publicist 4,643 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, crocodile said: To answer your question, there are some Marvel scores that are solid if not exactly marvelous. Captain America: The First Avenger, The Avengers, Elfman's portions of Avengers: Age of Ultron are all very entertaining. Ant-Man is quite fun too. I like main themes from Tyler's Iron Man 3 and Bates' Guardians of the Galaxy. And the last three might be the best of the lot (Thor: Ragnarok, Black Panther and Avengers: Infinity War). I'm not the target audience for sure, but i own exactly zero of these (i do know most of them). 'Black Panther' is probably the relative best one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewya 360 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 You are probably right. I don't care about any Marvel score at all either. I am probably only interested if they tap a competent composer like say Goldenthal. I do think Doyle's Thor contain some of my favourite Marvel material though even if it's hardly great music. Black Panther was decent and one of the better ones yes, but still nothing I would listen to again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 There was a time when I would get ecstatic whenever I found a new Marvel session leak. I edited them all for a better listening, but by the time I got around to listen to them, I couldn't be bothered, that's when I realised they're not that good and deleted them all. Dark times were those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 I relisten to my favorite five or six tracks from Black Panther happily. Great score. Silvestri’s was the biggest disappointment of the year for me. mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Great score. What's your benchmark for a GREAT score? It must be rather low? Fabulin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 25 minutes ago, Stefancos said: What's your benchmark for a GREAT score? It must be rather low? It could be I'm using the word "great" more liberally than you would, that I use different language to describe the best of the best. It could be that I like the Black Panther a lot more than you do. Probably both. Who cares, really? I find semantic arguments duller than dull. I'm just getting across that I really like that score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 I haven't heard Black Panther. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,988 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 It's really good. But many find its 96-minute album bit too taxing. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 OST's run ridiculously long nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,988 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Conceptually, Black Panther isn't necessarily anything new...mixing western orchestra with African-style vocals, electronics and percussion. But it is executed rather well. It's a very entertaining score both in the film and on album. It doesn't really have something ypu might call a big Black Panther theme. It's more of a percussive fanfare with his name being stated on talking drums and chanted by chorus. More tribal, if that makes sense. There are some other thematic ideas attached to it. It's quite well done. @Stefancos check out the end credits suite: Karol Disco Stu and Pieter Boelen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 I find "Glory to Bast" to be a better summation of the main ideas of the score than the end titles personally. I love the theme presentation that starts with (I think) finger piano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,988 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 One thing I regret is that Pants doesn't have as strong of a theme as Creed. Now that is a badass score from Goransson (I'm sure Conti wouldn't object): Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 We like to talk about composers that would be great for Bond scores around here. Powell is often suggested, and he would be fantastic, but I also think based on Creed and Panther that Göransson would be a really good choice for Bond as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mstrox 6,647 Posted June 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2018 15 minutes ago, JoeinAR said: Who? Bond. He's a fictional secret agent from England. Once, Pieter Boelen and Koray Savas 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 No this low rent composer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 You didn't like Black Panther? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,647 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 All composers are new sometime. I'm happy that Marvel is taking a leap with somebody new-ish, especially since their best score (and none of their scores are classics, unfortunately) came from a relative unknown, Göransson, And some of their worst scores came from established names like Silvestri, Doyle, and Giacchino. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 All 3 Silvestri scores are solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,647 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Stefancos said: All 3 Silvestri scores are solid. For me, they all have brief glimpses of greatness lost in late-era Silvestri action blandness - especially his two Avengers scores. I have nothing against Silvestri, and really liked his Ready Player One. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 What does it matter who does the background noise? It's not like you can hear any music with that punch and kick racket going on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,988 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 1 hour ago, mstrox said: For me, they all have brief glimpses of greatness lost in late-era Silvestri action blandness - especially his two Avengers scores. I have nothing against Silvestri, and really liked his Ready Player One. People seem to think of Silvestri as this sort of a great genius who lost his mojo. To be honest, I don't think he has changed at all in the past 30+ years. His scores were never better or worse than they are now. Karol Yavar Moradi and Once 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,590 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 I think Silvestri used to be overrated and now he's not really underrated...just...rated. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,988 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 He's not really a composer known for his subtlety or great intellectual complexities. He's...Silvestri. By buying his music you know pretty much exactly what you're getting into. I don't mean is a criticism really. It's just the way it is. Karol Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 His scores used to be entertaining. Now they are boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,988 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: His scores used to be entertaining. Now they are boring. I think you just got older. They are exactly the same. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,647 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 I think his low-key scores are lovely. Things like Father of the Bride, Forrest Gump, etc. His bigger scores really depend on the themes for me. He's strong with themes, somewhat less strong on action. If he writes a few catchy themes and makes good use of them, I'm all for it. I like his Back to the Future scores for that reason, although they lean so hard on the themes that their full programs are often a bit repetitive. His Avengers scores are on the other end of the spectrum for me where, while the themes are pretty good, they aren't really utilized heavily enough to give the score a backbone. Lots of loud action music which plays as generic to me. Something in between like The Mummy Returns hits the sweet spot where it's full of good themes utilized well so they don't wear out their welcome for me. Ready Player One got close to this too. Pieter Boelen and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Judge Dredd Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 5 hours ago, Disco Stu said: I relisten to my favorite five or six tracks from Black Panther happily. Great score. Which ones are those? 4 hours ago, Disco Stu said: I find "Glory to Bast" to be a better summation of the main ideas of the score than the end titles personally. I love the theme presentation that starts with (I think) finger piano The theme from that track is easily my favourite of the score! Really, really enjoyable. I wonder what it represents. It isn't the main theme, but I reckon it should be. 29 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said: I think Silvestri used to be overrated and now he's not really underrated...just...rated. Silvestri at his best is really pretty darn good. But he's not always at his best; not even when he really should be. That makes his "average" scores all the more disappointing; because we all know they COULD have been better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Mouse Hunt is better than any of the nonsense mentioned here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,590 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 That's one of my favorite Silvestri scores in-film, I must admit. Tons of fun. Would most likely buy a Varese Deluxe Edition. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Predator 2 is as good as Silvestri's gonna get, folks! Might as well get used to it! publicist and Yavar Moradi 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 I like Richie Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 20 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I like Richie Rich The first track is really fun for sure! Never remembered much of the others. 54 minutes ago, kaseykockroach said: Mouse Hunt is better than any of the nonsense mentioned here. Yep, fun one too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Just now, Pieter_Boelen said: The first track is really fun for sure! Never remembered much of the others. Mostly more of the same. Entertaining to put on if you're in the mood for something light. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 On 6/18/2018 at 9:34 AM, Stefancos said: You didn't like Black Panther? I loved it but pinar t. is not the listed composer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrayodiBA 517 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 You can hear the score right at the beginning until 07:50 What do you think? I love how the brass sounds Howard shore-y LOTR-y, especially in the beginning. But not a great theme, sadly. A missed opportunity. And i quite hate how the music sounds just like every superhero score (duh..?) Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 I liked the opening minute, and some of it reminds me of Elfman's Spider-Man ostinato. Little hints of synth keyboards too that probably go with the 80s setting, but so far I'm liking what I'm hearing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,340 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 90's actually, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Sounds like a Marvel score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,833 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Someone managed to isolate the main theme I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 On 6/18/2018 at 1:58 PM, Stefancos said: I haven't heard Black Panther. Is there any relationship to the Pink Panther? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrayodiBA 517 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 19 minutes ago, Alex said: Someone managed to isolate the main theme I think Becuase it is a captain MARVEL score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,473 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 4 hours ago, PrayodiBA said: Becuase it is a captain MARVEL score! Both are pretty good but I maybe prefer Tyler's version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 I really like Tyler's Iron Man 3 score. Its fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,988 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 8 hours ago, JoeinAR said: I really like Tyler's Iron Man 3 score. Its fun His theme encapsulates Tony Stark perfectly. And it is one of the few Marvel themes that you can actually remember. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Obi 404 Posted March 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 6, 2019 On 5 mars 2019 at 9:21 AM, Alex said: Someone managed to isolate the main theme I think Not bad. Good 6 notes theme at the end, I expect more development in the score. Here an interview (Superman inside) form the carpet red: I made some covers... Mr. Who, The Illustrious Jerry and John 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potterhead 42 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 When does the soundtrack come out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 18 hours ago, Obi said: I made some covers... Awesome. Great work as always @Obi! Obi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Do I have the right to criticize this as a white heterosexual man, or is it both racist and sexist if I said it sounds as generic as they come? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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