John 2,032 Posted October 10, 2019 Author Share Posted October 10, 2019 Looks like the LOTR and Hobbit trilogies are finally getting 4K UHD releases! The Lord of the Rings Trilogy 4K UHD (2001-2003) The Hobbit Trilogy 4K UHD (2012-2014) Coming Summer 2020. Chen G. and toothless 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Will they fix Fellowship EE's colour fuckup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Nice, here's hoping they tweak the color tinting on the LOTR EEs (but I doubt it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Yeah, definitely waiting for reviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Also will they finally reissue the extra documentaries from the limited EEs in a normal set? Were they in the big wooden shelf set? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Cat 24 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Jay said: Nice, here's hoping they tweak the color tinting on the LOTR EEs (but I doubt it) What's wrong with the coloring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 The Fellowship of the Ring looked one way in the theaters, and on the initial DVD of its theatrical cut. While simultaneously working on TTT theatrical and FOTRE EE, PJ decided that he wanted to color-grade the entire film trilogy more aggressively than he had done for FOTR EE. So all versions of TTT and ROTK are pretty heavily color-graded, and so is the EE of FOTR. Here are some comparisons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Perfect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Good for those people who do 4K. My final wish for LOTR is that Movies Anywhere or any of the other digital services had the entirety of the special features digitally, instead of just bits and pieces. Then I'd never need to think about popping those Blu-rays out again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Cat 24 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 20 minutes ago, Jay said: The Fellowship of the Ring looked one way in the theaters, and on the initial DVD of its theatrical cut. While simultaneously working on TTT theatrical and FOTRE EE, PJ decided that he wanted to color-grade the entire film trilogy more aggressively than he had done for FOTR EE. So all versions of TTT and ROTK are pretty heavily color-graded, and so is the EE of FOTR. Interesting, so is there a "correct" or "preferred" version generally? First time I'm hearing of this somehow. I've only ever really lseen the EEs though (except ROTK TE in theaters). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Most people prefer how FOTR looked in theaters than the green tinted EE. FOR TTT and ROTK we have no comparison because they were already color-graded in their TEs, apart from the oldest teasers and trailers with TTT and ROTK footage in them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Cat 24 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 16 minutes ago, Jay said: Most people prefer how FOTR looked in theaters than the green tinted EE. FOR TTT and ROTK we have no comparison because they were already color-graded in their TEs, apart from the oldest teasers and trailers with TTT and ROTK footage in them Was FOTR EE tinted to look like TTT and ROTK? Sorry if you explained all this. It's Monday morning where I'm at. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Seeing them side by side, I'd certainly pick the theatrical version - but it's not something I ever notice when just watching the EE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Gollum Cat said: Was FOTR EE tinted to look like TTT and ROTK? Sorry if you explained all this. It's Monday morning where I'm at. FOTR is mostly tinted green, TTT is mostly tinted blue, and ROTK is mostly tinted red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 35 minutes ago, mstrox said: Seeing them side by side, I'd certainly pick the theatrical version - but it's not something I ever notice when just watching the EE. I would never have known it was a thing until the internet told me. Even now I don’t think I really care. 2 hours ago, Holko said: Also will they finally reissue the extra documentaries from the limited EEs in a normal set? Were they in the big wooden shelf set? What do you mean? The Costa Boates (sp?) were released with the last BluRay set along with all the Appendices. The stuff from the original theatrical releases is all in standard def anyway and available cheaply so there’s no need to increase the price by adding additional discs. Hopefully there might be some new stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Yes when LOTR premiered on blu, they came packaged with all the special features that had been on all the DVD sets. In fact, they were even literally the same DVDs as the old sets. They didn't make new BD discs or HD transfers for them or anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 23 minutes ago, Jay said: They didn't make new BD discs or HD transfers for them or anything The material in the extras was shot on SD, so there's no point in doing an HD transfer or using a Bluray for them. As for the green tint in Fellowship of the Ring, its really not that bad, but I do hope they tone it down. In general, a more naturalistic look fits UHD better. No doubt this is building up on Amazon (and New Line's) TV series. Can't wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evanus 217 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Good, hopefully they'll find a way to release the Hobbit in HFR. And the complete recordings too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Chen G. said: The material in the extras was shot on SD, so there's no point in [...] using a Bluray for them. Since Blu ray discs can hold SD content, I would argue that instead of putting 9 DVD discs in the box set containing the special features, they could have included 2 Blu Ray discs that held the same content instead. mstrox and Chen G. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, Evanus said: Good, hopefully they'll find a way to release the Hobbit in HFR. At the moment I'm more interested in aspect ratio. Will we ever get to see The Hobbit composed for 2:1, as it was for IMAX? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 963 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 • We're talking EE, right ? • BTW, lotr was shot on film, right ? Hope they re scan everything! EDIT: Oh, and I forgot… FINAL-***KING-LY ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 Chen do you have a 2:1 TV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 It requires less letterboxing of the image on a 16:9 TV. Plus, I’d be interesting to appreciate how some of the shots were composed for the taller aspect ratio. I suppose the filmmakers considered the 2.41:1 the better composed of the two frames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 What about 4:3? @Thekthithm needs that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Wasn't the color problem with the FotR EE only present on the Blu-ray? I remember that looking strikingly off, while the EE DVD looks the same as the TC. That said, I went to a cinema last year where they screened the Extended Editions off a DCP and FotR had the correct colors. So there should be a proper hi-res version out there. I hope they use it for the new discs. Also, now would be the time to finally release those Ultimate Edition bonus materials they held back on all those years ago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Yeah the fact that it's only the FotR EE and only on the bluray really seems to point at it being unintentional. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwalin 0 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 By the way, there are fan-made Extended Edition of the Fellowship of the Ring without green: LOTR EE color re-grade and 44rh1n’s “The Fellowship of the Ring” Extended Edition Color Restoration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 On 10/10/2019 at 5:37 PM, John said: Looks like the LOTR and Hobbit trilogies are finally getting 4K UHD releases! Further confirmation from The Digital Bits: Quote There have been a lot of rumors floating around regarding the 4K Ultra HD release of Peter Jackson’s The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings films in recent weeks. As many of you know, Amazon has a new Lord of the Rings [prequel] TV series coming to Amazon Prime in 2021. So this means Warner will want to get the Jackson films out on 4K around the same time. What I can tell you is this: I’ve confirmed with multiple sources now that work is underway in New Zealand to prepare new 4K masters of these films. The work is moving at a slow but steady pace. We don’t yet know which versions of the films are being prepared, but Warner will almost certainly want both finished on 4K at some point. If the studio follows past release patterns, it would be reasonable to assume that the Theatrical Editions will be released first, followed by the Extended Editions later (but this is just speculation). As for when you’ll see them on physical 4K, it’s possible they could be done in time for the holidays this year (sometime in Q4) or they could appear in early 2021. Again, much of this is still TBD. But the films are indeed coming. 4K Filme says that a six-film boxset is coming out in October. toothless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Was the CGI in those films rendered in 2k? If so I wonder if they're going to spend any time redoing shots or if they'll just upscale them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 They should reduce the ridiculous blooming while they're at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Finally Tauriel the way she was meant to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 More importantly: will we finally get all that 20th Anniversary Edition goodness that was promised back in 2002? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Proper deleted scenes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,527 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 If each Middle Earth film had all of its deleted scenes put back in, what would be the running time of each film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Five days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: If each Middle Earth film had all of its deleted scenes put back in, what would be the running time of each film? Shorter than any of The Hobbit movies. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,527 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Five days. 2 minutes ago, Quintus said: Shorter than any of The Hobbit movies. Fools of a Took! I'm just curious to learn how much more there is, that can be reinserted (no sniggering, at the back!) into each film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: I'm just curious to learn how much more there is, that can be reinserted (no sniggering, at the back!) into each film. How much can be inserted at the back? Well, I guess that depends... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,527 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Depends on what, Dex? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: If each Middle Earth film had all of its deleted scenes put back in, what would be the running time of each film? The rough cut of The Fellowship of the Ring was four-and-a-half hours. Return of the King was closer to five, I think The Battle of the Five Armies was well over three, as well. I don't think any of this footage will (or should) be reinstated into the films. Maybe a few revisions to tie the six films together but that's it, in my mind. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 I personally don't want any more in the way of new inserted scenes into extra extended cuts. Deleted scenes as additional bonus material could be interesting though. But don't make the official cuts any longer than what they already are, it's already exhaustive enough. I've even been toying with the idea of making my own cuts recently. There's always been a couple of bothersome sequences in the LotR EEs which I'd ideally like removed, to the extent that I tend to prefer the theatricals for this reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 I vastly prefer the extended cuts, although as with any films there are things one likes and dislikes: I don't need to bother recutting a film myself just because there's something in it that bothers me. I'm all for a deleted scenes featurette. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Well, I really HATE the EE Hobbiton opening of FOTR to the extent that I can't abide that cut of the film - even though there are a couple of vital additions made to the film later on. So after nearly twenty years of ignoring my nitpicks, I think i might finally approach a version of my own making as a simple hobbyist's pastime one weekend.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 If I were making this set, I’d definitely do a version of “Concerning Hobbits” that slightly shorter, and slightly less reliant on voiceover, but I’m talking maybe thirty seconds’ difference and a line or two less, at the most, and I’d probably add other stuff to the sequence instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 I’ve seen FOTR-TR and FOTR-EE once each, both in theaters; I thought the latter was a much better film. Better pacing, despite overall length. And, of course, a better adaptation of the source material. For the other two movies, I have only seen the EEs, so I can’t compare them to the TRs, but, it seemed like a good chunk of their lengths were devoted to original material which wasn’t very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 963 Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 https://www.thedigitalfix.com/film/home-releases-news/middle-earth-20th-anniversary-4k-blu-ray/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 But what kind of wood will the bookshelf be made of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 It will be made of ents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kühni 485 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 On 7/6/2020 at 4:04 PM, Jurassic Shark said: It will be made of ents. Bilbo and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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