King Mark 3,625 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Which do you prefer Seriously I can't pick a favorite one but edging on the new version Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 The new one, especially as it was performed in Glasgow. The way Williams integrates the melody with some of his more recent sensibilities is absolutely wonderful to me. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted August 9, 2018 Author Share Posted August 9, 2018 I think the BPO Williams conducted one is way better though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 796 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 The new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 No Youtube links? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,300 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 I love them both for different reasons 1980 version: 2018 version: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Just now, Jay said: I love them both for different reasons Thats the answer you give to the question who of you two children do you love most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,300 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 No, you would say you love them both equally in that case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 But thats impossible, so obviously a lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 The new version plays around a little more, elaborates on old ideas, and offers a more original orchestration. But I think nothing beats the original. Both are fantastic pieces, but the original is just a classic, still the best version. Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pellaeon 593 Posted August 9, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 9, 2018 1980 version: 2018 version: The 1980 is the definitive concert piece on the theme of these characters’ romance in ESB. It IS “Han Solo and the Princess from The Empire Strikes Back.” The 2018 is a wistful, thoughtful, grand piece exploring (Leia contemplating?) the vast sweep of the characters’ history together — their ESB romance, the tragedy of their son and their estrangement, their reuniting, and Han’s death. Also, on a meta level, Carrie Fisher’s death. So to me it’s more a sequel to the original than an “arrangement.” If pressed, I rank the original slightly higher, but admittedly nostalgia plays a role. ESB means more to me, and young love is thrilling. But to me they serve different narrative functions. _deleted_, SteveMc, Score and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,300 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Just now, Pellaeon said: The 1980 is the definitive concert piece on the theme of these characters’ romance in ESB. It IS “Han Solo and the Princess from The Empire Strikes Back.” The 2018 is a wistful, thoughtful, grand piece exploring (Leia contemplating?) the vast sweep of the characters’ history together — their ESB romance, the tragedy of their son and their estrangement, their reuniting, and Han’s death. Also, on a meta level, Carrie Fisher’s death. So to me it’s more a sequel to the original than an “arrangement.” Exactly how I feel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Sorry John, but the original version is the "Chosen One" for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, Pellaeon said: The 2018 is a wistful, thoughtful, grand piece exploring (Leia contemplating?) the vast sweep of the characters’ history together — their ESB romance, the tragedy of their son and their estrangement, their reuniting, and Han’s death. Also, on a meta level, Carrie Fisher’s death. So to me it’s more a sequel to the original than an “arrangement.” This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Original. When I hear the new arrangement it just makes me want to hear the original. Bryant Burnette and Erik Woods 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 I wasn't aware there was a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,304 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 19 hours ago, Jay said: I love them both for different reasons 1980 version: "The uploader has not made this video available in your country." I've never heard the original version so I prefer the new version by default. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted August 10, 2018 Author Share Posted August 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, crumbs said: "The uploader has not made this video available in your country." I've never heard the original version so I prefer the new version by default. just type Han solo and the Princess in You tube and you'll get a bunch of videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 20 hours ago, King Mark said: Which do you prefer Seriously I can't pick a favorite one but edging on the new version I bet you are, filthy bugger. Will and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,304 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 How crude. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,300 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 8 hours ago, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said: I wasn't aware there was a new one. http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/28233-john-williams-new-han-solo-and-the-princess-arrangement-debuted-2018/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Does Drax listen to John Williams music? Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 The original. The novelty with the revised version is that Williams has conducted it live after all these years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Does Drax listen to John Williams music? I love guitar music. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Just now, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said: I love guitar music. Funny you should mention that. As we all know, in the earlier days of the internet it was very common to see sites mixing up JW the composer and JW the guitarist due to bad categorization/tagging. I haven't seen much of it in years, but just today I was looking at my Youtube home page and saw this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Like how the original Han Solo and The Princess weaves in a beautiful quote of Leia's Theme, I think it would be great fun if JW went back to that original composition and worked in a quote of Han's new theme(s) as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,300 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Oh I don't like that idea at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Well it will never happen but it could work with Han's searching theme. I think it could be worked in effectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Revised version of course. Williams is now at his best. I love the original very much also. Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Did they make the new version officially available yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, Quintus said: Did they make the new version officially available yet? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Bummer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Its a new piece, give it time. It took a few years for Marion's Theme to be officially released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 I haven't even bothered to listen to the new Solo theme he wrote yet, so I'll be okay to wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,304 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 After listening to both, I vote the revised version. There's something more wistful, melancholic and ruminative about it, a more thought-provoking interpretation of the theme. But I love the interpretation of each piece reflecting the time in which they were made, and both pieces reflect the state of their relationship at the time. Clearly their love has resulted in great tragedy and untold suffering, and the revised version reflects that perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 I never liked the original much anyway, so it's an easy improvement to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aescalle 122 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 The Han Solo and the Princess rendition last night from Tanglewood was incredible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 hour ago, aescalle said: The Han Solo and the Princess rendition last night from Tanglewood was incredible! Yeah it's beautiful, but it still elongate the final crescendo a little bit too long for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,304 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 I didn't hear it, any clips as yet from Tanglewood?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Score 770 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 On 8/10/2018 at 6:02 PM, Disco Stu said: Funny you should mention that. As we all know, in the earlier days of the internet it was very common to see sites mixing up JW the composer and JW the guitarist due to bad categorization/tagging. I even had an officially-released CD with a selection of classical pieces from some catalogue of recordings, which included stuff like the opening chorus of Carmina Burana, some symphony movements and similar material, and closed with the Raiders' March (the only film cue in the CD). In the booklet, matching the name of John Williams, there was the guitarist's photo! This was a few years pre-internet. I had no other sources and no reason to suspect a mistake, so for several years I associated in my mind the composer with a wrong picture. It was quite funny when I saw the Star Wars interview a few years later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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