Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 I bought mine in '94, and it lasted for about 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 A skipping CD, nobody have to experience that anymore. It's one the most terrible memory of my late teens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Discmans have gotten back on the market in recent years, but now I guess all of them have antiskip technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 During few moments, we even heard CDs skipping at the radio. It was a terrible period to forget. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,710 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 26 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Me neither, but I prefer the non-computerish user interface of a CD-player offer sitting in front of a computer for a whole day at work. Ah OK. Fair enough. For me it's just about convenience. And I stopped caring about owning a "physical" disc, whether its a CD, DVD or Blu-Ray (and those get ripped and go on the shelf also), a long time ago. I know some people are really into the experience of ripping off the cellophane, cracking open the case the first time, looking at the artwork and liner notes, and the whole experience of "owning" the disc and seeing it in their collection. And that's all good, I just don't care about any of that anymore. I look at the artwork and liner notes, once maybe if I'm interested, and that's it. I got rid of a pretty sizeable CD collection a long time ago, and just kept a handful of special/collectors editions (stuff like the LOTR CR's, Star Wars disc, etc) that have value or mean something to me. Again, I know for some people that's important, which I completely understand. But for me it's just about the music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 54 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: I bought my copy in Europe and fortunately it doesn't include On the Conveyor Belt. You must be the unluckiest SOB in Europe then. I have never seen a copy without OTCB in Europe (and I'm often in the UK, Germany, France, Spain, Italy, Austria, in this order). 4 minutes ago, Nick1066 said: I know some people are really into the experience of ripping off the cellphone Please don't rip off your cellphone. Nick1Ø66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,710 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, Josh500 said: You must be the unluckiest SOB in Europe then. I have never seen a copy without OTCB in Europe (and I'm often in the UK, Germany, France, Spain, Italy, Austria, in this order). Jurassic Shark is known for buying bootleg/grey market stuff. Or he probably went cheap and bought a used copy which originated in the US. Josh500 and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 Just now, Nick1066 said: Jurassic Shark is known for buying bootleg/grey market stuff. Or he probably went cheap and bought a used copy which originated in the US. Yes, that must be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Nick1066 said: Jurassic Shark is known for buying bootleg/grey market stuff. Or he probably went cheap and bought a used copy which originated in the US. Haha, I never buy bootlegs. I bought it at a European webshop, probably amazon.co.uk. But I do think Josh500 should check his facts. I was looking for the version with the OTCB before buying the version without, but I couldn't find it at any of the major European retailers. But after hearing the track I'm glad I didn't find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, Nick1066 said: Ah OK. Fair enough. For me it's just about convenience. And I stopped caring about owning a "physical" disc, whether its a CD, DVD or Blu-Ray (and those get ripped and go on the shelf also), a long time ago. I know some people are really into the experience of ripping off the cellphone, cracking open the case the first time, looking at the artwork and liner notes, and the whole experience of "owning" the disc and seeing it in their collection. And that's all good, I just don't care about any of that anymore. I look at the artwork and liner notes, once maybe if I'm interested, and that's it. I got rid of a pretty sizeable CD collection a long time ago, and just kept a handful of special/collectors editions (stuff like the LOTR CR's, Star Wars disc, etc) that have value or mean something to me. Again, I know for some people that's important, which I completely understand. But for me it's just about the music. I don't collect physical CDs anymore, EXCEPT--and it's a big EXCEPT-- John Williams CDs. I started my collection when I was 12, and I'm still adding to it now (I'm 36 now)! How time flies when you're having fun. 1 minute ago, Jurassic Shark said: Haha, I never buy bootlegs. I bought it at a European webshop, probably amazon.co.uk. But I do think Josh500 should check his facts. I was looking for the version with the OTCB before buying the version without, but I couldn't find it at any of the major European retailers. Why don't you check your CD? You sure there isn't a hidden 14th track on your copy? 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Just did, and thankfully the track is still not there. Maybe you were just dreaming that you were browsing through the CDs at Target, and discovered a bunch of copies with the bonus track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Just did, and thankfully the track is still not there.  Thankfully? So you don't want it. OK... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,710 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Just did, and thankfully the track is still not there. Maybe you were just dreaming that you were browsing through the CDs at Target, and discovered a bunch of copies with the bonus track. Or maybe your non-bonus track US version just ended up in Europe after it fell off the conveyor belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 59 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: It ruins the listening experience of the album. Just like OST presentation of the 2nd disc of Intrada's Jaws is ruined by all the extras that follow. As we don't have Target in Europe, it should come as no surprise that the Target exclusive with the additional track was initially found only in the USA. It might be the case that after a while it was redistributed elsewhere if Target didn't manage to sell it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,710 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: It might be the case that after a while it was redistributed elsewhere if Target didn't manage to sell it all. It sold like crazy. Practically flew off the checkout belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 14 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: As we don't have Target in Europe, it should come as no surprise that the Target exclusive with the additional track was initially found only in the USA. It might be the case that after a while it was redistributed elsewhere if Target didn't manage to sell it all. I think this was just a dumb sales gimmick exclusive to the USA. Like I said, in the past 16 years, in Europe and Japan, I have never even seen a single copy without OTCB. Maybe there was a small batch sold in Europe without it (the US non-Target version), but the standard edition which is sold in Europe even today, includes the bonus track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 21 minutes ago, Nick1066 said: Or maybe your non-bonus track US version just ended up in Europe after it fell off the conveyor belt. 16 minutes ago, Nick1066 said: It sold like crazy. Practically flew off the checkout belt. Oh, belt up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 22 minutes ago, Nick1066 said: Or maybe your non-bonus track US version just ended up in Europe after it fell off the conveyor belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 13 minutes ago, Josh500 said: I think this was just a dumb sales gimmick exclusive to the USA. Like I said, in the past 16 years, in Europe and Japan, I have never even seen a single copy without OTCB. Maybe there was a small batch sold in Europe without it (the US non-Target version), but the standard edition which is sold in Europe even today, includes the bonus track. Here's the one I've got, and it clearly says Europe. https://www.discogs.com/John-Williams-Star-Wars-Episode-II-Attack-Of-The-Clones/release/1842957 But I'm not disputing that you might have gotten the Target exclusive version all over Europe as a free toy together with your McDonald's meal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Here's the one I've got, and it clearly says Europe. https://www.discogs.com/John-Williams-Star-Wars-Episode-II-Attack-Of-The-Clones/release/1842957 But I'm not disputing that you might have gotten the Target exclusive version all over Europe as a free toy together with your McDonald's meal. Again, methinks the dumb sales gimmick are exclusive to the US! McDonald's, Target, get outta here without your corrupt giant US corporations! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, Josh500 said: Again, methinks the dumb sales gimmick are exclusive to the US! Yeah, who cares about facts anyway? There's only one force which can give a definitive answer to whether the extra-track version of AOTC was exclusive to Target or not... The @Bespin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 18 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: There's only one force which can give a definitive answer to whether the extra-track version of AOTC was exclusive to Target or not... The @Bespin. Didn't you read what I wrote? Who said it was exclusive to Target? It wasn't. But it was likely a very small batch in Europe and the rest of the world, because the standard version outside the US is the one including OTCB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 I read what you wrote, but reading isn't necessarily believing. It was said earlier in this thread that it was exclusive to Target. Why would you say it was a very small batch when you claim it was the standard all over Europe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 Just now, Jurassic Shark said: It was said earlier in this thread that it was exclusive to Target. "... in the US." You forgot to read that part! 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 OK, but my point is that the version without the extra track was also manufactured for and sold in Europe, as my Discogs link shows. So both versions seem to have been sold in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,710 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: OK, but my point is that the version without the extra track was also manufactured for and sold in Europe, as my Discogs link shows. No one is going to believe you until you post pics. It's pretty obvious you're trying to fool us all into thinking about have some ultra-rare AOTC CD in the hopes that it will somehow improve your status on the board. Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 @Nick1066, go back to the Shire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Josh500 said: You must be the unluckiest SOB in Europe then. I have never seen a copy without OTCB in Europe (and I'm often in the UK, Germany, France, Spain, Italy, Austria, in this order). I have never seen a copy WITH that bonus track. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 I got my AOTC poster art CD (with the bonus track) at K-Mart. These days, they don't even sell CDs at that shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: I have never seen a copy WITH that bonus track. Josh is confusing Europe with K-Mart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 I don't care about that f***** bonus track, what's the problem with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Josh is under the impression that only the version with the bonus track was issued in Europe. But Europe is more than Slough... Nick1Ø66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Europe, The Target Edition in America... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: Josh is under the impression that only the version with the bonus track was issued in Europe. But Europe is more than Slough... You sound like a Target apologist and sympathiser. 😂😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Ah well maybe I’ll get some of them. RotJ, probably, to see what a “real” Lapti Nek and Ewok Celebration+Finale sound like. I wonder if SW will have the Main Title segue into the Finale (?) as on the OST (?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Of course it will. All six of these albums are the same OST programs Williams assembled at the time of each's film's release. The Illustrious Jerry and Josh500 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 So...for the first time in almost 25 years, we get a remastered LAPTI NEK, and YUB NUB Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 The perspective of hearing even more clearly the Ewok chorale is a real... dream come true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtw42 61 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 [goes and gets copy of AOTC off shelves ... it's the same one JS linked to above, without the OTCB track ... sigh, there's always something] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 That's OK, OTCB isn't that good anyway. dtw42 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,381 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 16 hours ago, Bespin said: The perspective of hearing even more clearly the Ewok chorale is a real... dream come true. I KNOW! Oh, wait. Was that sarcasm? Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Dudes, no love for the Yub Nub? The righteous bass line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 YUB NUB, EEE CHOP YUB NUB, AH TOE MEET TOE PEE-CHEE KEENE, G' NOOP DOCK FLING OH AH! Unlucky Bastard and Bespin 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,386 Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,516 Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 8 hours ago, Pellaeon said: Dudes, no love for the Yub Nub? The righteous bass line? Oh, the actual Yub Nub part is great, I have more of a problem with out-of-nowhere English lyrics (and horrible ones at that) in a Star Wars score, sung in such an irritating and cheesy way that Airplane already parodied it 3 years before it came out Also, it lacks any sort of gravitas or catharsis that would indicate it's the final, closing piece that it's supposed to be. The last few notes of Victory Celebration have this feeling of closure to them, they're satisfying musically, while "Ceelebraaate the looooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE" just climbs higher in pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted March 31, 2018 Author Share Posted March 31, 2018 Seriously, this has to be the prelude to the release of the Complete Scores of all Star Wars movies. It HAS to be! MrScratch and Chewy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 4 hours ago, Holko said: Oh, the actual Yub Nub part is great, I have more of a problem with out-of-nowhere English lyrics (and horrible ones at that) in a Star Wars score, sung in such an irritating and cheesy way that Airplane already parodied it 3 years before it came out Also, it lacks any sort of gravitas or catharsis that would indicate it's the final, closing piece that it's supposed to be. The last few notes of Victory Celebration have this feeling of closure to them, they're satisfying musically, while "Ceelebraaate the looooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE" just climbs higher in pitch. Ah, I see. Well, that’s kind of the point, isn’t it? Old Hollywood, grand and uncynical? I dunno, I find it satisfying and congruous with the rest of the Trilogy. Victory Celebration sounds distinctly dated to the 90s. Peruvian pan flutes? Tallguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 17 minutes ago, Pellaeon said: (...) Victory Celebration sounds distinctly dated to the 90s. Peruvian pan flutes? Mercy, don't talk about what will become unimportant simple "bonus" track in an hypothetical future expansions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,516 Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 If Disney releases them, I think there's a chance they'd push the current canonical ending cue to be in the main soundtrack presentation, and the old replaced one to be the bonus. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 44 minutes ago, Pellaeon said: Victory Celebration sounds distinctly dated to the 90s. Peruvian pan flutes? At least he was ahead of his time then. 5 hours ago, Holko said: Oh, the actual Yub Nub part is great, I have more of a problem with out-of-nowhere English lyrics Yeah, unlike the dialogue, which is in... English?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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