Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 So a very good "popular" movie will be permanently prevented from winning outright? It is dejure now? Sometimes the best movie of the year is not the most "artistic." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,612 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 I think it's all to get viewers, which I'm sure they want. I don't have a lot of stakes, because I don't watch the Oscars much anymore. When I do, I'll miss some of those "smaller" categories - their winners seemed more meaningful and winners' speeches were usually more exciting than seeing ol' celebrities holding trophies. I think the new category is dumb, especially since they expanded the best picture category and "popular" pictures frequently get nominations. Hell, even before that Titanic and Return of the King won best picture. Sounds like an MTV Movie Awards thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post John 2,032 Posted August 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2018 I can think of a dozen choices off the top of my head more deserving of their own category besides "most popular film." Best Motion Capture Performance Best Choreography/Stunt Performances Best Voice Acting in an Animated Film etc, etc... crumbs, leeallen01, Gnome in Plaid and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2018 We won't even get to see Williams win his career capping Oscar for Star Wars Episode IX I say boo. I've never minded the length. the new category seems to preclude a movie being hugely popular and worthy of awarding Best Picture. Fuck that noise. Holko, Will and SteveMc 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Just now, mstrox said: When I do, I'll miss some of those "smaller" categories - their winners seemed more meaningful and winners' speeches were usually more exciting than seeing ol' celebrities holding trophies. Yes! 1 minute ago, mstrox said: I think the new category is dumb, especially since they expanded the best picture category and "popular" pictures frequently get nominations But they never win. 2 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: We won't even get to see Williams win his career capping Oscar for Star Wars Episode IX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 I'm more furious about this bullshit the more I think about it. That new category especially, which makes NO sense. So if this category had been there in 2003, would Return of the King been eligible for best "popular" film but not Best Picture? I really don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,612 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 I'd much rather see an Unpopular Films category crumbs and Nick1Ø66 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 And what about something like The King's Speech? It's a traditional prestige-y film, but that movie made a truckload of money. Does making money make you ineligible for BP???? I just don't get it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,939 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Ozzzzcarzzzz. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2018 The Academy today: It really is disgraceful and disrespectful to take the more technical categories out of the telecast. Where else do you get to see these craftspeople and artisans get recognition for their work? Fuuuuuuuck this. 4 minutes ago, crocodile said: Ozzzzcarzzzz. Karol Buzzzzzzz off Taikomochi, crumbs and SteveMc 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,612 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 I would bet that eligibility for "popular film" won't affect eligibility for "Best Picture" I'd also bet that there will be a People's Choice (non Academy) component - either in the nominations, the winner, or both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 1 minute ago, mstrox said: I would bet that eligibility for "popular film" won't affect eligibility for "unpopular film." I'd also bet that there will be a People's Choice (non Academy) component - either in the nominations, the winner, or both. I can't wait for them to announce Zendaya as the host and Selena Gomez to present Best Adorkable Performance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,612 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 not sure why I typed "unpopular film" there, so I edited above you, stu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Best Wig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicPerson13 9 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, mstrox said: I would bet that eligibility for "popular film" won't affect eligibility for "unpopular film." And yet we've seen from reading the "Honest Oscar Ballots" that the Hollywood Reporter publishes every year that many voters are too self-absorbed to be fair about these things. Most likely, voters will see that there's no need to vote a certain film for Best Picture if they think it is likely to take home the Best Popular Film award. SteveMc and Disco Stu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 So from now on, more boring Moonlight type flicks will get Best Pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said: Best Wig. Doritos Presents OMG It's the Oscarz!!!! Yolo!! Brought to you by fidget spinners 3 minutes ago, mstrox said: not sure why I typed "unpopular film" there, so I edited above you, stu Except that's basically what they've turned traditional Best Picture into! As someone who genuinely loves that "mid-budget middlebrow studio financed prestige picture" category of films (think Focus Features, Sony Pictures Classics, etc.) this is so disappointing. The Oscars is basically the only thing that motivates the big studios to finance those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,216 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Best Bad Film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, MusicPerson13 said: And yet we've seen from reading the "Honest Oscar Ballots" that the Hollywood Reporter publishes every year that many voters are too self-absorbed to be fair about these things. Most likely, voters will see that there's no need to vote a certain film for Best Picture if they think it is likely to take home the Best Popular Film award. To be fair, I'm sure the Hollywood Reporter looks for the most inflammatory, reactionary people for those. All bout dem clicks. And the voting membership of the Academy is kind of a questionmark right now with all the new members that have come in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Glóin the Dark said: Best Bad Film Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicPerson13 9 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Disco Stu said: To be fair, I'm sure the Hollywood Reporter looks for the most inflammatory, reactionary people for those. All bout dem clicks. And the voting membership of the Academy is kind of a questionmark right now with all the new members that have come in. You've got a point there. Two points, rather. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,216 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Best Title with a Colon in It Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said: I would have voted for this to win Best Short Film in 1987 The new category should just be called Best Marvel Picture. It was clearly created so they could give Black Panther an Oscar. EDIT: lol a better version of my above joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 The thoughts of something like Avengers 4 winning best popular film. Grim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nick1Ø66 4,667 Posted August 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2018 So ratings are down? Huh. I don't know. Maybe telling the ulta-priveldged people accepting and receiving the awards to lay off the sanctimonious, hypocritical speeches during what's supposed to be an entertaining awards show about celebrating cinema might be a good idea also. As far as a "popular film" award, it's destined to be considered a second tier award that has a virtual asterisk next to it. And something that will no doubt be roundly mocked. Just the idea of it is sort of insulting, and I'd think the winners might even be a little embarrassed. Naïve Old Fart, Holko and Unlucky Bastard 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Bilbo said: The thoughts of something like Avengers 4 winning best popular film. Grim. Hey, Infinity War was great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Does this mean Basket Case is now Oscar-worthy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Nick1066 said: So ratings are down? Huh. I don't know. Maybe telling the ulta-priveldged people accepting and receiving the awards to lay off the sanctimonious, hypocritical speeches during what's suppose to be an entertaining awards show about celebrating cinema might be a good idea also Hollywood hacks demand higher taxes and better health insurance premiums for low income brackets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,053 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Wakanda’s getting an Oscar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,045 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Woah, that's a lot of posts for one thread to get on a single lunch break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Just now, Jay said: Woah, that's a lot of posts for one thread to get on a single lunch break Ha! Oscars is my sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,053 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 21 minutes ago, Jay said: Woah, that's a lot of posts for one thread to get on a single lunch break Who said said I was at lunch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,045 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 I was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,612 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Best Jason's Lunch Bilbo and Glóin the Dark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Reminds me of the kids at school who were assigned to create their own fake radio station, they called it 2W-Lunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Glóin the Dark 1,216 Posted August 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2018 Part X: Jason's Lunch Eat or be eaten... mstrox, Unlucky Bastard, Smeltington and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Koray Savas said: Thoughts? About F***ING Time. I really dont give a shit about some Documentary filmmaker's plight in Humanizthan and his country's dwindling purple martin population because of some blight in his nations supply of giant goards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Trump-fan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 We make popcorn movies, we love popcorn movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,385 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Absolutely rubbish move from the Academy. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,450 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 3 hours ago, Glóin the Dark said: Best Title with a Colon in It Followed by: Best Title With An Intestine In It. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 10 minutes ago, Thor said: Absolutely rubbish move from the Academy. You are 100 % wrong. Movies are supposed to be accessible to people. But lately elitest snobs and too many millennial voters have turned the Oscars into a love fest for bizzare films that are instantly forgettable. No way films like TiTanic and Return of the King would win in the current climate without a change. The best part is all the people bitching do not know what the hell for. I'm sure there is thought being put forth on how make it work. Tweaking will be necessary no doubt. This is a long time coming. Popular doesn't mean its not the best. JAWS and ET were certainly deserving of best and both were most popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,667 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 There's an easier way to solve this than creating a new category. Just create a new rule that no film can be nominated for best picture unless it grosses at least 100 mil USD (domestic). Bob's yer uncle, you guarantee a popular film wins the top award. Academy, you're welcome. Bayesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,385 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Well, at least it will give Cannes an extra boost (and all the other film festivals), you know awards that actually award the films for quality! The Oscars are basically performing Harakiri with this decision, and they will no doubt feel the consequences in the years to come. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they changed it back at some point. Taikomochi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Thor said: Well, at least it will give Cannes an extra boost (and all the other film festivals), you know awards that actually award the films for quality! That is what this is doing. The supposed films of "lesser quality" will just be given a participation trophy that leaves the top spot open to the kind of films that are generally viewed as higher art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,385 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 A colleague of mine formulated the idiocy of this very well in this short piece: http://montages.no/2018/08/in-memoriam-oscar-utdelingen-har-avgatt-ved-doden-90-ar-gammel/ (in Norwegian; use Google Translate). RIP, Oscars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 The Palme d’Or has a wildly inconsistent track record with me. Lot of dull shit wins it. Lot of great films too of course. Besides there’s nothing wrong with the Oscars being for awarding the more middlebrow fare. Everybody has their role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 I was not at all clear in my above post. What this is doing is making the Oscars even more highbrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Just now, Steve McQueen said: I was not at all clear in my above post. What this is doing is making the Oscars even more highbrow. I disagree completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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