Popular Post Jay 37,359 Posted June 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2018 Quote Original Motion Picture Score Jerry Goldsmith UPC: 888072062498 Release Date: 06/18/2018 Limited Edition Of 3000 Copies CDs will begin shipping the week of June 18 $ 24.98 We miss so much those special weekends in the 80s and 90s when John Williams and Jerry Goldsmith each had a new film opening. It just didn’t get any better. The two masters of the period complement each other so well. These days having a new Deluxe Edition by each of them in the same CD Club batch is as close as we can get to that. We have received so many requests over the years for a Deluxe Edition of Jerry Goldsmith’s score for Joe Dante’s 1998 film Small Soldiers. An epic action/adventure score with a heroic march, Goldsmith had a lot of fun with this film and it shows. This is another epic expansion and remaster. Our 40th Anniversary year and the 20th anniversary of the film seemed like the perfect time to revisit the film that could be considered the first, edgier version of Toy Story. When teenager Alan (Gregory Smith) buys a set of Commando Elite action figures, he's unaware that they have been programmed with military technology. The toys, including leader Chip (Tommy Lee Jones), spring to life and start taking their directives seriously, beginning by "killing" their enemies, the toy Gorgonites. But Archer (Frank Langella) and the Gorgonites won't go down without a fight. Alan gets caught in the middle of the war, as does his neighbor and crush, Christy (Kirsten Dunst).THE FILM SCORE 1. Globotech (:58) 2. He’s Here / Chip Hazard / Just Toys (1:00) 3. The Assembly Line (2:44) 4. Alan’s Town (1:25) 5. The Boxes / Off The Truck (2:12) 6. Gorgonite Scum / Almost Gold (1:36) 7. Roll Call (4:52) 8. Alan And Archer (3:01) 9. Destruction / Branded (3:01) 10. Prepare For Assault (3:48) 11. Special Design (Extended Version) (2:38) 12. Talk To Me / Not Found (3:07) 13. Team Gorgonite (1:10) 14. Phone Wires / Gorgon / Top Of The Stairs (1:12) 15. Stand Down / Negative Target (1:52) 16. The New Army / Brain Chip (1:14) 17. Bombshelley (Franz Waxman) (1:21) 18. The Wind (1:01) 19. The Gwendys / Terms Of Surrender (1:50) 20. The Trojan Box / Rocket Entry (1:45) 21. Gwendys Attack (1:47) 22. This Is Fun (1:26) 23. Toast / Down The River / Lost Battle (1:21) 24. I’m Scared (2:04) 25. Negotiations (1:10) 26. Fire In The Hole (3:45) 27. Trust Me (4:07) 28. No Prisoners (4:38) 29. Chip Dies / Cleaning Up (1:39) 30. Off To Gorgon (4:44) ADDITIONAL MUSIC 31. Globotech (Alternate) (:55) 32. Almost Gold (Alternate) (1:15) 33. The New Army / Brain Chip (Alternates) (1:51) 34. Toast / Lost Battle (Alternates) (1:03) 35. Ride Of The Valkyries (Richard Wagner) (:40) 36. Also Sprach Zarathustra (Richard Strauss) (1:30) https://www.varesesarabande.com/products/small-soldiers-the-deluxe-edition Holko, Unlucky Bastard and Pieter Boelen 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Link leads to Williams' Cowboys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Never saw or heard it. Any good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Hey, that's pretty brilliant news! Even the footwarmer had quite some substantial stuff missing, if I recall. And it was only two days ago that I was joking about this one, not believing it would actually happen right now! On 14/06/2018 at 12:48 AM, Corellian2019 said: There's a guessing game going on at the Jerry Goldsmith Online Facebook page, with the admin encouraging fans to "think smaller" than Air Force One, Small Soldiers, or U.S. Marshals On 16/06/2018 at 11:30 AM, Pieter_Boelen said: Tiny Soldiers, then? Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 The footwarmer had the entire final act of the film missing...over 12 minutes of music I think. This is over twice as long as the original Varese release, even excluding alternates! Also, Varese corrected the price to $19.98. An incredible release but I must confess I'm even MORE excited about getting The Cowboys complete! Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Oh I got charged $24.98 on PayPal. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, crocodile said: Oh I got charged $24.98 on PayPal. Karol Is that not because of the shipping cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 TOOK EM' LONG ENOUGH That's that anyhow. This was the last Goldsmith expansion I was wanting. All of the Dante-Goldsmiths are now ideally presented (no, Matinee doesn't need a complete release). Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, Muldoon said: Is that not because of the shipping cost? No, it's their mistake. I just got an e-mail they will refund me $5 so it's all good. I will still get charged customs when it gets here, of course. So there's that. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Oh, weird. Glad they're on top of the refunds at least! In any event, I'm sure I'll pick this up eventually. The Cowboys will be enough for me for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 And the refund has gone through already. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 This is it. Pretty much every Goldsmith I was wanting complete/expanded is officially out. All of the Dante-Goldsmith scores are now ideally represented (trust me, Matinee and Looney Tunes don't need expansions). It's a bizarre sensation...I don't know what to make of it. Gremlins was the very first film score I ever bought on CD. With this, now it's like the end of a chapter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 I'm sure they editorialized this with care, but the 'Gwendys Attack' alternate is missing (and with all the alternates from the boot this would probably be a 2 CD set). Anyway, bought. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Don't trust kaseykockroach, folks. I've heard the complete scores for Matinee and Looney Tunes and there's a lot of wonderful unreleased music (both complete scores are in the 70 minute range). Looney Tunes in particular feels like a jumbled mess on the existing Varese album, which is exacerbated by the fact that it is missing any sort of conclusion because Debney's quarter hour of music was omitted. 3 minutes ago, publicist said: I'm sure they editorialized this with care, but the 'Gwendys Attack' alternate is missing (and with all the alternates from the boot this would probably be a 2 CD set). Anyway, bought. Good to know. I'll hold onto my footwarmer until it's all sorted out. I'm glad I did that for Executive Decision in particular, because they did indeed leave off a key alternate (very different from the film cue) on that. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Trrruuuusst iinnn mmmeee... Yooou cccan sleep, ssssafe and ssssound, knowing Goldssssmith is arrooouunndd... Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Seriously, 98% of Goldsmith scores play better in complete form. You should know that! Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 I'd say more like 70%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 'Matinee' is back-burner Goldsmith and i don't even need that much from the old Varése, 'Looney Tunes' plays well as it is. But trust Yavar to fill Varése's coffers time and time again.. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Leviathan's album is also just fine as it be. Any extra music would just be padding in-between the highlights we already have. Not everything needs to be 75 minutes, chaps! Except sex. Which is to say, the chapter on needed Goldsmith expansions is closed as far as I'm concerned (though I bet Mom and Dad Save the World complete would be fun, I'm not in any rush). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post #SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2018 We need a definitive release for Poltergeist II. Yavar Moradi, Kasey Kockroach and mstrox 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 What are you basing your Leviathan opinion on? Have you investigated the unreleased music? DeputyRiley at FSM did and it sounds pretty interesting IMO: http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=110196&archive=0 "I very much look forward to the day that Varese Sarabande decides to expand their original 39min 40sec album, because upon viewing the film recently I discovered that there are over 21 minutes of unreleased music from the film. This brings the entire film score to just over 61 minutes, which would make for a nice expanded and remastered CD, and certainly film score fans would enjoy this one, particularly if similar clean-up work can be done as was done recently on the Warlock expansion. The unreleased material does not expand upon the main title thematic material or the lighter moments, but mostly focuses on mystery, action, and horror, with further exploration of sound design, unique electronics and monstrous orchestral dexterity. Highlights include the music from the scene where Peter Weller and Richard Crenna’s character first view the footage from the sunken Russian ship, where mysterious woodwinds play with synths to create an unsettling atmosphere. More unease is found in the scene when Crenna explains the genetic alteration theory, Goldsmith continuing to push all the right buttons with his creative sounds and unusual compositions. The cue I call “Still Alive”, underscoring the scene where the crew members discover that bodies they thought were dead are in fact still moving, is terrifying in its orchestral fury, before settling into an interesting metallic percussive prepared piano sound that I found really cool." COMPLETE FILM VERSION SCORE RUNTIME (INCLUDING FILM MIX OF “CAN WE FIX IT”) + CD MIX OF “CAN WE FIX IT”: 64min 40secComplete Score Cue Titles and Cue Times (unreleased cues named by me for the sake of identification):+ – previously unreleased (or includes previously unreleased material) 1. Underwater Camp (3:11)2. Decompression (3:18)3. Situation Under Control (1:45)4. Doc’s History (1:08) +5. Discovery (6:00) + – (extended from CD version featuring unreleased opening 30 seconds)6. Deceased (0:32) +7. Captain’s Log (1:58) +8. Shared Vodka (0:33) +9. One of Us10. Deadly Hangover (1:20) +11. Genetic Alteration (2:08) +12. Lesions (0:34) +13. Crew Exam (1:48) +14. It’s Growing (3:12)15. Hasty Funeral (1:21) +16. Still Alive (1:37) +17. Regeneration (1:24) +18. The Flask (0:30) +19. No Trust (0:41) +20. The Body Within Pt. 1 (2:06) – (CD track split)21. Searching for Williams (0:41) +22. Power Saw Surgery (0:36) +23. Setting a Trap (1:14) +24. The Body Within Pt. 2 (2:30) – (CD track split)25. Cobb Transforms (1:10) +26. Doc Worsens (0:50) +27. First Watch (1:08) +28. Can We Fix It (3:33) – (film mix – synth bass hits at beginning of cue absent)29. Too Hot (3:25)30. Escape Bubbles (5:34)31. A Lot Better (3:30) Mom and Dad Save the World complete IS a ton of fun, but sadly the unmentionable has pretty terrible sound quality (only The Lonely Guy boot sounds worse)...I would be there DAY ONE for an expansion. The Varese Goldsmith that is less in need of an expansion for me is Rudy. I know everyone loves it, but it's really a very simple score and the missing cues are really just very similar variations on the same material, with nothing truly unique missing. Of course if Varese releases it complete I will buy it...even though I have the complete isolated score track. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 I've seen the movie. I own it, since I have a TV recording of Joe Bob Briggs presenting it on Monstervision. So... mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Stefancos said: We need a definitive release for Poltergeist II. 'An important new source presumed lost was unearthed by us, by sheer accident! A night-and-day revelation compared to all older releases!! For only 29.95 the REAL Poltergeist II will be yours!!!' Yavar Moradi and Kasey Kockroach 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Joe Renzetti's sad. No one cares about Poltergeist III. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Just now, publicist said: 'An important new source presumed lost was unearthed by us, by sheer accident! A night-and-day revelation compared to all older releases!! For only 29.95 the REAL Poltergeist II will be yours!!!' "We swear it is the last one" Karol Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, kaseykockroach said: Joe Renzetti's sad. No one cares about Poltergeist III. At least it works great as LP cover. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 By the way, I really like Poltergeist II. But I can't bring myself to buying the new Intrada set. The previous one sounded good enough to me. Karol Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 55 minutes ago, kaseykockroach said: This was the last Goldsmith expansion I was wanting. No Mulan?!? Yavar Moradi and A. A. Ron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 I would NOT buy Poltergeist II again...for anyone wondering, I'm not that crazy. In fact I was so happy with the Kritzerland that I have yet to pick up the Intrada (but probably will eventually, mostly because of the nicer cover art/notes...and of course that unreleased alternate). Overall though I think the score pales in comparison to the original. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Just now, Pieter_Boelen said: No Mulan?!? Ehh, sure. I assume it'll be years before that release ever happens. Years! Probably decades! And yes, I'm deliberately trying to jinx it so it gets released this year. A. A. Ron and Pieter Boelen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 1 minute ago, crocodile said: By the way, I really like Poltergeist II. But I can't bring myself to buying the new Intrada set. The previous one sounded good enough to me. The first release was an abomination. But the 1993 cd by Intrada ran 53 minutes and was perfect. Even the covers got worse after that (for whatever reason i am cover-fixated today). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said: I would NOT buy Poltergeist II again...for anyone wondering, I'm not that crazy. In fact I was so happy with the Kritzerland that I have yet to pick up the Intrada (but probably will eventually, mostly because of the nicer cover art/notes...and of course that unreleased alternate). Overall though I think the score pales in comparison to the original. Yavar Thankfully, it's so vastly different that I have no impulse to compare the two. The opening is actually one of my favourite Goldsmith cues ever. Regrettably, whenever I listen to War Horse I keep thinking of this: Karol Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Disappointed but not surprised that WAR WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR wasn't included. Oh well, guess I'll add it in myself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,359 Posted June 18, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2018 Jeff Bond says: Here's a score I shamefully dismissed on its original release as just a bunch of arrangements of "When Johnny Comes Marching Home." The expanded release is a revelation and It's amazing how much original thematic material Goldsmith builds into this score (including multi-level themes for both the good and bad guy action figures, a love theme, a corporate CEO theme, and some wonderfully uplifting, mystical music for the dawning of awareness for the "Gorgonites" and their search for a homeland) along with fun movie references including to Franz Waxman's Bride of Frankenstein score and more. Wildly enjoyable, and again thanks to Bob Townson for letting me write the booklet for this release. https://www.facebook.com/jeffc.bond/posts/10214601020872707 Fancyarcher, Yavar Moradi, Kasey Kockroach and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 2 hours ago, kaseykockroach said: Ehh, sure. I assume it'll be years before that release ever happens. Years! Probably decades! And yes, I'm deliberately trying to jinx it so it gets released this year. Appreciate the effort! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Finally! This is a really good Varese batch. Pieter Boelen and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 They have to make up for years of mediocre releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 They have to make up for releasing Splash and Bubbles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 FUCK YES!!! SMALL SOLDIERS!!! There you go 30 minute OST! Varese, I love you! Continue to eliminate the 30 minute OSTs at that high speed and we will be friends again! Finally, I have the chance to get into this score. It was just not possible with only a little excerpt being released. Yavar Moradi and Pieter Boelen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Brundlefly said: Finally, I have the chance to get into this score. It was just not possible with only a little excerpt being released. If you thought that about the original 30 minute album for this, imagine what it's like for The Lonely Guy, only having 5 minutes of score (two cues) commercially released! I think you'll be impressed... Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Yavar Moradi said: If you thought that about the original 30 minute album for this, imagine what it's like for The Lonely Guy, only having 5 minutes of score (two cues) commercially released! I think you'll be impressed... I don't know Lonely Guy at all, but I tend to buy the newest releases as soon as they're available, so maybe I'll grab that one too, when it will be released. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Display Name 60 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 This is amazing! Period! The new cover art is not amazing! Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 So the bold titles are what is NOT new: 1. Globotech (:58) 2. He’s Here / Chip Hazard / Just Toys (1:00) 3. The Assembly Line (2:44) 4. Alan’s Town (1:25) 5. The Boxes / Off The Truck (2:12) 6. Gorgonite Scum / Almost Gold (1:36) 7. Roll Call (4:52) 8. Alan And Archer (3:01) 9. Destruction / Branded (3:01) 10. Prepare For Assault (3:48) 11. Special Design (Extended Version) (2:38) 12. Talk To Me / Not Found (3:07) 13. Team Gorgonite (1:10) 14. Phone Wires / Gorgon / Top Of The Stairs (1:12) 15. Stand Down / Negative Target (1:52) 16. The New Army / Brain Chip (1:14) 17. Bombshelley (Franz Waxman) (1:21) 18. The Wind (1:01) 19. The Gwendys / Terms Of Surrender (1:50) 20. The Trojan Box / Rocket Entry (1:45) 21. Gwendys Attack (1:47) 22. This Is Fun (1:26) 23. Toast / Down The River / Lost Battle (1:21) 24. I’m Scared (2:04) 25. Negotiations (1:10) 26. Fire In The Hole (3:45) 27. Trust Me (4:07) 28. No Prisoners (4:38) 29. Chip Dies / Cleaning Up (1:39) 30. Off To Gorgon (4:44) Holy shit, that gap between track 11 and track 24 is a fucking HUGE gap! Apparently, the second and the third third were not well presented on the OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Hmm...judging from the track list it appears the cue "Chip's Orders" or the cue that plays before "Destruction" in the film with the reprise from the 1941 music isn't present. Which has surfaced though... I think "Roll Call" is probably the original cue before being revised in the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 6 hours ago, Brundlefly said: So the bold titles are what was NOT previously unreleased Aren't those the ones that ARE released? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Read it again, it's a really backwards way to say they are the released ones. The bold ones are the ones NOT to have the "previously unreleased" tag. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Now it's easier to understand. The cover is indeed a bit weird. Btw, the last 30 second of Assembly Line also seem to be unreleased, but Special Design is not longer than the version on the OST, so possibly they misplaced the "(Extended Version)". Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 15 hours ago, publicist said: 'Matinee' is back-burner Goldsmith and i don't even need that much from the old Varése, 'Looney Tunes' plays well as it is. But trust Yavar to fill Varése's coffers time and time again.. You were the one who advised me to get the complete Chain Reaction. 15 hours ago, Yavar Moradi said: Seriously, 98% of Goldsmith scores play better in complete form. You should know that! At least most scores are better in complete form than in the chopped up OST form. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 40 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: You were the one who advised me to get the complete Chain Reaction. What has that got to do with 'Matinee' or 'Looney Tunes'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Both are scores by Jerry Goldsmith? Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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