Brundlefly 2,385 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Two questions: What are your 10 Holy Grails right now? Which former Holy Grails have been completed since 2015? Please, exculde the two big franchises, Star Wars and Indiana Jones, because they would occupy the lists almost completely in most cases. My Holy Grails: Amistad War of the World The Witches of Eastwick Mulan Air Force One JFK Born on the Fourth of July U.S. Marshals Minority Report Leviathan Former Holy Grails: The Lost World Jurassic Park A.I. Artificial Intelligence The Ghost and the Darkness Dracula The Mummy Small Soldiers The Haunting The Omen Papillon So in general it was a good treat: The Lost World Jurassic Park A.I. Artificial Intelligence Amistad The Ghost and the Darkness Dracula War of the Worlds The Witches of Eastwick The Mummy Mulan Air Force One Small Soldiers JFK Born on the Fourth of July The Haunting The Omen Papillon U.S. Marshals Minority Report Leviathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Child's Play 2. That's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 I'm all good. I think I have everything now. Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 Just now, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said: I'm all good. I think I have everything now. And what did you get that you still needed in 2015? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 I don't think I have any Holy Grails apart from Matessino doing all of HP-IJ-SW at the moment. Maybe the 2 HTTYDs, but neither are missing essential material. Complete Hobbits would be nice but what they include would be tricky and I'd need a few listens before committing, they wouldn't be an instabuy. This may change in the coming weeks when I finally watch War Horse or something. I only have releases I haven't bought yet but planning to as Grails. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,689 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Since you're excluding Star Wars, Middle-Earth and Harry Potter, I really don't have any "holy grail" scores right now (other than those). But as your thread title doesn't limit this to scores.... I want to see Deep Space Nine on Blu-Ray, that's my Holy Grail. And it's truly a Holy Grail, because it's something that will likely never be attainable. I'd also like to see one of my favourite films, Educating Rita, properly released on Blu-Ray. It was recently released on BD in the UK, but the damn thing was taken from a transfer that was apparently created for a UK DVD and thus suffers from PAL speed up, making it worthless to me. Hopefully there will be a US release soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 My current holy grails (in no particular order): Willow The Land Before Time Apollo 13 Air Force One King Kong (Shore) War of the Worlds Minority Report X-Men: The Last Stand Spider-Man 3 Dracula My former holy grails (at least some of them): The Mummy Returns A.I. Artificial Intelligence The Lost World: Jurassic Park Return to Oz The Lion King Close Encounters of the Third Kind The Rocketeer Batman Returns Star Trek: The Motion Picture Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Just now, crocodile said: My current holy grails (in no particular order): Willow The Land Before Time Apollo 13 Air Force One King Kong (Shore) War of the Worlds Minority Report X-Men: The Last Stand Spider-Man 3 Dracula My former holy grails (at least some of them): The Mummy Returns A.I. Artificial Intelligence The Lost World: Jurassic Park Return to Oz The Lion King Close Encounters of the Third Kind The Rocketeer Batman Returns Star Trek: The Motion Picture Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow Karol That's a great list of scores! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Grails: The High And The Mighty King Kong (Shore) Reincarnation Of Peter Proud Honey I Shrunk The Kids COMPLETE The Old Man And The Sea A Shot In The Dark Return Of The Pink Panther To Kill A Mockingbird Air Force One HP:POA Psycho Marnie The Trouble With Harry The Devil and Daniel Webster Better sounding versions of: On Dangerous Ground It’s Alive! The Jungle Book (Rozsa) The Satan Bug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 What was missing from the existing Honey, I Shrunk the Kids? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 The Bee cue for one. Horner was involved in the release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Well I got Ten Commandments, Lost World, and Rocketeer in ‘16. Sky Captain and Mummy more recently. Those are the most recent true grails that finally got released for me. I of course loved getting ET and CE3K last year but they weren’t grails at the time. Secret of Nimh is definitely still a grail. Azkaban remains number 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 21 minutes ago, El Jefe said: The Bee cue for one. Horner was involved in the release. A bee cue for a B-score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Home Alone 2 OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,174 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Nick1066 said: I want to see Deep Space Nine on Blu-Ray, that's my Holy Grail. And it's truly a Holy Grail, because it's something that will likely never be attainable. I probably have more film holy grails than soundtrack ones now. Classics that never made the jump to Blu-ray like Captian Blood, The Sea Hawk, Arsenic and Old Lace and Scaramouche, and newer films that apparently aren't considered commercially worthwhile enough, like De Palma's Femme Fatale and Leconte's La fille sur le pont. One of my remaining soundtrack holy grails is a complete Hallelujah Trail, which will never happen because the original recording is destroyed and nobody cares enough to do a re-recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,499 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 My holy grails? World peace, An end to poverty and hunger, Governments working together and being accountable, A decent education system, No more fear. In the big scheme of things, getting that extra 2 minutes of music, is crass, in the extreme. Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,471 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 I find 'holy grail' a curious term to use in this case, since it implies something almost unattainable, i.e. something unreleased. Most, if not all, of the titles in this thread already have perfectly fine soundtrack releases. They're out there. So I say what I always say in these threads -- anything completely unreleased by Elfman, Goldenthal and Williams (in particular STORY OF A WOMAN, ALCOA PREMIERE THEATRE and the symphony as my top three 'holy grails' for the latter). Plus a few other things, like score-only releases of Faltermeyer's FLETCH and TOP GUN or Moroder's SCARFACE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 14 minutes ago, Richard said: A decent education system Come to Norway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,689 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 23 minutes ago, Richard said: My holy grails? World peace, An end to poverty and hunger, Governments working together and being accountable, A decent education system, No more fear. The machines tried that. People wouldn't accept it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 3 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Home Alone 2 OST. Thin ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Remaining holy grail: DuckTales TV series The Last Crusade unreleased tracks in good sound quality Fulfilled holy grails: Jurassic Park 1 and 2 The Ten Commandments El Cid (predating 2015) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 384 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Current grails: Blade Runner Terminator 2 About Schmidt Brazil K-PAX Missing Apocalypse Now missing cues from Heat and Demolition Man Former grails: RoboCop 2 CETK complete A.I. complete Beverly Hills Cop Beverly Hills Cop II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Star Trek is too big a franchise for them to not upgrade the SD series. They need to milk them during the Trekkies' lifetimes and secure their future. It's just a matter of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I doubt we will see HD upgrades of further SD Trek shows simply because there's no money in it. TNG proved that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I guess I'll settle for 16:9 cropped versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 8 hours ago, Brundlefly said: Thin ice. I'd be surprised if it's not included the next time the complete score is released - it's practically the only extra there's left to include. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Big Trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Horner's Dynamic Range said: I guess I'll settle for 16:9 cropped versions. Why would you want that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 The less, the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 There's too much Star Trek as it is. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 Fuck, I forgot A.I.! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Current Holy Grails - completely unreleased scores John Williams - Sugarland Express John Williams - Storia di una donna Christopher Young - Spider-man 3 Lalo Schifrin - Earth Star Voyager Michael Giacchino - 50/50 James Horner - Romeo & Juliet James Horner - One Day In Auschwitz Chris Tilton & Andrea Datzman - Alcatraz Bruce Broughton, John Debney, Joel McNeely - The Orville Dave Porter - Better Call Saul Chad Seiter - Star Trek The Game Current Holy Grails - scores that have an OST but have never been officially expanded John Williams - Harry Potter 1 John Williams - The Attack of the Clones John Williams - Harry Potter 2 John Williams - Harry Potter 3 John Williams - The Revenge of the Sith John Williams - The Adventures of Tintin John Williams - War Horse John Williams - Lincoln John Williams - The Force Awakens John Williams - The BFG John Williams - The Last Jedi James Horner - Apollo 13 James Horner - Willow Jerry Goldsmith - Air Force One Howard Shore - The Hobbit Eric Serra - The Fifth Element Current Holy Grails - score that have a catalog release that isn't complete so a better expansion is warranted John Williams - Star Wars John Williams - The Empire Strikes Back John Williams - Raiders of the Lost Ark John Williams - The Return of the Jedi John Williams - Indiana Jones and The Temple of Doom John Williams - Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade John Williams - The Phantom Menace Mark Mancina - Speed 2 Cruise Control David Arnold - Tomorrow Never Dies David Arnold - Stargate Howard Shore - The Lord of the Rings Danny Elfman - The Nightmare Before Christmas Former Holy Grails that I am now satisfied by great recent specialty label releases John Williams - Jurassic Park John Williams - The Lost World John Williams - ET John Williams - CE3K John Williams - AI Danny Elfman - Batman Danny Elfman - Edward Scissorhands Danny Elfman - Batman Returns James Horner - The Wrath of Khan James Horner - The Rocketeer Alan Silvestri - Predator 2 Alan Silvestri - The Abyss ichael Kamen - Die Hard 3 Craig Safan - The Last Starfighter James Newton Howard - Waterworld Basil Poledouris - Starship Troopers David Arnold - Independence Day Smaug The Iron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, Jay said: David Arnold - Stargate Is there really anything substantial not included on the expanded release? The end credits suite is just awful and sounds like it was written in half an hour, so I hope you're not referring to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 15 minutes ago, Jay said: James Horner - Romeo & Juliet The world needs that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Just now, Steve McQueen said: The world needs that one. I though you were talking of me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 14 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Is there really anything substantial not included on the expanded release? The end credits suite is just awful and sounds like it was written in half an hour, so I hope you're not referring to that. Substantial? It's been a long time since I've seen the film so don't remember specifically what all the unreleased cues sound like, but the 1CD Varese Deluxe Edition is NOT complete, and I'd very much appreciate a 2CD complete version with all the cues. 6 minutes ago, Steve McQueen said: The world needs that one. It's amazing that not even a promo of his intended album has leaked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 16 minutes ago, Jay said: Substantial? It's been a long time since I've seen the film so don't remember specifically what all the unreleased cues sound like, but the 1CD Varese Deluxe Edition is NOT complete, and I'd very much appreciate a 2CD complete version with all the cues. Well, I think even the OST is too long (second half has a fair share of uninteresting cues), but if there are some good, unreleased cues I wouldn't mind interchanging them with the uninteresting ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 It would be interesting to hear your opinion on the Stargate OST, @Thor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 @Jay, except the franchise scores, you have only 4 John Williams Holy Grails and one if them is The BFG? That's very evil! What about Dracula, TWoE, Bot4J, JFK, Amistad, Minority Report and WotW? No love for the older non-franchise scores? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I would happily buy ALL of those without question, but I wouldn't consider any of them holy grails. Most of those I haven't even listened to the OST that many times It would be easy to just throw everything the man's ever written onto a grail list, but I tried to pair it down to more personal favorites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 You mean the ones I just compiled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Brundlefly said: What about Dracula, TWoE, Bot4J, JFK, Amistad, Minority Report and WotW? No love for the older non-franchise scores? I'd take expansions of all these over a complete Stargate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,471 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 3 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: It would be interesting to hear your opinion on the Stargate OST, @Thor. Love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Thor said: Love it! You don't find it to be too repetitive in the latter half? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,471 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 4 hours ago, Jay said: Current Holy Grails - completely unreleased scores John Williams - Sugarland Express John Williams - Storia di una donna Christopher Young - Spider-man 3 Lalo Schifrin - Earth Star Voyager Michael Giacchino - 50/50 James Horner - Romeo & Juliet James Horner - One Day In Auschwitz Chris Tilton & Andrea Datzman - Alcatraz Bruce Broughton, John Debney, Joel McNeely - The Orville Dave Porter - Better Call Saul Chad Seiter - Star Trek The Game Now THAT’S what I’m talking about! Proper holy grails! 1 minute ago, Jurassic Shark said: You don't find it to be too repetitive in the latter half? Not really. It’s a bit too action-heavy for my taste nowadays, but the nostalgia overrides it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Thor said: Not really. It’s a bit too action-heavy for my taste nowadays, but the nostalgia overrides it. There's too many notes. Just cut a few! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 @Jay What’s missing from the Burton box set release of The Nightmare Before Christmas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I don't think anything is missing, but I would love to buy a nice 2CD set of JUST that score. I didn't drop $500 to own the entire box set. Basically take all the NBXM material from discs 6, 14, and 16 and make a proper 2CD set out of it, with better sound quality (some of the instrumental tracks sound iffy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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