Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 On 5/27/2019 at 11:55 PM, Stefancos said: I hope people realise this was ironic hyperbole? Never! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 It is still the best post in this thread, and, if I take it at face value, possibly the only time me and Stefan will ever agree. If we ignore the fact that he was ironic, that is. 😂😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 George had very specific shots that he wanted to achieve, but it was extremely difficult to do using models on wire. mstrox and Unlucky Bastard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Our film does everything from the highest tech, digitally animated, digitally composit CGI shot, to little models on wires in front of photo backing. And everything in between! It goes from great exterior locations, we shot on the Bonneville Salt Flats with spectacular views where we had 170 trailers racing across the desert to these enormous sets we built here at Hughes Aircraft. mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 It's been so long since we've gotten newly enhanced versions of the movies. It was fun getting new edits every 7 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Larry O 115 Posted June 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 16, 2019 On 5/28/2019 at 12:27 AM, Arpy said: Someone shared this with me and thought I'd like it. I don't. It's also disheartening to read the YouTube comments and realize that we're fucked if this is how people wanted this duel to go. It's funny, the whole "Fans know best" thing really came to prominence as a response to Lucas continually revising the original trilogy in 1997, 2004, and 2011. And now Disney is in charge, and doesn't change anything, so the fans who have convinced themselves they know best have finally circled around.... to making their own ugly special editions of things. The circle is now complete.... The Illustrious Jerry, SteveMc and Nick Parker 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 It obviously needs more lens flares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted June 16, 2019 Author Share Posted June 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, Larry O said: .... to making their own ugly special editions of things. You callin’ Harmy’s transcendent “despecialized” fanedits ugly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 They look great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 The colours are not always great and the frankensteined nature shows a lot. Go Team Negative 1 (4k77, 4k83) and never look back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 37 minutes ago, Holko said: Go Team Negative 1 (4k77, 4k83) and never look back. Will that even fit on a USB stick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry O 115 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 48 minutes ago, John said: You callin’ Harmy’s transcendent “despecialized” fanedits ugly? look at the video quoted. Why would you think I was referencing a completely different set of videos whose whole point is to restore a theatrical edit? I'm confused as to why you would think I was talking about the despecialized editions when I mention "ugly special edition." they're called DE-SPECIALIZED. But yes, I prefer the film scan approach to fan preservation. Anyway, the point was haughty know-it-all fans became a real pain in the neck as a response to the Special Editions, and now we're at the point where they're basically making their own Special Editions, and they're inevitably worse. You either die the hero or live long enough to become the villain, basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Adywan is pretty damn good. shockwave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 The Special Editions are the definitive versions. Darth Porkins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 They should be the only versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Lucas already released the old versions on DVD. What more do these people want? Grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 And it's accurate to how it would look on a 4:3 Trinitron. These people are ingrates! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Star Wars fans have always been fickle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,510 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Fabulin said: OT-like versions of the prequel scenes. That would be a little more difficult, now wouldn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 There are more miniatures in this movie than maybe any two movies combined. We have cities to build, alien craft, alien creatures, it just runs the whole gamut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Instead of remaking West Side Story, Spielberg should remake the PT. Lucas could produce if he’d want, he likes messing around with his old stuff. Update the VFX, tighten up the story, highlight the drama, focus on the smaller, personal stories and let the big political developments happen in the background. Only question is... should JW write a new soundtrack??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, rough cut said: Instead of remaking West Side Story, Spielberg should remake the PT. Lucas could produce if he’d want, he likes messing around with his old stuff. Update the VFX, tighten up the story, highlight the drama, focus on the smaller, personal stories and let the big political developments happen in the background. Only question is... should JW write a new soundtrack??? Just....no! Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 The prequels are perfect. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Or how every thread changes into a Star Wars discussion ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 This isnt JWFan:Pro, Alex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Not only that, I thought it was the West Side Story thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 The West Side Story Disenchantment Thread The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 They could have danced more. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockwave 8 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 On 6/16/2019 at 2:03 PM, Holko said: Adywan is pretty damn good. I saw bits and pieces of both ANH & TESB but not the entirety unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 His ESB is fantastic. He's currently doing RotJ and remaking SW in HD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Is Adywan’s better than Harmy’s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Nah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 TN1's are better than everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Just watch the pre-97 VHS releases. They're close enough to how the films should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 But its still not the original theatrical presentation. Its nuts that the director/producer practically assassinated his own film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Adywan, TN1... So many versions! I had no idea. Soon you’ll tell me there’s a fan edit of The Phantom Menace that edits out all the stupid bits! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, rough cut said: Soon you’ll tell me there’s a fan edit of The Phantom Menace that edits out all the stupid bits! The Phantom Menace was also revised between editions! It deserves a proper presentation in its original form. On principal, any film should be available in the earliest form in which it was commercially shown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 The 90s CGI give the SE a charming quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Mos Eisley is much cooler in the Special Edition and actually feels like a spaceport. Bespin isn't just the same hallway over and over again. The Dewbacks actually move. The SEs are an improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 I love Luke screaming as he jumps down the tube in ESB. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 15 minutes ago, Dieter Stark said: Bespin isn't just the same hallway over and over again. For sure. I don't mind tweaked versions as a concept: Sir Ridley Scott basically built a career off of those. But the original theatrical cut of any one of his films is readily available, untouched. That's how you do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 8 hours ago, The Original said: The 90s CGI give the SE a charming quality. The CGI was even better than Jumanji. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockwave 8 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Only way to see ANH & TESB is to contact Adywan directly? Sorry folks would love to see both of his renditions but I couldn't find it via Google. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 hour ago, shockwave said: Only way to see ANH & TESB is to contact Adywan directly? Sorry folks would love to see both of his renditions but I couldn't find it via Google. You can't just find them via Google typically. You need to know where to look. The 4K projects are more readily available, and I would recommend those over Harmy's or Adywan's edits. I'm slowly working on Project 4K05 myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry O 115 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 It's also funny how secretive and weird all these fan-editors/restorers are about their stuff. They act like if they make the stuff available on forums they'll get arrested or whatever. Lucasfilm knows they're doing this. It's not a secret. They know exactly who all these people are and where they're making all this stuff available. The only people being inconvenienced by all these hoops the "community" is making everyone jump through are the people who would like to watch them. Almost all the edits and restorations you'd ever want to see are padlocked behind a private torrent tracker whose owners havent let anyone new access it in almost five years, I think. You have people spending thousands of dollars (and in Adywan's case, a full decade of his life) to make these things, and of course they're slapping their own names in the credits because why wouldn't they, of course someone who wants the uncut unaltered theatrical versions would love a tacky intro screen and altered credits - the whole point of these things is for fans to see them, and they refuse to actually make them available to anyone outside the same 50 folks on their 1 torrent tracker because they think Lucasfilm doesn't know who they all are already and couldn't bust them all this second if they actually cared that much. But they don't care! They really don't. So long as nobody tries to sell them, nobody cares. So far as almost anyone else is concerned, the entire scene is like a couple thousand weird old men with a very specific hangup they can't get past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 They'll eventually die off and only those who've seen and prefer the 2011 blu-ray version will remain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 We need a branching 1997, 2004 and 2011 version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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