leeallen01 2,133 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 This nicely describes the TLJ apologists in this thread. But hey, let's all be happy that it's Star Wars Celebration right now guys!!! I hope we get a sneak peak into the dumpster fire that will be ep9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Star Wars: Dumpster Fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 I was never interested in Star Wars until Disney bought it. Too nerdy for me. But Disney made it more mainstream and socially acceptable for me to like. And girl power! leeallen01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 I never went near it, either, until 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, dougie said: I was never interested in Star Wars until Disney bought it. Too nerdy for me. It's completely possible to like Star Wars without being nerdy. Star Trek on the other hand... 2 minutes ago, Chen G. said: I never went near it, either, until 2015. Didn't you watch the OT, containing some of JW's best scores, before 2015?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Nope. The only things I knew about Star Wars in my youth was the iconography of lightsabers, Darth Vader, Stormtroopers, the name Skywalker, the main theme, the Imperial March and the line "No, I am your father." These films were never a thing in my country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 You hadn't listened to most of the music either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: It's completely possible to like Star Wars without being nerdy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,647 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 20 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: I haven't heard of Star Wars: Book Club. Is it any good? Well it's better than the Zahn books! Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 17 minutes ago, Chen G. said: No. I have a feeling you're quite young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 You'd be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo 297 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 2 hours ago, leeallen01 said: STOP.WRITING.THE.FILM.FOR.THE.FILMMAKERS. If you have to keep saying the same thing over and over, it probably just means people don't agree with what you're saying. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 27 minutes ago, Chen G. said: You'd be wrong. So you were just late at discovering John Williams? That's OK. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,133 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 28 minutes ago, Fargo said: If you have to keep saying the same thing over and over, it probably just means people don't agree with what you're saying. Nope, it means people are not intelligent enough to understand, or refuse to because of their biases. Mattris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo 297 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 19 minutes ago, leeallen01 said: Nope, it means people are not intelligent enough to understand, or refuse to because of their biases. Ah, sir, you are a true connoisseur of intellectualism. leeallen01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Damn. I missed the last 3 pages of this thread yesterday. Summary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Bleh Bilbo and Ii2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 53 minutes ago, Fargo said: If you have to keep saying the same thing over and over, it probably just means people don't agree with what you're saying. There was no collusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 4 hours ago, leeallen01 said: TFA screwed it all up as well, of course. Why the hell didn't Anakin (who was shown to be able to be a force ghost) just show up to Kylo and say "dude, stop. I wasn't evil in the end. I sacrificed myself for Luke and destroyed the Sith. Stop being a dick already." Probably because the image of Vader is from the point of view of someone who idolized him in a time of confusion and self doubt. He probably latched onto this familial connection as a conviction in setting his path straight again - which was also being shaped by Snoke. Having trained under Luke, then having that trust and respect shattered, he turned to his darker past and found Vader as a kindred spirit. I also got the sense that perhaps having Anakin's presence after his death might've weakened his character in some way as we never really have a moment outside of perhaps him leaving his mother and her death later on where we are supposed to have any attachment to him. It would've been too little too late. Having Kylo idolize him and pray to his ruined helmet is also a neat way of having him idolize Anakin's past rather than his eventual redemption. At the end of the day, perhaps it's laziness on the part of the writers, or perhaps it's the strange nature of force ghosts, who like biblical figures, only choose to show up at their convenience for the sake of exposition or plot development. 2 hours ago, leeallen01 said: This nicely describes the TLJ apologists in this thread. But hey, let's all be happy that it's Star Wars Celebration right now guys!!! I hope we get a sneak peak into the dumpster fire that will be ep9 You've become a parody of @Mattris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,133 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 57 minutes ago, Arpy said: Probably because the image of Vader is from the point of view of someone who idolized him in a time of confusion and self doubt. He probably latched onto this familial connection as a conviction in setting his path straight again - which was also being shaped by Snoke. Having trained under Luke, then having that trust and respect shattered, he turned to his darker past and found Vader as a kindred spirit. I also got the sense that perhaps having Anakin's presence after his death might've weakened his character in some way as we never really have a moment outside of perhaps him leaving his mother and her death later on where we are supposed to have any attachment to him. It would've been too little too late. Having Kylo idolize him and pray to his ruined helmet is also a neat way of having him idolize Anakin's past rather than his eventual redemption. At the end of the day, perhaps it's laziness on the part of the writers, or perhaps it's the strange nature of force ghosts, who like biblical figures, only choose to show up at their convenience for the sake of exposition or plot development. Stop writing for the filmmakers. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo 297 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, leeallen01 said: Stop writing for the filmmakers. 5 hours ago, leeallen01 said: Classic case of writing the film for the filmmakers. Stop apologising for their failures. 5 hours ago, leeallen01 said: Again, you're writing the film for the filmmakers. 5 hours ago, leeallen01 said: STOP.WRITING.THE.FILM.FOR.THE.FILMMAKERS. Why are you doing this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Perhaps Arpy is a screenwriter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, Fargo said: Why are you doing this intelligence leeallen01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,133 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, Fargo said: Why are you doing this Because people keep making excuses for plot holes or writing inconsistency and narrative contradictions. If it's not in the film, then it didn't happen, but people love inventing things to explain away bad writing. They are essentially writing the film for the people who failed at writing it themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 The fact there is no force ghost Anakin is not bad writing. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ii2 210 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Demodex said: Damn. I missed the last 3 pages of this thread yesterday. Summary? Yeah. I missed three pages just in a few hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fargo 297 Posted April 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2019 Mattris, you madman. We are not worthy of you. Remco, SteveMc, Mattris and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remco 685 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Your musical analysis is still bs, but for the rest: bravo @Mattris. Mattris and Falstaft 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo 297 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Mattris is JJ Abrams, confirmed. Mattris and Remco 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Dammit, now we all have to apologize to Mattris. Mattris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 @Mattris, you crazy man! You semi-called it "No one's ever really gone" Mattris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Either that laugh is a red herring, for another flashback. Or Mattris guessed correctly. Mattris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Or it is Mattris! Mattris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,647 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Wait, are theories in this thread possibly coming true? What does this mean about my thoughts this morning about Yoda’s genitals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ii2 210 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 I don't know mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 They'll become true in your next dream, Mike! mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ii2 210 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 @Mattris we were wrong. but keep in mind, I was one of the only ones here who didn't call you a fool Mattris and Falstaft 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 I echo Remco's sentiment: barring all of the musical stuff, it seems like you got a good shot of having struck the right vein, Mattris. Remco 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 I thought for sure Mattris was wrong, but I have to say hearing that laugh again and seeing Ian show up on stage after the trailer was incredible. Mattris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,510 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 . Mattris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 What was Mattris' actual theory btw? That Rey would turn to the Dark side by the end? Some of us have been willing that to happen since TFA. I remember discussing it on here, while Mattris was still swimmin' around his dads balls. I still don't think Disney has the balls themselves to do it, mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Remind me where the teaser says Palps has anything to do with Rey, guys. A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,510 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 . Mattris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 You all just thought Mattris' Palpy returns theory was wrong because he hates women and social justice. Mattris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 I mean, I like Palpatine, so there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 He's a nice guy! A very sympathetic senator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 A lovely fella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,510 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 That smile can melt anyone's heart! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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