORuJx1o phbart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Honestly 24bit/96khz is probably good enough for everything ever, but what are you gonna do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 39 minutes ago, Bespin said: Hey guys, I took a new selfie of me thinking about these new releases! A very quick look at it made me think it was an artificial vagina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 33 minutes ago, Chewy said: Seems like there are gonna be special releases for some countries (like TFA and TLJ) with translated covers. German ones: https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07C8ZQM6X/ https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07C8ZPWBX/ https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07BN7X7YR/ https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07BN6QC8N/ https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07BN4T9PY/ https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07BN7YN6Z/ NOOOOO! I wanted to order them from Amazon DE, the prices in Euros would be okay, and the shipping is free... Not they're gonna list the proper versions as imports with twice the price if at all... Amazon UK has them at 1.3 times the US price plus shipping and taxes. A sincerely huge FUCK YOU to every German who's too lazy to learn at least this much English and demands everything to be handed to them on a silver platter with their shitty translations. I really hope it's just one additional piece of paper they've put in front of the proper cover in the jewel case, and the liner notes(?), poster and discs themselves are unaffected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,377 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 14 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: A higher sample rate can improve the sound quality by allowing a wider cutoff for the anti-aliasing filter, and it can somewhat decrease the noise. But I don't understand why anobody would need a sample rate as high as 384kHz at 32-bit. Here's some good answers: https://www.quora.com/What-impact-does-increasing-the-sample-rate-have-on-the-quality-of-audio&ved=2ahUKEwjN1J7GgIPaAhXDJ5oKHSe7D4YQjjgwAHoECAQQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0DwYZVhHqZVa1azORuJx1o Yeah ok, but why were you talking about time resolution?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 12 minutes ago, Jay said: Honestly 24bit/96khz is probably good enough for everything ever, but what are you gonna do Yeah, the exceedingly high quality samples are probably mostly for marketing purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew 590 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 57 minutes ago, lemoncurd said: I studied urban planning and do graphic design and desktop publishing as a side job..... who did those covers? FOUR DIFFERENT font sizes in these two lines! They should get that graphic designer to work on the Hans Zimmer and RCP albums. There can be a different font size for each "additional music" composer. crumbs and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Sítrónu 494 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 16 minutes ago, Holko said: A sincerely huge FUCK YOU to every German who's too lazy to learn at least this much English and demands everything to be handed to them on a silver platter with their shitty translations. Hey, nobody is actually asking for that. It's just all part of Disney's merchandise empire, of course they think they sell more if they offer German covers.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 13 minutes ago, Chewy said: Yeah ok, but why were you talking about time resolution?! I see I made a bad choice of words. I was intending to refer to the given advantages caused by the high sample rate (which can be thought of as a kind of time resolution). Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 9 minutes ago, lemoncurd said: Hey, nobody is actually asking for that. It's just all part of Disney's merchandise empire, of course they think they sell more if they offer German covers.... Aren't you guys the other huge empire of dubbing? When people refuse to watch anything other than dubbed movies, it sends a message to companies like these. I know, I have to deal with our own cinema monoply empire all the 2 times per year I want to go see a movie there. In a society like that (at least until the older generations die out), when faced with that choice, a majority would choose dubbing and translated, even if it's vastly inferior, it's partly because they've been conditioned to, partly because they're lazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Sítrónu 494 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 well, again: it's always a question of supply and demand. Why should the German brands of the studios pass on this chance? At the same time more and more cinemas in Germany are showing the original version and thankfully people go and see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 oh yeah I bet Empire is that crap 40 minute c.d. too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Nah, they used the 2LP program for the recent digital release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 does it for on one c.d.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Oh yes, 74 glorious minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 why didn't they release it that way way back then? I'm trying to put myself in Shawn Murphy's shoes who is painstakingly working on it. Why on earth would he not want cues like The Dark Side Beckons to be on there It's almost like he only cares about the sound only and not the contents Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 The content was decided decades ago by JW when the OSTs were released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Will Spotify replace the "old" release for this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 I guess they will, but God knows (Disney, that is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 "Who knows" is the main idea of this whole thread I think. Chewy and rpvee 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 too bad Murphy is stricly a sound guy and doensn't seem to have any interest whasoever in expanded releases, almost like a corporate suit with technical knowledge and clueless as to what fans want at this point clearly he could have made it happen greenturnedblue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew 590 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 18 minutes ago, phbart said: Will Spotify replace the "old" release for this one? I guess it would be wise to record the Spotify versions of ANH and ESB just to have a backup of that particular remastering. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,377 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 The Spotify albums are identical to what was released digitally when they reissued the 6 LPs in 2016, so no need to record it! Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 I wonder if the remastered ROTJ will actually sound worse than the original album. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 no need for ANY version over the 1997 special editions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 28 minutes ago, King Mark said: no need for ANY version over the 1997 special editions But the 1997 RotJ doesn't have Lapti Nek and Ewok Celebration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 The sound quality is also severely lacking. Empire and especially Jedi sound lifeless and the latter is intolerable much of the time. Star Wars is too loud and shrill. The album and Anthology versions sound better. The album mixes of Empire and Jedi are glorious. The scores really come alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 King Mark might be a bit deaf. He values quantity over sound quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,080 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Do you think Disney will have a heart and change the artwork before releasing it in May? I'm sure their art department have been scratching their heads because Sony had already done so many reissues with various likeable artwork that essentially robbed them of any more ideas. Im simply going to insert these new 3 disc's in the box set which Sony last did. (The way they should have done since the artwork and liner notes match the OST releases) Sony will have their last laugh. 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Amazon.co.uk tries alternate covers. It's so much better. https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B075VNP551/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_U_x_IAJTAbKW6J2W4 https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B075VNX66B/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_U_x_oFJTAb7T1M2KA https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B075VNJCQ2/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_U_x_JAJTAbD12R3V2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,377 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 They changed everything on Amazon.com as well, although I doubt these are the real covers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Good...good.. they listen to us. Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,301 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 They just need to stick to simplicity. TFA and TLJ got it right. They're OSTs, too, so why not continue that trend and just format the other 6 the same way? Assign new colours to the first 6 movie logos and you're done! TPM: Beige AOTC: Purple ROTS: Orange SW: White ESB: Blue ROTJ: Green Holko and Bayesian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 I'd prefer the original OST cover art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 No, the colour coding needs to be: TPM: pink AOTC: orange ROTS: purple SW: yellow ESB: blue ROTJ: green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Which colour would you choose for Ep. IX then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 The Anthology got it right. Black on black. Manakin Skywalker and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 35 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Which colour would you choose for Ep. IX then? Dunno what the prominent colour of the movie and the marketing material will be yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 I've heard it'll be in black'n white. Star Wars: Force Noir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,301 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, Margo Channing said: Dunno what the prominent colour of the movie and the marketing material will be yet. Pretty positive it will be blue. The second-last scene of TLJ seemed like foreshadowing in that regard. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 TPM: Yellow AOTC: Orange ROTS: Red ANH: Blue TESB: White ROTJ: Green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,301 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 TFA and TLJ have already reserved yellow and red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 ANH : sand beige ESB : ice blue ROTJ : green forest The rest I don't really care. Admin note: @Holko's original response to this, all all subsequent custom cover posts, have now been branched out to a separate thread and are available here: http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/28434-star-wars-custom-covers-thread/ crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,080 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 I was thinking that since Shawn Murphy has gone back to the available original film mixes/tapes; it would be interesting to see a major jump in the sound quality for both EMPIRE and JEDI. Also I'm beginning to see this as a test if this passes the quality check then Disney would seriously consider going for a more complete/definitive restorations in the coming years as Episode 9 wraps up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,301 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 My wishful thinking is they wouldn't have bothered spending time and money scanning all the original master tapes, not to mention re-assembling the OST presentations from scratch, when the first-generation OST masters were already freshly scanned just 2 years ago, and already released under Disney's label. It makes no sense financially unless they're planning something bigger down the road. I'm actually shocked they're using these transfers as the basis of these new CD releases, considering they could've easily re-purposed the 2015 OST remasters that Sony commissioned (which would have cost Disney basically nothing -- they're already using those on their music streaming platforms). Of course, when any future expansion happens is anyone's guess. We know there have been 4K remasters of the original trilogy for years now, probably commissioned the same day Disney bought the company. Those are nowhere to be found. Holko and Chewy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 40 minutes ago, crumbs said: My wishful thinking is they wouldn't have bothered spending time and money scanning all the original master tapes, not to mention re-assembling the OST presentations from scratch, when the first-generation OST masters were already freshly scanned just 2 years ago, and already released under Disney's label. It makes no sense financially unless they're planning something bigger down the road. I bet they went back to the original master tapes because they anyway needed to scan all the cues, either for a future complete score release or for a blu-ray release with upgraded sound. 54 minutes ago, Amer said: I was thinking that since Shawn Murphy has gone back to the available original film mixes/tapes; it would be interesting to see a major jump in the sound quality for both EMPIRE and JEDI. Also I'm beginning to see this as a test if this passes the quality check then Disney would seriously consider going for a more complete/definitive restorations in the coming years as Episode 9 wraps up. Aren't you satisfied with the sound quality of the 2015 digital releases? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,301 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Well if that's the case then it's nice to know someone actually cares about preserving the master tapes, especially considering their age. I just hope all the rumours about the first-generation masters of ESB and ROTJ disintegrating during their 1997 scan (plus the supposedly lost tapes with the infamous sail barge source music) are incorrect, and the tapes were merely lost until someone had the time to scour the salt mines thoroughly. Shawn Murphy's comment about these scans coming from a "best available source" has me a little concerned, admittedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: I bet they went back to the original master tapes because they anyway needed to scan all the cues, either for a future complete score release or for a blu-ray release with upgraded sound. You're right, I didn't think about that; Now that they have fresh scans of the original elements, they could remix the sound in the films themselves. 4 minutes ago, crumbs said: Shawn Murphy's comment about these scans coming from a "best available source" has me a little concerned, admittedly. I noticed that part too. It makes me wonder if he's mostly hinting at ROTJ, and that stuff is still missing there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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