I lost ALL my music and ALL my Williams research!

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

1 minute ago, Jurassic Shark said:

It's a stupid question.

 

It's not. The rule of thumb is that you need to have important stuff saved to at least 3 drives. I was wondering why Thor doesn't adhere to this very logical, and these days quite economical safety precaution.

 

There is a lesson to be learned here, and I hope Thor will learn it.

[Jurassic Shark 12,051]

I think people are able to draw conclusions themselves, without you rubbing it in.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

Fortunately, Thor is mighty.

[Jurassic Shark 12,051]

He could fix the HD with his hammer.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

Well if there's too much weight, you lose power in the swing, so.

[Thor 7,490]

2 hours ago, Stefancos said:

 

It's not. The rule of thumb is that you need to have important stuff saved to at least 3 drives. I was wondering why Thor doesn't adhere to this very logical, and these days quite economical safety precaution.

 

There is a lesson to be learned here, and I hope Thor will learn it.

 

Oh, believe me, I have.

 

I'm rather poor, so I didn't see the need for an extra backup at the time (another external HD or a cloud system). I wanted to save those 700 NOK -- which is about what a HDD costs, or the cost of a cloud per year. Of course, in hindsight, I'm well aware it was a poor decision, and that it would have been a wise investment.

 

So I'm either going to buy TWO HDDs now, or a new HDD and a cloud system (probably Jottacloud, which has unlimited storage).

 

The good news is that I've managed to save SOME of my music through my old iPod. The bad news is that it's missing many hundred albums, and that the files were stored stupidly on the computer -- alphabetical by track title (so, like, a HUNDRED John Williams "Main Titles" tracks in a row, for example), all in one massive folder. Will take me months and years to re-organize, but at least I now have some of the music again.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

I'm sorry for your loss. I hope you will be able to get back some more of your stuff.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

I'd like to say good luck, and we're all counting on you.

[Nick1Ø66 4,710]

1 hour ago, Thor said:

 

So I'm either going to buy TWO HDDs now, or a new HDD and a cloud system (probably Jottacloud, which has unlimited storage).

 

 

How much data do you have to back up (in terms of size)?

[Thor 7,490]

15 minutes ago, Nick1066 said:

 

How much data do you have to back up (in terms of size)?

 

Perhaps 750 GB at the present time.

[Marian Schedenig 8,191]

You can always backup your core data to a free cloud account somewhere. As long as you're not into video or audio production of some kind, your own personal files (i.e. the most irreplaceable ones) shouldn't take up too much storage. Google Drive, Dropbox or that Microsoft thingy give you a certain amount of free space, and if you don't trust them with your plain data, you can encrypt it before uploading it (just be sure to pick a safe password that you can actually remember, or a well-backupped key, or all will be for naught when you suddenly can't decrypt your backup).

 

Decentralised storages are the physically safest option for backups in any case, so unless you have friends in different places who are willing to let you keep your files on their drives (or physical drives with your backups on them in their houses), the "cloud" is probably your safest bet.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

Can I keep all my porn on the cloud?

[Wojo 2,453]

The cloud is just a hard drive somewhere else. 

[Jurassic Shark 12,051]

No way.

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

 

I lost everything!

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

2 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said:

No way.

 

He's not wrong.

[Wojo 2,453]

I think the clever one was using an obscure form of sarcasm. 

[Jurassic Shark 12,051]

It's common knowledge that after a rainfall you have to re-upload your data to the cloud.

[Nick1Ø66 4,710]

2 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

It's common knowledge that after a rainfall you have to re-upload your data to the cloud.

 

Indeed.

 

 

[Gnome in Plaid 219]

I'd at the very least try taking the HD into some tech repair shop.  I dropped one a few years ago, but it turned out the drive itself was fine and what I'd broken was the USB connection.  It worked fine once I pulled it out of the enclosure and hooked it up to a SATA to USB cable.

[Jurassic Shark 12,051]

@Thor, listen to @Gnome in Plaid you should.

[Marian Schedenig 8,191]

2 hours ago, Gnome in Plaid said:

I'd at the very least try taking the HD into some tech repair shop.  I dropped one a few years ago, but it turned out the drive itself was fine and what I'd broken was the USB connection.  It worked fine once I pulled it out of the enclosure and hooked it up to a SATA to USB cable.

 

SATA drives usually have S.M.A.R.T. which gives early warnings of hard disk failures and (I think) tries to compensate for them. Problem is, if you connect them as external USB drives, the USB controller (usually? for cheap ones at least) doesn't handle the S.M.A.R.T. stuff. So no early warnings, and once the drive actually produces errors, the USB controller will either report nothing but errors or even hang.

 

I had a drive fail like that, but when I opened it up it turned out to be a regular SATA drive that I could hook up to my internal connectors, which then handled the S.M.A.R.T. stuff correctly. Allowed me to grab nearly all the data from a drive that previously seemed completely dead via USB.

 

(I proceeded to send it in for warranty repair at IBM, at my own shipping costs, too, and never heard from it again...)

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

In other words, you recalibrated the code warning all surviving music to stay away.

 

You cracked the code. Why don't you show Thor what you've discovered so far. 

[The Illustrious Jerry 3,356]

On ‎2018‎-‎04‎-‎28 at 4:14 AM, Thor said:

I have. It's about 10.000 NOK! I could buy 1000 CDs for that.

Or you could go without the 1600 you lost. I don't know.

 

This is unfortunate (hardly a good word) and I hope you figure something out. We're here!

On ‎2018‎-‎04‎-‎29 at 12:01 PM, Woj said:

The cloud is just a hard drive somewhere else. 

I was always taught that the cloud is dependent on some guy in Korea always having his PC on and connected. Oh well.

[Amer 2,090]

Thor, Sorry for this. I hear your pain. I have lots of stuff archived. I could send them to you.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

3 hours ago, Batman's Diet Coke said:

In other words, you recalibrated the code warning all surviving music to stay away.

 

You cracked the code. Why don't you show Thor what you've discovered so far. 

 

And figure out what he hasn't thought of yet.

[Thor 7,490]

11 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said:

(I proceeded to send it in for warranty repair at IBM, at my own shipping costs, too, and never heard from it again...)

 

There was no warranty anymore on mine, bought in 2010.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

2010... still sounds like the future to me.

[Amer 2,090]

Thor. I'm willing to share what ever you need from my JW archives. Let me know. 

[Thor 7,490]

1 hour ago, Amer said:

Thor. I'm willing to share what ever you need from my JW archives. Let me know. 

 

Thank you, Amer. I'm still not even close to getting an overview, re-arranging what I've been able to restore from other sources etc. etc., but I'll definitely take you up on the offer in a few weeks, when I have control of the situation.

[Jay 37,336]

Thor, I'm sorry to hear about this.

 

However, it's extremely unlikely you lost more than a small amount of data that was on the external hard drive that fell to the floor.  Any good repair shop will be able to recover most all of your files off it.  That should be the first thing you look into.

[pete 907]

I've used Carbonite for online backup since about 2011 when I also dropped a hard drive. I also keep my music on two external hard drives in addition to my PC hard drive. Music is life

[Damien F 1,742]

That's rough Thor. So sorry.

 

I agree with Jay though. Although your PC may not be able to read the HD, I would imagine most of the actual data is still intact on the drive.

 

A few years ago, my HD died. The hardest loss was one spreadsheet that contained years of work. I brought the drive to a repair shop. I would have been happy with just that one file but they were able to recover absolutely everything. It wasn't too expensive either. The shop is amusingly called 'Back From The Future'.

 

If you want to mail me the drive (packaged securely of course) I'd be happy to get them to take a look at it. PM me if you are interested.

[Thor 7,490]

Much appreciated, Damien (and everyone else for the support, of course). I'll let you know once I get an overview.

[filmmusic 1,825]

Very sorry about your loss, but yeah, isn't it possible to buy a new hard drive and copy all the retrieved data (I'm sure many can be retrieved) in the new one?

It had happened to me once, and I hadn't lost anything. (of course I took my hard drive to a specialist).

 

Feel free to ask me too whatever you want.

I have a hunch I'll be the only one that will have videos of the old TV shows!

[Thor 7,490]

34 minutes ago, filmmusic said:

I have a hunch I'll be the only one that will have videos of the old TV shows!

 

I think you're right about that!

 

Imagine, I had a COMPLETE JW filmography -- from YOU ARE WELCOME to the latest, including the super-rare STORY OF A WOMAN. Now lost! Plus a collection of TV episodes that I think only you and a few others can match, Konstantinos.

[Jay 37,336]

You keep saying you "lost" everything, but you didn't!  It's all right there on your dropped hard drive, you just can't read it.  A shop will be able to get everything for you.  Focus on that first, not re-downloading stuff, at least not yet!

[Thor 7,490]

I'm trying to do both simultaneously. After I just posted on Facebook, an ex-uncle of mine (who's a computer expert) said he could look at it this weekend. Fingers crossed!

 

Meanwhile, I've managed to transfer a lot from my iPod and material sent from fellow colleagues. I've spent the last few days re-organizing that to the best of my ability (but a proper re-organizing, with logical folder structures etc., will take weeks and months). All of this work could be a waste, of course, if my uncle is able to retrieve the material, but I'd like to be 'in front of' the massive work load if it proves futile.

 

But yes -- I've paused any more efforts now untill he has looked at it.

[Fargo 297]

Cloud storage is the way to go, bro

[Jurassic Shark 12,051]

What do you do when it starts raining?

[Bilbo 3,709]

4 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

What do you do when it starts raining?

Free downloads!!

[Thor 7,490]

I just realized I have a 1TB Dropbox account. I tried to upload one of my folders there (a medium-sized one of 30GB), and it said it was a DAY upload time. So I can't imagine what it will be like when I'm going to upload my 200 GB music collection, even in increments of 30 at a time or something! I apparently need a faster internet connection too. The costs are killing me! And all of this just because I wanted to extend the life of my 6 year old computer with a year or two!

[Jurassic Shark 12,051]

You'll get rich and all your troubles will disappear when you've written that JW biography.

[Thor 7,490]

2 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

You'll get rich and all your troubles will disappear when you've written that JW biography.

 

With what research material?

[Jurassic Shark 12,051]

29 minutes ago, Thor said:

 

With what research material?

 

Just Google it!

[Nick1Ø66 4,710]

 

On 5/2/2018 at 3:34 PM, Thor said:

I just realized I have a 1TB Dropbox account. I tried to upload one of my folders there (a medium-sized one of 30GB), and it said it was a DAY upload time. So I can't imagine what it will be like when I'm going to upload my 200 GB music collection, even in increments of 30 at a time or something! I apparently need a faster internet connection too. The costs are killing me! And all of this just because I wanted to extend the life of my 6 year old computer with a year or two!

 

This is why I asked you earlier about how much you have to backup...750gb via an online backup service could take months, deepening on how fast your connection is (and where their servers are located). I think online backups are best for docs, pics, iTunes libraries, your book manuscript, etc. that are stored on our computer's hard drive...things you use and update regularly.  Once they're backed up the first time, only version changed files are uploaded during the incremental backups.

 

But if you just have a lot of stuff you want to archive, it might be easier, and more cost effective, to simply store the data on 2 (or 3) different hard drives, with at least one stored in a separate location, if you're really paranoid about it.  

[Thor 7,490]

Yes, that's why I never went for a cloud system in the first place (in addition to the annual cost, as previously mentioned). It would take me months to upload all. And Dropbox isn't really suitable for it, since you'd have to package everything in single files.

[Garagebondit 0]

You have to just download all the folders you've got in Google Drive as a zip file. You can download it on your computer or your Transcend and then unzip it if necessary. I have also saved a copy of all my files on a separate hard disk after making a DATA RECOVERY to restore the data lost from my computer. Google Drive is a good cloud for files, but you have to pay monthly if the amount of files exceeds the free one. I decided to buy a hard disk, and in this way, I get to save as much information I need on it, not being afraid that I'll lose it. I hope you understand how to save files from Google Drive. I can also share screenshots with you of the process if you want.

[Jurassic Shark 12,051]

There you see, @Thor, problem fixed.

[Thor 7,490]

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