Incanus 5,714 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 20 minutes ago, kaseykockroach said: Tttthhufferin' thuccotash! Alan Thhhhhilvethtri! I tawt I taw a Silvestwi. I did! I did! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kühni 485 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,519 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 With these releases, they picked the wrong week to quit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Kühni said: Have you all been sniffing glue, or what? Just your regular week at JWFan my dear Kühni. You should know by now all threads devolve into movie quotes sooner rather than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Demondm810 399 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 14 hours ago, Jay said: That's a big problem. There could be a recall on this. Agreed, I'm really really surprised this happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,684 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 The knowledge that the finale was recorded in L.A., where is that from? More of a request for some sort of reference, rather than claiming it wasn't. Because that's a massive thing to get wrong. Although if it's just a credit issue, that's way less serious than forgetting to pay the AFM isn't it? Does anyone else find a lot of the main score a bit muddy sounding, with the OST and the alternates sounding clearer and instruments circling more? I need to compare it to the leak later on, but some cues here definitely don't sound as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: The knowledge that the finale was recorded in L.A., where is that from? More of a request for some sort of reference, rather than claiming it wasn't. Because that's a massive thing to get wrong. Although if it's just a credit issue, that's way less serious than forgetting to pay the AFM isn't it? Does anyone else find a lot of the main score a bit muddy sounding, with the OST and the alternates sounding clearer and instruments circling more? I need to compare it to the leak later on, but some cues here definitely don't sound as good. On 7/17/2018 at 6:38 AM, Jim Ware said: Not a rumour. From the Silvestri interview in FSM vol.6 no.4 (April/May 2001): The same issue also includes a full page ad from the Los Angeles Recording Musicians Association congratulating him on his score: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,684 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Ah, k. That hadn't clicked with me earlier, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Blah not sure who did the remastering/remix for this release but looking at the wave forms it's got the loudness wars going on. Having to run the cues through ReLife to get them to the same levels as The Mummy's release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 11 minutes ago, Trent B said: Blah not sure who did the remastering/remix for this release but looking at the wave forms it's got the loudness wars going on. Having to run the cues through ReLife to get them to the same levels as The Mummy's release. Fuck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 It sounds fine to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, kaseykockroach said: It sounds fine to me... I can tell during the more action pieces especially if a track has soft music at first then gets the action parts IE: Evy Kidnapped! and especially "My First Bus Ride". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 319 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 To my ear, the End Credits (only cue I've tested) seems okay. I'll be listening to the score more closely once I'm done going over The Mummy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 As long as it doesn't sound like a recording for a Giacchino score, I think I'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 As if Silvestri scores aren't already loud enough, some mastering engineer thinks it all should be louder. Fuckin' eh, man, they're driving me nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 I want it to be as loud as possible so I get my money's worth. Karol Kasey Kockroach and OneBuckFilms 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 I'm sick of those 90's/2000's Horner albums where I have to turn the speakers all the way up to be able to make out anything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 I mean there is a flip side of the coin where dynamic range is taken waaaaay too far the other way Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 The album should begin with the THX logo! igger6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Horner's dynamic range is better than everyone's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Fievel Goes West sounds like someone put a blanket over all the microphones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 I love the whole brick wall trick, it was beautiful, these... bastards. igger6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 I wonder if brick-walling isn't a prominent issue in car-listening, because hot diggety dang, it sounds fine to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Well, I'd sure love to listen to this, but my laptop refuses to read Disc 2. Sssssiiiigghh.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 On 7/21/2018 at 1:15 AM, kaseykockroach said: I wonder if brick-walling isn't a prominent issue in car-listening, because hot diggety dang, it sounds fine to me. Brickwalling would help car listening more than anything else. Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Nevermind, laptop's working now! For some reason, it has trouble reading Intrada CD's sometimes. Phew! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 On 7/21/2018 at 4:15 PM, kaseykockroach said: I wonder if brick-walling isn't a prominent issue in car-listening, because hot diggety dang, it sounds fine to me. That's pretty much the reason they do it. And for public transport commuters. They don't give a shit about people who listen on a hi-fi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 There must be some phony - probably US-centric - study that once and for all prove that people only listen to music in a car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 On 7/21/2018 at 8:12 AM, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said: I love the whole brick wall trick, it was beautiful, these... bastards. My house is built from brick walls and ity absolutely fine. @kaseykockroach you have to admot this score is quite amazing for a 3-week rush job. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 If I wasn't told this was a rush job, I honestly wouldn't have guessed. Even the redundant cues on the complete score just left me thinking "Well, that's how it is when you're tasked with doing nearly two hours of music". It's very rare I can stand a score listening experience that goes over 75+ minutes. 14 minutes ago, crocodile said: My house is built from brick walls and ity absolutely fine. @kaseykockroach you have to admot this score is quite amazing for a 3-week rush job. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 I always guffaw when people say "75 min+ is too long!". It sounds so wimpy and meek. Like the moment the music goes over 75 mins, they start shivering like scared little mice! You know what I do, man? As long as it's good I continue listening! I blast that goodness! It's nutritious for the ears! It's more invigorating than any amount of caffeine! I can stand it being long Mmmm-hm! I'm a tough dude, I can devour that noise like a steak cooked medium well! Smeltington and Kasey Kockroach 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 I'm touched you remember that post! ❤️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 I bet the people who mastered this release aren't even real fans of film music! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 11 minutes ago, kaseykockroach said: If I wasn't told this was a rush job, I honestly wouldn't have guessed. There are numerous repeated sections that pop up virtually unchanged multiple times, usually a dead giveaway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 I wasn't aware TMR was a rush job. Was Silvestri a last minute hire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Yeah, but I anticipated some monotony in a score that's almost two hours long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 No. Like Goldsmith's Mummy, this one was written at a fairly late stage because effects and cutting weren't finished. Both composers had time to develop their thematic material before they wrote the score proper. 1 minute ago, kaseykockroach said: Yeah, but I anticipated some monotony in a score that's almost two hours long. If you cut all the dead air, there's not much more than an hour remaining (though i hear there are guys who love to listen to stuff like 'Pygmy Attack', which i immediately deleted). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 I kept about 84 minutes worth...but that's including the song. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 😨 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 In comparison, I only kept the end credits suite to Predator 2 as I felt that's all I needed in that case (I don't care much for the first score/film). Love that score, but in terms of isolated listening, the end credits quenches my thirst for it enough. Which is to say, I'm probably a nincompoop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Predator 2 has much more to it than the end credits that make me go "hell yeah I love it!" I guess Alan's suspense music isn't for everyone. publicist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Subway Predator for the win! Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Perhaps a revisit is in order, though either way, that end credits is poifect! Love the movie too. I'm the only man on earth (as far as I'm aware) who thinks it's way better than the first one. Or more to my taste, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, publicist said: Subway Predator for the win! And "Meat Locker" and "Ugly Mother". A bunch of previously unreleased music there I wanted for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 "I'm a cop!" "I don't think he gives a shit." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Two bad sequels off Goldsmith's table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Herb... Herb, wake up. There's someone in the bathroom. HERRRRB! Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpvee 805 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 WOW! No idea how I missed this thread (and The Mummy's). These are two of my favorite scores, largely due to the fusion with Middle Eastern melodies and instruments. What are the advantages to these new sets vs. the complete bootlegs that have been available for so long? Is the quality much improved over those? (It's also interesting the page for The Mummy notes remastering, but I don't see any mention of it on Returns'.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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