SAVING PRIVATE RYAN 20th Anniversary Edition from La-La Land Records

[Chewy 2,382]

Finding Private Ryan:

 

And the difference between both tracks:

 

 

 

[Josh500 1,615]

That's one track!

 

Why don't you compare Hymn to the Fallen and Omaha Beach?

[Chewy 2,382]

[Jurassic Shark 12,033]

The sound of silence.

[Chewy 2,382]

2 hours ago, Josh500 said:

 

So basically you're calling MM a liar?

 

No MM isn't a liar, this is what he wrote:

 

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UME provided me with Pat Sullivan's delivered digital master, which she and I then reviewed together. We cleaned up a few little things, finessed track starts and endings, etc., but in the end, while this IS, in the strictest sense, a remastering, it did not feel right to shout that from the rooftops because the mixes, EQ and levels were not altered in any significant way. For the additional tracks, Patricia actually recalled her notes from 1998 that detailed exactly how to EQ and process the audio. I followed that in creating the added tracks so that everything would be uniform.

 

[Bespin 8,480]

What humility Mr Matessino.

 

I think I will cry.

 

🙄

[Jurassic Shark 12,033]

52 minutes ago, Chewy said:

the mixes, EQ and levels were not altered in any significant way. 

 

So they were altered, according to MM.

 

17 minutes ago, Bespin said:

What humility Mr Matessino.

 

I think I will cry.

 

🙄

 

Perhaps you can learn something from that.

 

[The Illustrious Jerry 3,356]

20 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

So they were altered, according to MM.

Altered? Is this the new norm? What's next? 

 

The Star Wars OSTs Altered and Rendered Rerelease?

 

 

[Chewy 2,382]

6 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said:

So they were altered, according to MM.

Hm

[Josh500 1,615]

It's like saying, "I didn't hurt the guy in any significant way." And everybody will know the guy was actually hurt. 😂 

 

So MM did alter the mixes and EQ! Straight from the horse's mouth.

[Brundlefly 2,385]

12 hours ago, Chewy said:

Finding Private Ryan:

 

And the difference between both tracks:

 

 

 

To be honest, I see slight differences, so it's weird that your program does not.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

So MM speaks the truth!

 

Does it SOUND different, Brundlyfly?

[Jurassic Shark 12,033]

There's a faint disco beat in the 20th anniversary release.

[rough cut 1,714]

I am tired of remastered reissues. I want remixed reissues.

 

For anyone curious about the difference, I urge you to compare the remastered version of The Beatles’ “Sgt Pepper“ released in 2009 with the remixed reissue released in 2017.

 

I’d take the remixed version any day! Hell, I’d prefer anything recorded before the 90’s to be rereleased in remixed form if it makes it sound more modern.

 

Bring on the Star Wars OT Remixed Box Set!

[Incanus 5,713]

26 minutes ago, rough cut said:

Bring on the Star Wars OT Remixed Box Set!

Shush! Do not speak of such things! This is the internet! We don't know if Disney might be watching and decide to go forth with such madness!

 

[crocodile 7,990]

Trance reimagining of our favourite cues might be just the thing this fandom needs.

 

Karol

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

JunkieXL Remixes Star Wars!

[Jurassic Shark 12,033]

That would make us beg for Shawn Murphy...

[crumbs 14,305]

Murphy has done a mostly excellent job recording Williams' scores since A.I. (which is sadly muddy and flat).

 

And we're not sure who is responsible for the hiss in AOTC. That could be a mixing or mastering issue (but its presence in both the digital and analogue masters would indicate it was in the recording, IMO). 

[Chewy 2,382]

3 hours ago, Brundlefly said:

To be honest, I see slight differences, so it's weird that your program does not.

It's in your head I think.

[Thor 7,478]

I haven't read any of the 14 previous pages in this thread (nor any previous SPR thread), so sorry if this has been brought up before, but does anyone else get an SPR vibe from Ralph Vaughan Williams' 49th PARALLEL?

 

 

[Jurassic Shark 12,033]

1 hour ago, crumbs said:

And we're not sure who is responsible for the hiss in AOTC. That could be a mixing or mastering issue (but its presence in both the digital and analogue masters would indicate it was in the recording, IMO). 

 

Is that your only issue with the Disney demasters?

 

1 hour ago, Thor said:

I haven't read any of the 14 previous pages in this thread (nor any previous SPR thread), so sorry if this has been brought up before, but does anyone else get an SPR vibe from Ralph Vaughan Williams' 49th PARALLEL?

 

 

 

There is a parallel...

[Jay 37,323]

4 hours ago, rough cut said:

I am tired of remastered reissues. I want remixed reissues.

 

The LLL Close Encounters was a 100% remix

[crumbs 14,305]

53 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

Is that your only issue with the Disney demasters?

 

No, that's just a general issue with AOTC. The recording itself appears to be hissy regardless of source. The Disney release, if anything, just faithfully presents it. 😄

[rough cut 1,714]

35 minutes ago, Jay said:

 

The LLL Close Encounters was a 100% remix

 

Yeah ok, fair enough, but how many know that? And how many knows the difference between remastered and remixed? How many think that a remix is an abomination by default (just as many might think that a remaster would automatically yield a “better” result than the original - both assumptions are of course misleading).

 

I think the term remixed is still very linked to club remixes, which doesn’t have to be the case, nor is it what I meant by my comment. I meant remixed from the original elements - as CE3K, for example.

 

I brought Sgt Pepper up because the difference really blew me away and I think it might be an eye opener for people curious about the difference.

 

But for those who want club remixes, this is what you’re looking for: Headspace, released in 2016!

 

No, but seriously. lol up Sgt Pepper. It’s cool.

[phbart 609]

I bet Dreamworks or Paramount either lost or erased the multitrack tapes of SPR, since the final two channel mix is good enough. That's why a remix wasn't possible.

[Jurassic Shark 12,033]

11 minutes ago, rough cut said:

 

 No, but seriously. lol up Sgt Pepper. It’s cool.

 

It indeed sounds better, but as is the case with many remixes of classic rock/pop recordings there's too much emphasis on the bass registery.

[Holko 9,499]

12 minutes ago, rough cut said:

I brought Sgt Pepper up because the difference really blew me away and I think it might be an eye opener for people curious about the difference.

 

The main thing about Sgt. Pepper is that originally it had two mixes: mono and stereo. The mono had all the effort put into it, 6 weeks if I remember, the stereo was done in less than a week, I guess it was still just a novelty.

The 2009 took the stereo because it was stereo, it must be better, and remastered it.

The 2018 went back to the original 4-track sessions and took the lead from the mono mix (with which every Beatle was involved), but created a new stereo mix for modernity, and it's awesome. 1 is the same way - no hard stereo separation, so finally listenable with headphones.

[Brundlefly 2,385]

Listen to The Mummy and you'll see what a remixing job by the wrong guy leads to.

[publicist 4,643]

2 minutes ago, Holko said:

 

The main thing about Sgt. Pepper is that originally it had two mixes: mono and stereo. The mono had all the effort put into it, 6 weeks if I remember, the stereo was done in less than a week, I guess it was still just a novelty.

 

In 1967, stereo sure was no 'novelty'. If anything, those were the waning days of mono.

[Jurassic Shark 12,033]

I guess for Apple Records it was.

[Disco Stu 15,495]

The original mono mix of Sgt. Pepper sounds great with headphones.

[The Five Tones 302]

Was in the mail this evening and listening now - sounds better to my ears, maybe more of the hall in there, better detailed than the '98. Subtle differences.

[rough cut 1,714]

Yeah, that’s called choice-supportive bias.  😉

[Incanus 5,713]

Still no sign of the CD nor even shipping confirmation.  

[Jurassic Shark 12,033]

It would surely take months to reach Finland, and when it's finally there, the jewel case is most certainly broken...

[Incanus 5,713]

3 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

It would surely take months to reach Finland, and when it's finally there, the jewel case is most certainly broken...

Thanks for that bit of comfort JS.

 

Usually LLL packages arrive in about a week. As I said before 3 days has been the past record for the fastest delivery, so it doesn't usually take ages. But yes jewel cases do arrive cracked from time to time even though they do use quite sturdy packaging to protect them.

[Jurassic Shark 12,033]

7 hours ago, Incanus said:

Thanks for that bit of comfort JS.

 

Usually LLL packages arrive in about a week. As I said before 3 days has been the past record for the fastest delivery, so it doesn't usually take ages. But yes jewel cases do arrive cracked from time to time even though they do use quite sturdy packaging to protect them.

 

Just trying to cheer you up.

 

Seriously though, have you ordered from the European Amazons? I frequently do (although they're imperialist pigs), and I've done for a long time, but in recent years the quality of their packaging has really decreased. Now, close to 50% of the CDs and sheet music I order are damaged. I've complained a lot, but only in a few cases have they improved the packaging...

[Josh500 1,615]

7 hours ago, Incanus said:

Still no sign of the CD nor even shipping confirmation.  

 

And nobody has posted a pic of the set yet! 

 

I'm starting to doubt the very existence of this 20th Anniversary Edition of SPR! I think this might be an elaborate hoax.

[Incanus 5,713]

I got mine finally today!

 

 

[Jay 37,323]

I see my name!

[Josh500 1,615]

Wow, wow, wow! So it does exist! 

 

Thanks for posting the great pics, @Incanus!

 

And don't forget to give us an accurate report on the sound quality asap! 

[Brundlefly 2,385]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

I see my name!

Your name sharing the "Special Thanks"-section with other names, such as Steven Spielberg and John Williams!

[Jay 37,323]

Pretty cool!

[Brundlefly 2,385]

Indeed!

[crocodile 7,990]

1 hour ago, Incanus said:

I got mine finally today!

 

 

 

No tablecloth? 1 star!

 

Karol

[Incanus 5,713]

8 minutes ago, crocodile said:

No tablecloth? 1 star!

 

Karol

Karol, I might have known! The white background of the table is to bring out the magnificence of the sombre cover you Philistine!

[Bespin 8,480]

Congrats @Jay and @Miguel Andrade, can we know what is your implication in this release guys?

[Jurassic Shark 12,033]

8 minutes ago, crocodile said:

No tablecloth? 1 star!

 

Karol

 

I believe tablecloths are forbidden in Finland.

[Dr. Rick 1,155]

 

LLL loves me so much they sent me two separate shipments of SPR and Sup IV 🤣

 

Has this ever happened to anyone on here?  I've reached out to them to inquire about how to send them back, thankfully I wasn't double-billed for them.