Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 The Red Pony isn’t very good I’m sad to say. Sounds good but pretty uninteresting thematically. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Jerry Goldsmith's 60's/70's Golden Age is B-O-R-I-N-G! Give me The Mummy, Mulan, or Mr. Baseball any day Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Oh I shan’t follow you down that road. I love so much music he wrote in that period. Just not Red Pony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, Not Mr. Big said: Jerry Goldsmith's 60's/70's Golden Age is B-O-R-I-N-G! Give me The Mummy, Mulan, or Mr. Baseball any day Has Planet of the Apes been rerecorded? I'd love to hear a more modern sound on it, I think any corniness from stuff like all the xylophones would be rectified with better engineering. Brundlefly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Freud is brilliant! Indebted to Bartok it may be, but still brilliant. Divorce it from the Alien music debacle in your mind if you can. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Divorce it from the Alien music debacle in your mind if you can. Open your miiiiinndd. Open your miiiiiinnddd. Open....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted July 4, 2018 Author Share Posted July 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Not Mr. Big said: Jerry Goldsmith's 60's/70's Golden Age is B-O-R-I-N-G! Give me The Mummy, Mulan, or Mr. Baseball any day The Mummy and Mulan are great! But The Sand Pebbles and The Wind and the Lion are also great! Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Far greater when you look beyond your usual faux-ethnic Hollywood fix for workout purposes. Goldsmith at his best always strived for new ways to express himself and certainly transcended the fun romp that is 'The Wind and the Lion' with his sophisticated wedding of americana and oriental idioms. 'The Letter' might not be brilliant at first sight but if you watch the movie, which juxtaposes Brian Keith's Wind with Connery's Raisuli while the musical playfully weaves in and out their themes/idioms - far beyond the call of duty, especially if you compare it with his bold later scores. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 3 hours ago, Brundlefly said: The Mummy and Mulan are great! But The Sand Pebbles and The Wind and the Lion are also great! Agreed. RAISULLI ATTACKS: oh...my...goodness!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted July 4, 2018 Author Share Posted July 4, 2018 2 hours ago, publicist said: Far greater when you look beyond your usual faux-ethnic Hollywood fix for workout purposes. Goldsmith at his best always strived for new ways to express himself and certainly transcended the fun romp that is 'The Wind and the Lion' with his sophisticated wedding of americana and oriental idioms. 'The Letter' might not be brilliant at first sight but if you watch the movie, which juxtaposes Brian Keith's Wind with Connery's Raisuli while the musical playfully weaves in and out their themes/idioms - far beyond the call of duty, especially if you compare it with his bold later scores. Agreed. Thematically The Mummy is quite a mess. That there is rarely a connection between objectively reasoned admiration and pure emotional enjoyment should be common knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 I prefer Tora! Tora! Tora! over Patton. I don't understand why the latter is that popular. However, the former's blend of japanese and atonal rythm-based music, its anomalous instrumentation and the occasional detuning is far more gripping in my opinion, although it's weird as shit (even weirder than Link and Logan's Run). I consider 100 Rifles one of Goldsmith's greatest efforts. (Is that unpopular at all?) Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 27 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: I consider 100 Rifles one of Goldsmith's greatest efforts. (Is that unpopular at all?) Not unpopular, but probably, and hitherto, unsaid. 29 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: I prefer Tora! Tora! Tora! over Patton. I don't understand why the latter is that popular. However, the former's blend of japanese and atonal rythm-based music, its anomalous instrumentation and the occasional detuning is far more gripping in my opinion, although it's weird as shit (even weirder than Link and Logan's Run). I like both, but, like you, I'd pick TORA! TORA! TORA! over PATTON... just. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Anyone else like Criminal Law and Mr Baseball? Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 CRIMINAL LAW, yes. I've not heard MR. BASEBALL. Any love for RENT-A-COP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 10 hours ago, Richard said: Any love for RENT-A-COP? It's quite cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Best score he ever wrote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Anyone else think pre ponytail Jerry had a charming handsomeness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 He was a good looking guy both with and without, to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Is Sgt. Benton his twin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,052 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 On 7/4/2018 at 4:51 PM, Disco Stu said: The Red Pony isn’t very good I’m sad to say. Sounds good but pretty uninteresting thematically. Try the Copland version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 On 8/25/2018 at 4:53 PM, Steve McQueen said: He was a good looking guy both with and without, to me. Cigarette? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 TRIGGRRED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Am I the only person who thinks Carol Goldsmith is the hottest composer's wife ever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Anyone else think James Horner's wife (ex-wife?) looks like Celine Dion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Enya is the most voluptuous composer of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Hehehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 I don’t see any controversial opinions in this thread. Weak. “The Sand Pebbles is not my thing.” Ooohh so edgy. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 3 hours ago, Blumenkohl said: I don’t see any controversial opinions in this thread. Weak. My comment was pretty controversial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 11 hours ago, kaseykockroach said: Enya is the most voluptuous composer of all time. Isn't she quite thin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 On 8/25/2018 at 9:40 AM, Brundlefly said: I prefer Tora! Tora! Tora! over Patton. What do you think of TORA! TORA! TORA!'s little cousin, THE SAND PEBBLES? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 44 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Isn't she quite thin? Yet her heart is unbelievably massive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted March 29, 2019 Author Share Posted March 29, 2019 Out of the Goldsmith western scores that I already know the better half originally remained completely unreleased for decades and the scores from the "worse" half all got OSTs right away: 100 Rifles Rio Lobo Take a Hard Ride Rio Conchos - no OSTs at all! Hour of the Gun Bandolero! Stagecoach Bad Girls - immediate OSTs for all of them! If I were insane I would guess it's a conspiracy. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,052 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Are you implying you're not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 The Edge has weird clipping distortion in the track The Ravine on both the OST and the LLL. Anyone else confirm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,593 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 56 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: Out of the Goldsmith western scores that I already know the better half originally remained completely unreleased for decades and the scores from the "worse" half all got OSTs right away: 100 Rifles Rio Lobo Take a Hard Ride Rio Conchos - no OSTs at all! Hour of the Gun Bandolero! Stagecoach Bad Girls - immediate OSTs for all of them! If I were insane I would guess it's a conspiracy. I do like the top half better, but I like Hour of the Gun and Bandolero about as much as those four. I'll add Wild Rovers to your list, which received an album re-recording at the time of the film like Hour of the Gun did. A lot of people rate Wild Rovers as Jerry's best western score but I just don't get it. Too much of it is variations on an old folk song called "Goodbye Old Paint" which Jerry didn't write, and just as with The River Wild I would have far preferred the score be dominated by an original Goldsmith composition. I like Wild Rovers fine but I think I rate it lower than Stagecoach and Bad Girls, to be honest. I probably need to see the film to appreciate it more (The Ballad of Cable Hogue is great in film although maybe my least favorite Goldsmith western if one is judging just based on the album listen) but it would seem to fit your pattern. Cable Hogue doesn't, though. Lonely Are the Brave is not only my favorite Goldsmith western score, but favorite Goldsmith feature film score. That one didn't get released until many decades after the film. I also adore The Red Pony, through and through, and Varese premiered that on CD after Lonely. One Little Indian is flat out awesome after editing out a little jokey mickey-mousing on the Lawrence of Arabia theme...no OST. Breakheart Pass I'd probably place in the lower half of Goldsmith western scores due to the underscore so maybe it doesn't fit your pattern (unless you count the bootleg LP that was produced)...but that main theme is so badass. I also really like Jerry's first two western feature scores, Black Patch and Face of a Fugitive. Sadly we're still waiting on those to get their first release! And so I must once again share this PSA and ask everyone to listen and vote: http://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/813340-vote-goldsmith-for-kickstarter Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 I take back what I said about Basic Instinct. I first heard it through the Quartet release, and didn't realize until recently that I found it so boring because it was a 72-minute listen! I played the OST presentation on a whim today, and now I'm liking the score a lot more. 44 minutes was all a score like this needed. Also dig he saves my favorite cue "Roxy Loses" for the end. All the complete score did was add more padding in-between the highlights. Yawn. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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