Anyone here succumbed to 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray?

[1977 1,743]

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Superman-The-Movie-4K-Blu-ray/216211/#Review

 

This made my mind up. I'm happy with the Blu-ray (all three versions).

6 hours ago, Norma's Corpse said:

 

Where do you live?

 

South Africa

[Alan 689]

On 11/7/2018 at 6:30 PM, crocodile said:

Anyone has seen Superman: The Movie yet? I might get it once I get back home.

 

Karol

 

I bought and watched it today. A great presentation of the film as shot and intended. Easily the best home presentation of the film so far. People should be aware though that Superman is never going to be 4k & HDR demo material! It has a fair amount of film grain which thankfully has not been tampered with, particularly in shots with optical effects. The stylistic choices made by Geoffrey Unsworth do not lend themselves to high contrast, massively dynamic images.

 

To me it looked like watching a flawless theatrical print with the possible exception of the scene with the Krypton council. Their faces are maybe a little on the grey side.

 

The new Atmos mix is pretty punchy but it also comes with the original mix too.

[Naïve Old Fart 9,496]

Thanks for that, @Alan.

Regarding the "original mix": is that the multi-channel 1978 mix, or the suped-up 2000 mix?

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

19 minutes ago, Richard said:

Thanks for that, @Alan.

Regarding the "original mix": is that the multi-channel 1978 mix, or the suped-up 2000 mix?

 

The second blu-ray release had the original mix in DTS-HD 2.0.

[A24 4,326]

I'll wait for the 8K and 192kHz Hi-Res audio release.

[crocodile 7,984]

45 minutes ago, Richard said:

Thanks for that, @Alan.

Regarding the "original mix": is that the multi-channel 1978 mix, or the suped-up 2000 mix?

Neil S. Bulk was raving about the mix so it must be a winner.

 

 

By the way @Alan I watched it last night. It looked lovely. But I bet a lot of the 4K "afficionados" will be moaning about it. Oh they will.😄 

 

Karol

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Who?

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

57 minutes ago, crocodile said:

 

By the way @Alan I watched it last night. It looked lovely. But I bet a lot of the 4K "afficionados" will be moaning about it. Oh they will.😄 

 

Karol

 

I worry about this that the studios will capitulate to the demands of the gearhead geek enthusiasts and begin smearing older films to achieve a faux digital look. And I hate how blu-ray.com keeps rating picture quality of older films based on how they measure up against the latest state-of-the-art digital shooting standards. So to them, an accurately transfered film from the 1970s looks like an actual 35mm print, but it loses a point because of grain - that's how its meant to look, you morons!

[Alan 689]

38 minutes ago, Norma's Corpse said:

 

I worry about this that the studios will capitulate to the demands of the gearhead geek enthusiasts and begin smearing older films to achieve a faux digital look. And I hate how blu-ray.com keeps rating picture quality of older films based on how they measure up against the latest state-of-the-art digital shooting standards. So to them, an accurately transfered film from the 1970s looks like an actual 35mm print, but it loses a point because of grain - that's how its meant to look, you morons!

 

I agree. So far my experience with UHD has been better than it was with BD in this regard though. Films that were notorious for having grain scrubbed away to the point of actors looking like wax models, like Predator, have now been released on UHD disc looking far more natural. Sony in particular have been very good at not scrubbing away grain from 35mm productions. Universal still seems a bit hit & miss with it though.

 

1 hour ago, crocodile said:

 

By the way @Alan I watched it last night. It looked lovely. But I bet a lot of the 4K "afficionados" will be moaning about it. Oh they will.😄 

 

Karol

 

Oh they already are!

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

3 minutes ago, Alan said:

 

I agree. So far my experience with UHD has been better than it was with BD in this regard though. Films that were notorious for having grain scrubbed away to the point of actors looking like wax models, like Predator, have now been released on UHD disc looking far more natural. Sony in particular have been very good at not scrubbing away grain from 35mm productions. Universal still seems a bit hit & miss with it though.

 

The Fox 4K restorations seem to have a yellow bias to them, so they aren't colour correcting to how they looked upon release. I'm on the fence about this practice. Not sure how the Warner and Paramount ones look.

[JoeinAR 1,949]

Thanks to Black Friday sales I was able to finally snag my 4k player and a handful of films I do not currently have. As I said previously I will not double dip except for a few instances. I was tempted by T-2 but read the reviews and they were not very good.

[JoeinAR 1,949]

I was reading that the 4K version of Close Encounters of the Third Kind is a significant upgrade over the blu-ray. I have always felt that the blu-ray version was poor. I certainly may look into the upgrade.

[crocodile 7,984]

It looks nice. And so does the new Blu-ray.

 

Karol

[crocodile 7,984]

By the way, I added First Blood, Ant-Man and the Wasp and Mission: Impossible - Fallout to my collection today.

 

Karol

[A24 4,326]

Hmmm ...

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

First Blood is quite a good film though, Alex.

[JoeinAR 1,949]

1 hour ago, crocodile said:

By the way, I added First Blood, Ant-Man and the Wasp and Mission: Impossible - Fallout to my collection today.

 

Karol

I am going to add Fallout. I still need to get Black Panther and Ant-Man and the Wasp. I read that The Mummy (B. Fraiser's) in 4k is stunning. AND the ending of AM in conjunction to Infinity Wars is jaw dropping.

[crocodile 7,984]

The Mummy looks very good indeed. Very cinematic. The Mummy Returns not so much... cheaper and shittier. 

 

Karol

[Not Mr. Big 4,639]

6 hours ago, crocodile said:

The Mummy looks very good indeed. Very cinematic. The Mummy Returns not so much... cheaper and shittier. 

 

Karol

The Mummy Returns holds up!

[A24 4,326]

10 hours ago, Stefancos said:

First Blood is quite a good film though, Alex.

 

But 4K good?

[crocodile 7,984]

8 minutes ago, Alexcremers said:

 

But 4K good?

Haha actually most modern films would fit into that category as they are mastered in 2K. Oldies don't have that problem for obvious reason.

 

Karol

[publicist 4,643]

1 hour ago, Alexcremers said:

But 4K good?

 

True, i don't added any of those 'childhood' movies for the obvious reason that some remain best in shitty VHS presentations (did Rambo II ever look better than in Pan and scan with its upper image warped to the right?), others you just don't need to see again (First Blood, Gremlins etc.). I added Scott's Legend, though: the trainwrecks are often more interesting than the polished ones.

[crocodile 7,984]

I watched Gremlins recently for the first time since I was about 8 and it was great!

 

Karol

[publicist 4,643]

For whatever reason i'm very bored *especially* with the very narratively driven movies. Give me the loose cannon that is 'Gremlins 2# over it any day.

[JoeinAR 1,949]

On 12/4/2018 at 12:18 AM, Alexcremers said:

 

But 4K good?

Ben Hur is 4k good. Actually its 8K good.

[JoeinAR 1,949]

I added Superman the Movie and Brendan Frazier's the Mummy based on 4k reviews. My only double dips so far.

[Naïve Old Fart 9,496]

6 hours ago, JoeinAR said:

Ben Hur is 4k good. Actually its 8K good.

I assume you mean the 1959 version, Joe?

[JoeinAR 1,949]

Just now, Richard said:

I assume you mean the 1959 version, Joe?

and the 1925 version as well. 

[JoeinAR 1,949]

So it appears that Star Trek II The Wrath of Khan will become available in 4K in 2019.

So I had it on BetaMax, VHS, RCA video disk, dvd, Blu Ray, and now I have to get a 4K? So septadipping?

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Amazing!

[JoeinAR 1,949]

6 hours ago, Stefancos said:

Amazing!

Idiotic fits better

[A24 4,326]

Just don't do it, Joe. It's not like that movie is endlessly rewatchable.

[JoeinAR 1,949]

7 hours ago, Alexcremers said:

Just don't do it, Joe. It's not like that movie is endlessly rewatchable.

But it is Alex! I won't be double dipping on it. My few exceptions are E.T., Jaws, Superman the Movie, Close Encounters, and the Mummy based on reviews of picture and sound quality. I will pick up Starship Troopers which I do not own at all. 

I will still purchase films on Blu, gonna order Them and The Thing from Another World. Though from my understanding the picture upgrade from dvd to blu is minimal there is extra content.

[JoeinAR 1,949]

The picture quality is exceptional. Its one thing to see it in the store but in my home. We put Paddington 2 in the upscaling was beautiful. But the Avengers in 4K looks great as does the sound. 

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Does it look natural, or ridiculously brightly coloured and unrealistic?

[JoeinAR 1,949]

Its beautifully colored.  Janus Kaminski was horrified. 

[Jay 37,287]

20th Century Fox to deliver ALIEN: 40th Anniversary on Blu-ray & 4K Ultra HD in April

 

[Koray Savas 2,251]

I find it odd that studios are only doing one film releases. Guess to test sale waters? Die Hard got a solo 4K release, as did The Matrix. Though the latter eventually got a trilogy set. 

[Holko 9,499]

When in the evolution of home cinema have we lost the art of cover art and succumbed to godawful horrendousness like this?

[Koray Savas 2,251]

Like 15 years ago? 😛

 

Criterion is our only saving grace for art direction. 

[A24 4,326]

I hope Europe gets a classier release.

[Holko 9,499]

How does it even represent its film in the slightest? Imagine if someone buys it purely based on this image of a metallic robotic alien thing with oily rainbow shine in front of a bright background and gets a kind of slowburn, dark, grungy '70s movie. (Of course I don't really know exactly how it looks after the obligatory motherf... regrading)

[A24 4,326]

Indeed, it looks more like something out of Prometheus. 

[Jay 37,287]

7 hours ago, Alexcremers said:

I hope Europe gets a classier release.

 

That IS the European cover.  You didn't notice the European logos in the bottom left?

[Corellian2019 383]

The post says that it's temporary artwork

[JoeinAR 1,949]

9 hours ago, Holko said:

How does it even represent its film in the slightest? Imagine if someone buys it purely based on this image of a metallic robotic alien thing with oily rainbow shine in front of a bright background and gets a kind of slowburn, dark, grungy '70s movie. (Of course I don't really know exactly how it looks after the obligatory motherf... regrading)

Way better than the Jaws Dvd covers

[A24 4,326]

Just now, Corellian2019 said:

The post says that it's temporary artwork

 

Thank god!

 

2 hours ago, Jay said:

 

That IS the European cover.  You didn't notice the European logos in the bottom left?

 

I only looked at the 'design' of the cover. BTW, we're used to very different logos in Belgium. Have a look:

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

European logo? 

[JoeinAR 1,949]

I think my next purchase will be Starship Troopers. Its not a double dip since I do not own it. 

[rough cut 1,714]

I’ll upgrade to a new 4K UHD player in May. Sony will release a player that supports HDR as well as Dolby Vision. It also plays both SACD and DVD-A.

 

Everything you need! : )

 

https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/blu-ray-disc-players/ubp-x800m2

 

Hmm... now I just need a TV to match! 😅