"Nixon" cue titles from GEMA repertoire

[Corellian2019 383]

A while ago, out of sheer chance I stumbled upon the cue titles registered under GEMA for the complete score to Nixon. I have organized them here in two batches. The first is in more or less chronological order, keeping in mind that it's been ages since I've seen the whole film. The second batch is in alphabetical order because I don't remember their placement within the narrative. Regardless, for those with better memory, feel free to snoop around and organize all the titles as you see fit. Without further ado:

 

 

Did I Approve

TV Debate

Election Results

You Won't Have Nixon To Kick Around

Flashback To Cuba

A Day At The Races

The Jones Ranch

Ship Meeting

Kitchen Talk

Hoover's Death

Talking With Lincoln

China Bells

China Clouds

Mitchell Must Go

The Bridge

Firing Of Associates

I'm Not A Crook

Nixon To Hospital

Back To Life

You Have The Army

If There Was Another Recording

Praying

Farewell Speech

 

 

Air Pocket

Battle Hymn-Ending

Break In Revisited

Cuban Meeting

Dinner Scene

Dinner Scene (Part 2)

Drums

Early Days

Early Days (Part 2)

Family Chat

Family Chat (Part 2)

Father-Daughter Scene

Football To Campaigning

Harold's Death

Hunt

I Hate Losing

I Want A Divorce

It's A Lie

Johnson's Farewell

Johnson's Speech

Lewis J. Fielding M.D. (Part 2)

Meeting On The Potomac

Meeting On The Potomac (Part 2)

Mother Appears

Mother's Faithful Dog

The News

Nixon's Order

Nixon Plays

Nixon Tries To Explain

Sounds Like Mother

Talking About The Options

They Want To Believe The President

To Washington

Walk To Press Meeting

We Failed Him

[crumbs 14,287]

I'm not overly familiar with the score but I thought it was reasonably short? That's a lot of cues.

[Josh500 1,615]

49 minutes ago, crumbs said:

I'm not overly familiar with the score but I thought it was reasonably short? That's a lot of cues.

 

Nixon is the second longest movie JW scored, at around 3 hours and 20 minutes! It's not his longest score, but it's far from short.

2 hours ago, Corellian2019 said:

A while ago, out of sheer chance I stumbled upon the cue titles registered under GEMA for the complete score to Nixon. I have organized them here in two batches. The first is in more or less chronological order, keeping in mind that it's been ages since I've seen the whole film. The second batch is in alphabetical order because I don't remember their placement within the narrative. Regardless, for those with better memory, feel free to snoop around and organize all the titles as you see fit. Without further ado:

 

 

Did I Approve

TV Debate

Election Results

You Won't Have Nixon To Kick Around

Flashback To Cuba

A Day At The Races

The Jones Ranch

Ship Meeting

Kitchen Talk

Hoover's Death

Talking With Lincoln

China Bells

China Clouds

Mitchell Must Go

The Bridge

Firing Of Associates

I'm Not A Crook

Nixon To Hospital

Back To Life

You Have The Army

If There Was Another Recording

Praying

Farewell Speech

 

 

Air Pocket

Battle Hymn-Ending

Break In Revisited

Cuban Meeting

Dinner Scene

Dinner Scene (Part 2)

Drums

Early Days

Early Days (Part 2)

Family Chat

Family Chat (Part 2)

Father-Daughter Scene

Football To Campaigning

Harold's Death

Hunt

I Hate Losing

I Want A Divorce

It's A Lie

Johnson's Farewell

Johnson's Speech

Lewis J. Fielding M.D. (Part 2)

Meeting On The Potomac

Meeting On The Potomac (Part 2)

Mother Appears

Mother's Faithful Dog

The News

Nixon's Order

Nixon Plays

Nixon Tries To Explain

Sounds Like Mother

Talking About The Options

They Want To Believe The President

To Washington

Walk To Press Meeting

We Failed Him

 

This is one score I'd like to see the Complete Edition of, along with Born on the Fourth of July and JFK. 

[Brundlefly 2,385]

2 hours ago, Josh500 said:

 

Nixon is the second longest movie JW scored, at around 3 hours and 20 minutes! It's not his longest score, but it's far from short.

 

This is one score I'd like to see the Complete Edition of, along with Born on the Fourth of July and JFK. 

What is his longest?

 

As well as everyone else.

[Incanus 5,713]

3 hours ago, crumbs said:

I'm not overly familiar with the score but I thought it was reasonably short? That's a lot of cues.

If I remember correctly there are quite a few shorter tracks in the film following Stone's rather collage-styled editing of many sequences. The OST album contains many of the longer cues from the film and some tracks where JW has in his classic style combined cues from several scenes from all over the film. But I would love a complete score release of this one. I think it might be a minor revelation especially as there are so many little pieces here that foreshadow Williams' writing for e.g. the Star Wars Prequels. Plus I love the mix of brooding grand darkness and nostalgic Americana solidity Johnny conjures with this music.

[Josh500 1,615]

2 hours ago, Brundlefly said:

What is his longest?

 

I believe Schindler's List is longer.

1 hour ago, Incanus said:

If I remember correctly there are quite a few shorter tracks in the film following Stone's rather collage-styled editing of many sequences. The OST album contains many of the longer cues from the film and some tracks where JW has in his classic style combined cues from several scenes from all over the film. But I would love a complete score release of this one. I think it might be a minor revelation especially as there are so many little pieces here that foreshadow Williams' writing for e.g. the Star Wars Prequels. Plus I love the mix of brooding grand darkness and nostalgic Americana solidity Johnny conjures with this music.

 

Nixon might be one of the most underrated John Williams scores! For the longest time I hardly listened to this (especially since I never saw the movie), but this score is actually fantastic and almost every track offers something surprising and unexpected.

 

Initially, I thought this very dissonant and unlistenable, but maybe my musical tastes have matured. These days I find this endlessly fascinating.

[Brundlefly 2,385]

Nixon is 212 minutes,

JFK is 206 minutes,

Schindler's List is 195 minutes.

[Josh500 1,615]

22 hours ago, Brundlefly said:

JFK is 206 minutes

 

That's the expanded Director's Cut.

 

The theatrical version was 188 minutes.

22 hours ago, Brundlefly said:

Nixon is 212 minutes

 

Same here. The theatrical version was 192 minutes.

[Brundlefly 2,385]

7 hours ago, Josh500 said:

That's the expanded Director's Cut.

 

The theatrical version was 188 minutes.

 

Same here. The theatrical version was 192 minutes.

The one and only cut of both movies. The Theatrical Cut of JFK is not even available in my country.

[Josh500 1,615]

1 hour ago, Brundlefly said:

The Theatrical Cut of JFK is not even available in my country.

 

Which is which country? 

 

The theatrical cut was the version in the theatre when it came out. Duh.

[Sharkissimo 1,973]

I place Nixon within my top 5 Williams scores, so you can imagine how much I'd love a complete release.

[Josh500 1,615]

13 hours ago, Sharky said:

I place Nixon within my top 5 Williams scores, so you can imagine how much I'd love a complete release.

 

Really?

 

Which cues especially are among your favourites? And why? 

[Sharkissimo 1,973]

2 minutes ago, Josh500 said:

Which cues especially are among your favourites? And why? 

 

This feels like a deposition. 

 

I”ll answer later.

[Josh500 1,615]

1 hour ago, Sharky said:

 

This feels like a deposition. 

 

I”ll answer later.

 

You have to think about the answer? 

 

I thought this score is in your Top 5! 😂 

[Sharkissimo 1,973]

1 hour ago, Josh500 said:

You have to think about the answer?

 

Well, I could just reply "Because it's fucking awesome. That's why" followed by this:

 

 

Not much thought involved!

[Josh500 1,615]

47 minutes ago, Sharky said:

 

Well, I could just reply "Because it's fucking awesome. That's why" followed by this:

 

 

Not much thought involved!

 

My question was which cues are your favourites. But whatever.

 

I agree the score is awesome.

[Sharkissimo 1,973]

15 minutes ago, Josh500 said:

 

My question was which cues are your favourites. But whatever.

 

Mate, I told you 2 weeks ago to this very day!

 

On 4/20/2018 at 11:51 PM, Sharky said:

Hard to choose, but if I had to.

 

Main Title... The White House Gate

The 1960s; The Turbulent  Years

Growing Up in Whittier

The Meeting with Mao

The Miami Convention 1968

I Am That Sacrifice

The Farewell Scene

 

Are you trying to gaslight me?

 

[Josh500 1,615]

1 hour ago, Sharky said:

 

Mate, I told you 2 weeks ago to this very day!

 

Oh yeah, I forgot that was you. That was in another thread, though.

1 hour ago, Sharky said:

Are you trying to gaslight me?

 

 

Get over yourself! I don't care enough about you to "gaslight" you. 😂 

 

I'm just trying to get different opinions on this score, that's all.

[Sharkissimo 1,973]

2 hours ago, Josh500 said:

Get over yourself!

 

Physician heal thyself.

[filmmusic 1,822]

On 2/5/2018 at 7:44 AM, Corellian2019 said:

A while ago, out of sheer chance I stumbled upon the cue titles registered under GEMA for the complete score to Nixon.

Is it possible to find the cue titles of ALWAYS?

3 of them are:

Dorinda and Pete (and alternate)

Among the Clouds

Dorinda Survives

[Corellian2019 383]

I tried, but no luck. However, looking at BMI a while ago, I found:

 

Pete At The Refrigerator

Explosion Of Pete's Plane

Dorinda's Flying Entrance

Dorinda Survives

 

[Josh500 1,615]

7 hours ago, filmmusic said:

Is it possible to find the cue titles of ALWAYS?

3 of them are:

Dorinda and Pete (and alternate)

Among the Clouds

Dorinda Survives

 

How complete is the Always OS album anyway? How much music is missing? It can't be much.

[filmmusic 1,822]

1 hour ago, Josh500 said:

 

How complete is the Always OS album anyway? How much music is missing? It can't be much.

yes, I checked the film yesterday with the ost.

It's missing 2 brief cues if I'm not mistaken, 1,30 minute in total.

[Corellian2019 383]

Revisited the film today (theatrical cut), and here is the chronological order of the cue titles to the best of my recollection:

 

Break In Revisited

Did I Approve

TV Debate

Election Results

I Hate To Lose

Mother's Faithful Dog

Football To Campaigning

Nixon Plays

I Want A Divorce

You Won't Have Nixon To Kick Around

The Jones Ranch

Johnson's Speech

Flashback To Cuba

A Day At The Races

Talking With Lincoln

Harold's Death

Ship Meeting

Kitchen Talk

Nixon Tries To Explain

Battle Hymn-Ending

It's A Lie

Sounds Like Mother

Lewis J. Fielding M.D. (Part 2)

China Bells

Mitchell Must Go

We Failed Him

The Bridge

Firing Of Associates

Father-Daughter Scene

The News

Mother Appears

Nixon To Hospital

Back To Life

I'm Not A Crook

You Have The Army

If There Was Another Recording

Praying

Farewell Speech

 

Also, can anyone identify the vocal track heard during the end credits?

[Incanus 5,713]

1 hour ago, Corellian2019 said:

Also, can anyone identify the vocal track heard during the end credits?

If I remember correctly, they use at least Shenandoah (below info from IMDB):

SHENANDOAH 
Traditional; Arranged by James Erb 
Performed by The Tabernacle Choir at Temple Square; Jerold Ottley, Conductor 
Courtesy of London Records 
by arrangement with PolyGram Film & TV Licensing 

 

[crumbs 14,287]

So apparently this lengthy 10+ minute scene is exclusive to the director's cut (wasn't in the theatrical at all) but it's scored almost entirely with JW music.

 

Does anyone know if they just tracked music from elsewhere in the film or did JW score the scene before it was deleted? I've never seen the film so I have no idea if the music is from elsewhere.

 

 

Also, revisiting the OST for this score and I have to say... this soundtrack is an underrated gem! I would absolutely love to hear a deluxe expansion someday (along with everything else!)

 

Any ideas how much music is unreleased overall? Seems to be a lot...

[Tom 4,630]

I don't know the answer to your question, but, yes, it is underrated (and I am usually quite adverse to that term). I think the full-scale dark, tragic operatic sound represents a unique entry for Williams (though he would do the same for ROTS 9 years later). 

 

I love this score.  While no one would see it, it would make for a power LTP experience.   

[crumbs 14,287]

It's very much a proto-ROTS, yes! The ominous dark passages, the big brassy fanfares, the elegiac adagio-esque string passages, it's remarkably varied! 

 

And what a stunning performance from the orchestra too, they recorded some very impressive scores in LA throughout the 90s.

[BrotherSound 2,241]

3 hours ago, crumbs said:

Also, revisiting the OST for this score and I have to say... this soundtrack is an underrated gem! I would absolutely love to hear a deluxe expansion someday (along with everything else!)

 

Any ideas how much music is unreleased overall? Seems to be a lot...

 

Let's see:

 

1M3 Opening Credits [unreleased section replaced by insert] 1:00

1M6 They Want To Believe The President 1:15

1M7 It’s The Lie 3:00

3M1 Did I Approve 0:20

3M3 T.V. Debate 0:30

3M4 Election Results 1:30

3M5 I Hate Losing 2:30

4M1 Mother’s Faithful Dog 1:00

4M2 Sound Like Mother 1:00

4M4 Football In Whittier 0:15

4M4R Football To Campaigning 0:45

4M7ABC Early Days (Pat And Dick Theme) Alternate Version 2:45

4M8 I Want A Divorce 1:20

7M1 Johnson's Farewell [unreleased opening] 0:35

8M7 Talking With Lincoln 1:20

9M1 Harold’s Death 1:15

10M3 Meeting On The Potomac 2:45

12M2 Family Chat 3:30

12M5+6 It’s The Lie 3:30

13M4 Hoover’s Death And The Jones Ranch 3:45

17M2 Nixon To The Hospital 1:15

17M4 Back To Life 0:45

21M1 Praying 2:15

Tape Machine Motif 0:30

 

Those are estimated timings based on the sheet music. That's approximately 38 minutes of unreleased underscore. The OST is actually surprisingly short at 47 minutes! So, definitely enough score to require 2 CDs, but with plenty of leftover space, so I imagine the OST assembly should be included, especially since it's been out of print for a number of years now.

 

There's also a couples minutes of unreleased source:

 

5M3/6M1 Camelot Overture [composed by Frederick Loewe] 2:00

Funeral Cortège Drums 0:15

 

43 minutes ago, crumbs said:

It's very much a proto-ROTS, yes! The ominous dark passages, the big brassy fanfares, the elegiac adagio-esque string passages, it's remarkably varied! 

 

The beefed-up brass section used for the most dramatic cues (Trailer, Love Field, The Miami Convention) also anticipates the prequel scores:

 

[Bayesian 1,353]

This score is pretty much at the top of my most-wished-for JW expansions. A great score mated to a great film. It would be a delight to see it expanded in 2022. Let’s not forget that a 27th anniversary is one of the special ones, right??