Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Do you think Jerry Goldsmith is overrated on this forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Nah. He is rated pretty accurately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 I'm not familiar with too many of his works, even just in-movie, but what I know perfectly justifies his rating. Which score do most people hold as his magnum opus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewya 360 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Nah, he is perfectly rated as one of the best ever (top 10 at least, top 5 is debatable) I think. Chinatown remains his best work, is on par with Williams's finest work and one of the top 25 film scores of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,508 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 You can't say "One of the b-", oh, never mind. Answer to the question: FUCK, NO!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mstrox 6,647 Posted July 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2018 Voted yes. In my years of blind buying scores (before mortgage and child), I picked up a whole ton of Goldsmith scores, and very few of them did much for me. Maybe just something broken in my brain, but that's that. SteveMc, Jurassic Shark and Taikomochi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 A bit overrated, perhaps. Only The Blue Max and The Russia House have really fired up my synapses. I do respect the length and breadth of his output, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,647 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 As well as the girth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Hatred takes more energy than its worth and is thus best reserved only for matters where it's truly warranted, but I do hold intense contempt for the term "overrated". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted July 6, 2018 Author Share Posted July 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, kaseykockroach said: Hatred takes more energy than its worth and is thus best reserved only for matters where it's truly warranted, but I do hold intense contempt for the term "overrated". So you think "overrated" is overrated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Just now, Jurassic Shark said: So you think "overrated" is overrated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Absolutely. Chinatown is really good, but none of his other work has really appealed to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 I never really was a Jerry Goldsmith listener, so I'll say no, but that's not fair coming from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted July 6, 2018 Author Share Posted July 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jerry said: I never really was a Jerry Goldsmith listener, so I'll say no, but that's not fair coming from me. You mean yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 I voted no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 He's the best film composer of all time and he should get his own subforum here! (Solely I have created enough Goldsmith threads to fill a subforum.) In short, he's not overrated. It can really take a long time to get the idea of what makes him a musical genius, but there are several reasons to consider him as such. It's way easier to approach the (slightly inferior) genius of John Williams, so he's the guy that tends to be more overrated. PS: Mozart is overrated! Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Just now, Brundlefly said: PS: Mozart is overrated! SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,593 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 I agree with you on Mozart and Williams, Brundlefly. In fact I'm not even a big fan of most Mozart, though I'm certainly a pretty big Williams fan. Of course Jerry Goldsmith is my favorite composer of all time so I don't even think he's overrated at FSM much less here...I'm just flabbergasted at those who love Chinatown alone among his work. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 8 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Do you think Jerry Goldsmith is overrated on this forum? Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted July 6, 2018 Author Share Posted July 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Brundlefly said: PS: Mozart is overrated! Mozart >>>>>>>>>> Goldiesmythe 17 minutes ago, crocodile said: Who? John Williams' butler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Isn't Jerry Goldsmith that guy who wrote a rejected score to Star Wars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 He is on FSM but not here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Anyone else think Horner is better than Goldsmith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Better at what? Better in bed? Better at cooking? Better at remembering to clean the cat litter box? Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Better at everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Humanoids from the Deep could've been better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted July 7, 2018 Author Share Posted July 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Batman's Diet Coke said: Better at everything. Better at flying too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Through all you guys' talking about Rudy, I only keep thinking "Rudy the Racing Pig? Did Goldsmith score that old German movie and was it that good?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 He almost scored 'Babe'. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 1 hour ago, publicist said: He almost scored 'Babe'. I love Nigel Westlake's score but that would have been amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 He certainly scored plenty of babes, I'd say... Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,508 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 On 7/7/2018 at 5:33 AM, Horner's Dynamic Range said: Better at everything. He's better at bitching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 9 minutes ago, kaseykockroach said: He certainly scored plenty of babes, I'd say... These are all supremely better than The Cowboys, Sabrina or Superman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 You say that as though those scores would be difficult to surpass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 The women in those movies weren't as beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,508 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 A lot of men thought a certain part of Sharon Stone wasn't bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Not to forget: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Women are awesome, man. Period. Except Scarlet Johansson. Yuck. And I thought she was terrible long before those casting controversies came around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, kaseykockroach said: Except Scarlet Johansson. Yuck. And I thought she was terrible long before those casting controversies came around. Any and all good will I’ve ever felt toward you is now squandered Schilkeman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 But she's so generic and robotic! She was the worst thing about the Spongebob Movie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted July 8, 2018 Author Share Posted July 8, 2018 Generic is what Hollywood does best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, kaseykockroach said: But she's so generic and robotic! She was the worst thing about the Spongebob Movie! Enough fucking said, now go to your room and think about your poor decisions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 She has no character! No charisma! I don't care about butts, I want character! I want fun and livelihood! Love and warmth! ScarJo has no warmth. She's soulless. She's empty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 We want her back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, kaseykockroach said: She has no character! No charisma! I don't care about butts, I want character! I want fun and livelihood! Love and warmth! ScarJo has no warmth. She's soulless. She's empty. She hasn’t done much lately I’ve loved. But I adored her in Ghost World and Lost in Translation back in the day. She was perfect in Under the Skin, but of course warmth is the last thing that movie was going for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 I always thought Miss Honey sounded like a porn name Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 On 7/6/2018 at 11:26 PM, Horner's Dynamic Range said: Anyone else think Horner is better than Goldsmith? Me. Also mstrox, I think. Horner also wins in the more recent direction of this conversation. Kasey Kockroach and Unlucky Bastard 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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