SAVING PRIVATE RYAN 20th Anniversary Edition from La-La Land Records

[Richard Penna 3,671]

Burn it yourself

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

Just now, Richard Penna said:

Burn it yourself

 

Yeah but it'd look so amateurish.

[Arpy 4,145]

You can make the cover art with crayons in any color you want! You could even do different levels of embossing!

 

-_-

[Incanus 5,713]

5 hours ago, Arpy said:

You can make the cover art with crayons in any color you want! You could even do different levels of embossing!

 

-_-

Oh man. Embossing!

[Chewy 2,376]

Even if they said it's not remastered, it is still possible that they re-transferred the analog elements to digital...right?

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

For a CD release? Of course.

[Brundlefly 2,385]

[Tumbleweed]

[Nemesis 244]

I'm somehow glad they didn't remastered it. I like the sound very much.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

They'd have just made it brighter and louder anyway.

[Jurassic Shark 12,030]

It should have gotten the Shawn Murphy treatment.

[Arpy 4,145]

"With collectible fold-out mini poster!"

[Jurassic Shark 12,030]

Is he the one who made the posters too?

[12-Mile Reef 123]

Mike Matessino on the new release:

 

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I am surprised by some of the comments I have read, not necessarily in this particular thread, regarding the fact that the new Saving Private Ryan release is not technically "remastered." There have been many discussions where the idea of remastering has been derided, dismissed as being nothing but "louder and brighter," etc., and where it's been expressed (sometimes astutely) that the original sonics were fine and should be left alone.

In the end, everything has to be addressed on a case-by-case basis. La-La Land's upcoming release is an anniversary commemorative edition, for the first time presenting the score with deluxe packaging and liner notes that I am very happy with. No one can do anything about the fact that there wasn't that much score left off the original album, but what we can do is embrace the fact that Maestro Williams was amenable to the idea of this release and that, as a result, additional music will soon be available. He could just as easily have said 'no' and that the original album was enough.

When it came to the audio, he took the time to listen to some of the original release -- which is actually a BIG DEAL, and said that he was happy with the program, the mix and the sound quality. That was certainly enough for me.

UME provided me with Pat Sullivan's delivered digital master, which she and I then reviewed together. We cleaned up a few little things, finessed track starts and endings, etc., but in the end, while this IS, in the strictest sense, a remastering, it did not feel right to shout that from the rooftops because the mixes, EQ and levels were not altered in any significant way. For the additional tracks, Patricia actually recalled her notes from 1998 that detailed exactly how to EQ and process the audio. I followed that in creating the added tracks so that everything would be uniform.

In this particular case, this was the best course of action for the release and the one that the Maestro was comfortable with us pursuing. It does not mean that any less TLC was applied to it. The only other option would have been to retransfer the stereo mixes and rebuild all the performance edits, but the end result would not have been drastically different from what already exists since both John Williams and Shawn Murphy liked their mixes.

If anyone feels that the those mixes were lacking and/or that there isn't enough new material to warrant a purchase, or if you don't care for the score at all, that's totally fine. But if having a deluxe treatment of a great Spielberg/Williams collaborative effort appeals to you, then I think you'll enjoy having the new edition in your collection. It's one we are all proud of and which La-La Land is now privileged to have in the catalogue. I hope that it will be supported by the collectors so that more will keep coming through the pipeline.

Mike Matessino

 

https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=129802&forumID=1&archive=0&pageID=2&r=945#bottom

[Josh500 1,615]

Great! So they at least did some fine-tuning!  

 

I'll get it on the first day. It's one of my favourite scores, after all. I'll treasure it.

[Jurassic Shark 12,030]

8 minutes ago, John Chambers said:

finessed track starts and endings

 

I'm wondering what this implies.

[phbart 609]

Plausible explanation... but still, this is supposed to be the year for the books, and a "deluxe packing" is not enough for me. Sorry.

[Disco Stu 15,495]

1 minute ago, Jurassic Shark said:

 

I'm wondering what this implies.

 

That he's real persnickety about details I would never notice or care about, which is part of why he's the best.

 

1 minute ago, phbart said:

Plausible explanation... but still, this is supposed to be the year for the books, and a "deluxe packing" is not enough for me. Sorry.

 

You say this like anyone's supposed to care.

[phbart 609]

15 minutes ago, Disco Stu said:

You say this like anyone's supposed to care.

I don't care if anyone cares or doesn't care, actually. Buy it if you like it. It's your money. Now, carry on. 😎

 

 

25 minutes ago, John Chambers said:

When it came to the audio, he took the time to listen to some of the original release -- which is actually a BIG DEAL, and said that he was happy with the program, the mix and the sound quality. That was certainly enough for me.

JW asking for a new release to sound identical to a previous release?? Now that's a real shocker! Never happened before...

[Jurassic Shark 12,030]

9 minutes ago, phbart said:

Plausible explanation... but still, this is supposed to be the year for the books, and a "deluxe packing" is not enough for me. Sorry.

 

I'll buy it if is has pop-up figures like the Lost World OST.

[Disco Stu 15,495]

5 minutes ago, phbart said:

JW prefering a new release to sound identical to a previous release?? Now that's a real shocker! Never happened before...

 

What are you complaining about???  Unless you have any specific issues with the mastering/mixing of the original album, why post ironic snark just for the sake of it?

[Jurassic Shark 12,030]

9 minutes ago, Disco Stu said:

 

That he's real persnickety about details I would never notice or care about, which is part of why he's the best.

 

Maybe there's some noise at the start and end of tracks like with the Clones OST. I don't remember.

[phbart 609]

3 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

 

I'll buy it if is has pop-up figures like the Lost World OST.

I could be Tom Hanks pop-up with those bult-in mini speakers saying "Earn this!". That would be a deluxe packing!

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

So people are really pissed off that this isn't remastered? The OST has always sounded outstanding. I'm sure this will too.

[phbart 609]

Not pissed. Not at all. Just a little suprised. Newer JW scores than SPR have been remastered while the original sounded good already, so why not this? I mean, to help the sales and all since there isn't much material to add.

[Dr. Rick 1,155]

I just love it when people complain about something they haven't even heard yet.  Good lord folks, let's give it a chance before we pull out the torch and pitchforks...  🙄

 

Also, why would LLL say this year is going to be one for the books if they didn't have everything already approved and finalized for release?  Enough already with the griping, it's frickin' August, not New Year's Eve.  I won't call out names cuz you know who you are.

 

Just remember, you're entitled to your opinion, except when it's wrong!

 

 

[mstrox 6,647]

I think it just depends on WHO opines that it sounds good already.

 

The fans?  No impact on whether they "remaster"

Matessino?  A strong impact

Williams?  A much stronger impact.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

He mentioned fans saying "louder and brighter"... he's talking about me, huh.

[Jurassic Shark 12,030]

2 minutes ago, ATXHusker said:

Also, why would LLL say this year is going to be one for the books

 

I'm sure it's because of the pop-up figures.

[Josh500 1,615]

22 minutes ago, phbart said:

a "deluxe packing" is not enough for me. Sorry.

 

When I hear deluxe packaging, two little words come to mind:

 

Mini poster.

 

😂 

[phbart 609]

I want a fridge magnet!

[Josh500 1,615]

One thing slightly puzzles me.

 

The tracks on the OS album had no issues whatsoever with endings or beginnings. So what exactly did they improve? 

[phbart 609]

It was not inside a deluxe packing.

[Jurassic Shark 12,030]

They've added appropriate fading at the beginning and end of each track.

[Josh500 1,615]

Still no words on alternate tracks. Or songs, for that matter.

 

If the Home Alone 25th anniversary edition is any indication, this one'll include songs!

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

37 minutes ago, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said:

He mentioned fans saying "louder and brighter"... he's talking about me, huh.

 

With your current hearing issues you should probably stay away from "louder and brighter".

[phbart 609]

I bet those 2 minutes of unreleased material are SFX demos of guns firing and bombs exploding. Maybe some dialogue snippets too. Didn't Earthquake had a SFX track on the Varèse CD?

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

5 minutes ago, Stefancos said:

 

With your current hearing issues you should probably stay away from "louder and brighter".

 

That's probably half my CD collection. And I haven't listened to any music at all in almost two months.

[Josh500 1,615]

I bet one track is Tom Hanks just reading Lincoln's letter....

 

No, thank you! 😡

[crumbs 14,301]

It's great that Mike is working so closely with John's close circle of collaborators! Especially Patricia Sullivan, who did a marvellous job mastering Last Jedi and many other JW scores. Nice of her to take the time to find her original notes from the SPR sessions too.

 

Intriguing that JW relistening to parts of the OST is considered a big deal? I assumed JW had always listened to Matessino's assemblies throughout development, passing on notes about suggested sequencing changes.

 

Is JW revisiting the OST assembly unusual because he would ordinarily make up his mind about an expansion without going to the trouble of revisiting his OST presentation? Or does JW now mostly defer sequencing/editing suggestions to his team? 

[phbart 609]

1 minute ago, crumbs said:

Intriguing that JW relistening to parts of the OST is considered a big deal? I assumed JW had always listened to Matessino's assemblies throughout development, passing on notes about suggested sequencing changes.

Exactly what I thought. I hope this doesn't set a trend.

[crumbs 14,301]

4 minutes ago, phbart said:

Exactly what I thought. I hope this doesn't set a trend.

 

But it seems like MM is phrasing that part as a good thing. That Williams ordinarily wouldn't bother being so hands-on but, in this instance, went to the trouble of personally revisiting something he'd moved on from. 

 

Maybe when he was told there was such little unreleased music he started wondering how he sequenced the OST and needed a refresher. Also to decide whether to have MM re-sequence the score chronologically or keep his original sequencing and allow the extra cues as bonuses at the end. Probably something simple like that.

 

Clearly Williams has softened on his stance on unreleased music over the years as 5 years ago I think his response would've been, "don't bother with anything extra for this one, I'm satisfied with how it is."

[12-Mile Reef 123]

I don't think we need to worry too much about what the bonus tracks will be, Mike M knows what we want and has always been brilliant at getting us that regardless of the external constraints he seems to be put under. If I had to guess the bonus tracks after the original album program will be 'High School Teacher' as recorded and the complete 'The Last Battle' cue with the insert edited in, that way it will be easy to make a playlist of the complete score in order should we so wish.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

Why did MM waste his time with this while The Mummy and The Mummy Returns clearly needed his superior skills?

[crumbs 14,301]

Nice of MM to clear up what their source was for the release, too (Patricia's digital masters from 98). I was mostly just curious if they did a fresh scan of the analogue stereo master tapes. 

[phbart 609]

3 minutes ago, crumbs said:

But it seems like MM is phrasing that part as a good thing.

I'm pretty sure MM had other things in mind. I guess this is just him being a good politician, since he's so close to the JW camp than ever before and trying to keep himself there.

[crumbs 14,301]

3 minutes ago, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said:

Why did MM waste his time with this while The Mummy and The Mummy Returns clearly needed his superior skills?

 

Maybe he wasn't asked? Or was too busy? He likely has other Williams releases in the pipeline that he's busy with. 

[Josh500 1,615]

4 minutes ago, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said:

Why did MM waste his time with this while The Mummy and The Mummy Returns clearly needed his superior skills?

 

Why are you wasting your time on a JW site? 😂 

[crumbs 14,301]

5 minutes ago, phbart said:

I'm pretty sure MM had other things in mind. I guess this is just him being a good politician, since he's so close to the JW camp than ever before and trying to keep himself there.

Exactly. Clearly the opportunity presented itself, probably from Williams' camp. No chance LLL or MM ever turn down the chance to release a Spielberg/Williams score, regardless of how little unreleased meat is left on the bone. 

[Jay 37,287]

1 minute ago, crumbs said:

Exactly. Clearly the opportunity presented itself, probably from Williams' camp. No chance LLL or MM ever turn down the chance to release a Spielberg/Williams score, regardless of how little unreleased meat is left on the bone. 

 

This

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

2 minutes ago, Josh500 said:

 

Why are you wasting your time on a JW site? 😂 

 

Jack Wagner?