2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) vs. Interstellar (2014)

[John 2,032]

I'm already fairly certain of this poll's outcome, but I thought it would make for an interesting discussion.

 

Which sci-fi film and its respective score do you prefer; Stanley Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey or Christopher Nolan's Interstellar?

[The Illustrious Jerry 3,356]

That Interstellar music is neat.

[Holko 9,499]

43 minutes ago, John said:

I'm already fairly certain of this poll's outcome

 

Ya think?

 

 

OK, the one that's actually worth talking about a bit - Interstellar's score is pretty damn good, but it gets repetitive overall and it's mixed very weirdly, so it doesn't do well on the "makes better use of" part.

 

2001 is a legendary production in every single aspect, its use of music not the least.

The results of this poll will be quite handy in starting to build my ignore list

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

I adore the Interstellar score, but 2001's use of music is legendary.

[Dixon Hill 4,233]

Star Trek: Generations

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Yes!

[Disco Stu 15,495]

They say time is the fire in which we burn

[Dixon Hill 4,233]

Right now, Stu, my time is running out.  Kids'll be home soon.  

[Disco Stu 15,495]

Remember when Star Trek movies were about things?  When they told stories about adult emotions and concerns?  When they were sci-fi movies for grown ups?

[John 2,032]

Star Trek has emotion?

[Dixon Hill 4,233]

It's why I'm glad Nolan made the movie he did.  Someone has to keep trying.  

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

6 minutes ago, John said:

Star Trek has emotion?

 

Loads of it!

[Disco Stu 15,495]

4 minutes ago, John said:

Star Trek has emotion?

 

In especially the TNG-DS9-VOY era, its characters were real adults with agency and their own inner lives.  Often dealing with issues of loves, death, prejudice, society, religion, war, loneliness.

 

So yes, it does.

 

Also the holodeck was glitchy as fuck.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Bones had emotions too, dammit!

[Not Mr. Big 4,639]

AI

[John 2,032]

The holy trinity of sci-fi will always be E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial, 2001: A Space Odyssey, and The Empire Strikes Back.

[Quintus 5,399]

1: 2001: A Space Odyssey

 

2: Interstellar

[Disco Stu 15,495]

16 minutes ago, Stefancos said:

Bones had emotions too, dammit!

 

24th century Trek just had a more lived-in, relatable feel to it.

[Thor 7,473]

There would probably be no INTERSTELLAR without 2001 (and kudos to Nolan for restoring the latter to its former celluloid glory!), but they're both absolutely brilliant films. And scores. Still, I voted 2001 for film, and INTERSTELLAR for score.

[Dixon Hill 4,233]

1 hour ago, Not Mr. Big said:

AI

 

Another good choice. 

 

1 hour ago, Disco Stu said:

 

24th century Trek just had a more lived-in, relatable feel to it.

 

More realistic and relatable, you might say.  

[crocodile 7,984]

I reckon Interstellar is quite a good Star Trek film.

 

Karol

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

The plot is pretty much straight from a TNG episode, yes.

[crocodile 7,984]

Also the scene in which they talk about "love" seems like something they might be discussing in Trek. Plus the ethics and such.

 

Karol

[Quintus 5,399]

If I listen to the score, Interstellar should be some seminal work of brilliant and cerebral science fiction. But Nolan.

[crocodile 7,984]

28 minutes ago, Quintus said:

If I listen to the score, Interstellar should be some seminal work of brilliant and cerebral science fiction. But Nolan.

 

Karol

[Brundlefly 2,385]

Two excellent movies with excellent music. Period.

[Dixon Hill 4,233]

Wisdom!

[Koray Savas 2,251]

2001 for film, Interstellar for score. Cause “No Time For Caution” is an orgasmic marriage of image and sound. Nolan brings the human condition to sci-fi with rollercoaster emotion, heartache, and longing... all perfectly accentuated by Zimmer’s delicate score. Kubrick is a mastermind of aesthetic and the audiovisual language, constructing a grounded tale of immense scale, that elicits awe and wonder.

 

Both are masterpieces. 

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Interstellar is already forgotten. And in 50 years time no one is gonna bring out an "unrestored" version.

[Koray Savas 2,251]

Not really a barometer for “which film do you prefer?”

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

But it is if its supposed to be a masterpiece, as you seem to think.

[karelm 2,903]

The songs in interstellar are cute.

[Brundlefly 2,385]

3 hours ago, Stefancos said:

But it is if its supposed to be a masterpiece, as you seem to think.

Nolan has three categories of quality in his filmography:

 

***

Following

Batman Begins

****

Memento

Insomnia

Prestige

Inception

The Dark Knight Rises

*****

The Dark Knight

Interstellar

Dunkirk

 

The latter are masterpieces, all three. It is only partially true that it's relevant how long they will be remembered. After Hours by Martin Scorsese was already forgotten a few weeks after its release (or should I dare say after a few hours).

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

The Dark Knight Rises is his best film!

[John 2,032]

I recently rewatched The Dark Knight, and I couldn't help but feel that it's overall a pretty average movie elevated by Ledger's performance. I absolutely loved every minute that the Joker was on screen, but everything else... meh. It doesn't have any glaring issues, but I feel it could've been better in lots of ways.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Its a very....written movie. Isn't it. Everything is spelled out in dialogue.

[John 2,032]

Yes! It's rather dull for a lot of its runtime.

[Disco Stu 15,495]

I begrudge no one the art they respond to, but anyone who calls Dunkirk a genuine masterpiece.... well, they have very different ideas of aesthetic value from me.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Well, its Nolan...

[Glóin the Dark 1,219]

2001: A Space Odyssey is actually better than everything.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Yes!

[Dixon Hill 4,233]

Time again for the JWFan Nolan assessment then?

[Koray Savas 2,251]

5 hours ago, Stefancos said:

But it is if its supposed to be a masterpiece, as you seem to think.

It’s a personal opinion on a film, and answering a question about which I prefer, of which I said 2001! Whether it’ll be shown in cinemas 50 years from now has no bearing on how I judge the film against my filmic preferences. 

[Glóin the Dark 1,219]

My assessment: Nolan isn't (so far) as good as Kubrick.

 

The information content of that statement is pretty low, though...

[Naïve Old Fart 9,504]

2 hours ago, Glóin the Dark said:

2001: A Space Odyssey is actually better than everything.

 

Everything includes 2001. Are you saying that 2001 is better than itself?

[Holko 9,499]

It's 2001, of course it's even better than itself! It may be the one piece of media where I think every superlative is completely warranted.

[Glóin the Dark 1,219]

6 hours ago, Richard said:

Are you saying that 2001 is better than itself?

 

It's more than twice as good as itself, and more than three times as good as anything else.

[Naïve Old Fart 9,504]

8 hours ago, Holko said:

It's 2001, of course it's even better than itself! It may be the one piece of media where I think every superlative is completely warranted.

 

I agree, but exactly why is 2001 so good?

[Chen G. 3,944]

Because its the one avant-garde film that can also pass for entertainment (or, really, the other way around)...

 

I'm not the biggest fan, but I do like it more than Interstellar.

[Holko 9,499]

1 hour ago, Richard said:

 

but exactly why is 2001 so good?

 

I dunno, it's mf'in' 2001, that's why!

I haven't seen it in over a year, I think, which is something I will remedy shortly, collect my thoughts, and then can I try and muster up an answer.