Jay 37,352 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 26 minutes ago, Kasey Kockroach said: I can't wait until someone comes up with a shorter playlist for this. A short program was already posted to JWFan last night 15 hours ago, gkgyver said: If I wanted to make a playlist, it will probably be this one: 1. Godzilla Main Title 2. Outpost 32 3. Rise Of Ghidorah 4. The First Gods 5. Rodan 6. Queen Of The Monsters 7. The Hollow Earth 8. Rebirth 9. Battle In Boston 10. Redemption 11. King Of The Monsters 12. Mothra's Song 13. Godzilla Main Title (reprise) Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Gyver is back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2019 To be honest I don't trust any reviews of a score that people have only had for like 12 hours nor has anyone seen the movie. 10 Cloverfield Lane didn't bowl me over at first, but after I saw the movie and then listened to the score over the course of weeks it became one of my favorites of that year. Giftheck, Arpy and A. A. Ron 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Well to be fair, I took an instant liking to both his Cloverfield scores. And I’m a huge Godzilla fan, especially the music. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 It's not a problem or anything to have a meh first reaction, I just try to be open to an anticipated score being a grower! Any time I first listen to a score I've been really looking forward to it takes a while for it come out of the shadow of my expectations and be seen for just what it is. Just my experience though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 483 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 13 hours ago, The Original said: Holy shit! The Rebirth track features a familiar piece of music from Godzilla vs Destoroyah! By the way, got my plush toy today. Cuuuuuuuute. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: It's not a problem or anything to have a meh first reaction, I just try to be open to an anticipated score being a grower! Any time I first listen to a score I've been really looking forward to it takes a while for it come out of the shadow of my expectations and be seen for just what it is. Just my experience though! And to be fair, I’ll buy the score and give it a more in depth listen. In fact I have it on preorder with Amazon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Godzilla 2014 grew on me rather quickly. I like this too. But it makes me wish Bear could have come up with his own main theme for Godzilla like Desplat did. It also has some elements of his cloverfield work, but I loved those scores. So thats alright too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Nobody should ever come up with his own theme for Godzilla. Ever. Classics won't be equaled. Ever. You don't need a new Indiana Jones theme, you don't need a new Star Wars theme, you don't need a new Hedwig's theme, and you don't need a new Godzilla theme. Hollywood does remake after remake, for nostalgia, but the themes for them should be brand new? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Can we get a new Force theme for Star Wars? Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Bear did a helluva job breathing new life into the glorious old themes. Taikomochi and Cerebral Cortex 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 2 hours ago, gkgyver said: Nobody should ever come up with his own theme for Godzilla. Ever. Classics won't be equaled. Ever. You don't need a new Indiana Jones theme, you don't need a new Star Wars theme, you don't need a new Hedwig's theme, and you don't need a new Godzilla theme. Hollywood does remake after remake, for nostalgia, but the themes for them should be brand new? No. Michiru Oshima and Reijiro Koroku beg to differ. Both of their themes were very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 483 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 2 hours ago, gkgyver said: Nobody should ever come up with his own theme for Godzilla. Ever. Classics won't be equaled. Ever. You don't need a new Indiana Jones theme, you don't need a new Star Wars theme, you don't need a new Hedwig's theme, and you don't need a new Godzilla theme. Hollywood does remake after remake, for nostalgia, but the themes for them should be brand new? No. But... but... I like David Arnold's theme for Godzilla. 1977 and Gruesome Son of a Bitch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 It's the best one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Nothing beats the Indoraptor theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 20 minutes ago, scallenger said: But... but... I like David Arnold's theme for Godzilla. It was better when Herrmann did it for Cape Fear. 9 minutes ago, Kasey Kockroach said: Nothing beats the Indoraptor theme. We’re long overdue for a Michael Giacchino Godzilla score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Man, am I bored of that same Zimmery string rhythm we hear in either every modern Zimmer score or every Zimmer imitation. Desplat's had a good main title cue. That's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 31 minutes ago, El Jefe said: It was better when Herrmann did it for Cape Fear. We’re long overdue for a Michael Giacchino Godzilla score. He basically came as close as he could with Fallen Kingdoms end credits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 hour ago, MedigoScan said: He basically came as close as he could with Fallen Kingdoms end credits. Don't forget Roar! from Cloverfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted May 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2019 5 hours ago, gkgyver said: Nobody should ever come up with his own theme for Godzilla. Ever. Classics won't be equaled. Ever. You don't need a new Indiana Jones theme, you don't need a new Star Wars theme, you don't need a new Hedwig's theme, and you don't need a new Godzilla theme. Hollywood does remake after remake, for nostalgia, but the themes for them should be brand new? No. ^ This. I mean, what was Jerry Goldsmith thinking when he made his own theme for Star Trek? Didn't he realize that the Alexander Courage theme from the TV show was better than everything? DarthDementous, Kasey Kockroach and 1977 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 3 hours ago, El Jefe said: Michiru Oshima and Reijiro Koroku beg to differ. Both of their themes were very good. 3 hours ago, scallenger said: But... but... I like David Arnold's theme for Godzilla. That's totally beside the point. The original suggestion was for McCreary to write his own Godzilla theme, like Desplat. There were a few good ones in the past, but it always came down to "please bring back the classic theme". And the ones newly written ape the original. And that's for a reason, and the simple reason is that none of the above can touch the Ifukube one. It's a once in a lifetime piece of music, much like other classic movie themes, and people expect it. It's inseparably woven into the Godzilla character, and there is no reason to abandon it other than ego, or studio demand. "Very good" is no replacement for it. The only ones coming close were written by Ifukube himself, like the Destroy All Monsters march. 53 minutes ago, A. A. Ron said: ^ This. I mean, what was Jerry Goldsmith thinking when he made his own theme for Star Trek? Didn't he realize that the Alexander Courage theme from the TV show was better than everything? With all due respect, Goldsmith was fifteen times the composer Bear McCreary is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Seeing such love for the Godzilla theme brings warm feelings to my heart. Man I want some of those older scores re-recorded. No one makes orchestra tutti unisons and doublings sound as goddamn thick and punchy as Ifukube. Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 11 hours ago, Dieter Stark said: It's the best one. It has no reason to fear Bear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Fine enough. Lord knows my brother wont stop loving the original theme either. (I dont think the desplat or arnold themes sound like the original much tho) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 11 hours ago, scallenger said: But... but... I like David Arnold's theme for Godzilla. He never wrote a theme for Godzilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 What, characters are allowed only one theme and that's it? Reijiro Koroku's theme was particularly menacing, I doubt the Ifukube music would have worked. And the Neal Hefti Batman theme certainly would never have worked in the movies from the 80s onwards! Ifukube's theme was never really all that menacing anyway. I suppose it'll work in this new film because it'll be spun to more portray his benevolence and mystique in a weird kind of superheroish sort of way. But Desplat achieved similar results, although a bit more opaque. DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Desplat scored the picture, not the creature. Ollie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Normies in the mainstream sure haven't heard much else 1977 and Kasey Kockroach 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry O 115 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 I really like this score. There's a couple... corny moments, I guess. Corny's probably a good word to describe some of the excesses. But then again, this also looks like a very excessive movie in a lot of ways - the sort of Godzilla movie that people who don't really watch Godzilla movies think all the other Godzilla movies really are. If that makes sense. But McCreary really leans into that old Galactica-esque sorta mode here with the percussions, rhythms, and stylistic combinations. At least on first listen, that's what it feels like. I appreciate that quite a bit, and probably always will, there's something about what he did on those scores that I just respond to, and I think there's a lot of that in here. also, I know it was probably a gag, but: A huge part of the reason there was a new theme for Star Trek the Motion Picture was due to everyone on that project having this weird need to distance themselves from everything that made the show THE SHOW. That's why the Klingons became grotesque monsters, the uniforms became drab, the tone dour - that project was a testament to self-seriousness, and it was in that spirit that Courage's very fun, bold, colorful, '60s theme got jettisoned. Of course, Goldsmith then turned in an amazing, bold, imaginative score that ended up being better suited to Next Generation than it was the film he wrote it for. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Larry O said: I really like this score. There's a couple... corny moments, I guess. Corny's probably a good word to describe some of the excesses. But then again, this also looks like a very excessive movie in a lot of ways - the sort of Godzilla movie that people who don't really watch Godzilla movies think all the other Godzilla movies really are. If that makes sense. Haha. I saw a trailer ad for the movie yesterday and I got a little worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Anyone hear that trumpet flub at 0.49 in “Godzilla Main Title”? gkgyver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 "Rebirth" makes me feel like a 9 year old again. Buy this album. Bear has a way with the orchestra...I feel like every epic score wants to sound like this...but they all end up muddy by comparison. This has got serious oomph but sounds crisp and wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManofDestiny 71 Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 Ghidorah Theme: Giftheck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 The thematic bits are alright, but the score overall is basically packing peanuts. I’ve tried listening several times and lose interest within about a minute into any track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Listening to the album for the first time right now. Immediate reaction is that this is an awful 1st track for a soundtrack album. The main title is okay but I'm not a fan of the choral work so far. It sounds a little pasted onto the rest of the music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Good thing the physical release shunted it towards the end of the 2nd disc. (Thats also 2 soundtrack releases in the same week that have Serj yelling on it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 On 27. Mai 2019 at 7:18 AM, ManofDestiny said: Ghidorah Theme: Ghidorah's theme itself is close to Ifukube's, just without the panache that made it great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 On 5/25/2019 at 2:45 AM, Nick Parker said: Seeing such love for the Godzilla theme brings warm feelings to my heart. Unlucky Bastard and Cerebral Cortex 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Interview with 🐻 https://musiquefantastique.com/further-examinations/bears-massive-monster-opera/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Bear McCreary is the next John Williams confirmed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 So, having got back from the cinema, I sat through to watch the post-credit sequence. The credits played the Godzilla song, Ghidorah's Theme, Mothra's Song and Godzilla Main Title in that order, but the Godzilla Main Title had a much longer percussion roll-in, and didn't have the taiko chorus overlays. So anybody who didn't like the Main Title having them will be happy once it comes out on home media and we can get a rip of it. Ollie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Hey, what the hell happened to my review post, and discussion with The Original earlier today? Did I post in a different GODZILLA thread? [Edit: Ah, I see it was moved to the other thread, presumably because this about the score only]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Just now, Thor said: Hey, what the hell happened to my review post, and discussion with The Original earlier today? Did I post in a different GODZILLA thread? It got moved to the Godzilla Cinematic Universe thread, probably because reviewing the film doesn't exactly fit in to a discussion about its music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 This is the thread for the score, that's the thread for the movie. Pretty standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Thanks Jay, I’m sure Thor will learn from his mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 I welcome Thor's thoughts on the score itself here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 A friend on Instagram told me it was the loudest film he'd ever seen. Makes me wonder how the score is and whether it's even audible over the sound effects? I'll definitely be ear-plugging on this one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 I only had, like, two sentences on the score in the moved post, but guess I can paste them in here: Bear McCreary's music has a few highlights, primarily the choral colours. But 90% of it is generic, loud, bombastic action music that more often than not get swallowed by the sound effects. There are references to Ifukube's GODZILLA theme and a few others that I won't mention, so as not to spoil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, The Original said: A friend on Instagram told me it was the loudest film he'd ever seen. Makes me wonder how the score is and whether it's even audible over the sound effects? I'll definitely be ear-plugging on this one! I’m seeing it in IMAX Saturday. I’ll let you know if I go deaf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, El Jefe said: I’m seeing it in IMAX Saturday. I’ll let you know if I go deaf. Hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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