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Two questions:

What are your 10 Holy Grails right now?

Which former Holy Grails have been completed  since 2015?

 

Please, exculde the two big franchises, Star Wars and Indiana Jones, because they would occupy the lists almost completely in most cases.

Please, note that since I created this thread the part scored by John Williams of one of the big franchises, Harry Potter, got a complete release. The remaining Harry Potter scores can be included.

 

My Holy Grails:

  1. Amistad
  2. War of the World
  3. The Witches of Eastwick
  4. Mulan
  5. Air Force One
  6. JFK
  7. Lionheart
  8. U.S. Marshals
  9. Minority Report
  10. Leviathan

 

Former Holy Grails:

  1. The Lost World
  2. Jurassic Park
  3. A.I. Artificial Intelligence
  4. The Ghost and the Darkness
  5. Dracula
  6. The Mummy
  7. Small Soldiers
  8. The Haunting
  9. The Omen
  10. Papillon

 

So in general it was a good treat:

  1. The Lost World
  2. Jurassic Park
  3. A.I. Artificial Intelligence
  4. Amistad
  5. The Ghost and the Darkness
  6. Dracula
  7. War of the Worlds
  8. The Witches of Eastwick
  9. The Mummy
  10. Mulan
  11. Air Force One
  12. Small Soldiers
  13. JFK
  14. Lionheart
  15. The Haunting
  16. The Omen
  17. Papillon
  18. U.S. Marshals
  19. Minority Report
  20. Leviathan

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I don't think I have any Holy Grails apart from Matessino doing all of HP-IJ-SW at the moment.

Maybe the 2 HTTYDs, but neither are missing essential material.

Complete Hobbits would be nice but what they include would be tricky and I'd need a few listens before committing, they wouldn't be an instabuy.

This may change in the coming weeks when I finally watch War Horse or something.

I only have releases I haven't bought yet but planning to as Grails.

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Since you're excluding Star Wars, Middle-Earth and Harry Potter, I really don't have any "holy grail" scores right now (other than those). But as your thread title doesn't limit this to scores....

 

I want to see Deep Space Nine on Blu-Ray, that's my Holy Grail. And it's truly a Holy Grail, because it's something that will likely never be attainable.

 

I'd also like to see one of my favourite films, Educating Rita, properly released on Blu-Ray. It was recently released on BD in the UK, but the damn thing was taken from a transfer that was apparently created for a UK DVD and thus suffers from PAL speed up, making it worthless to me. Hopefully there will be a US release soon.

 

 

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My current holy grails (in no particular order):

 

Willow

The Land Before Time

Apollo 13

Air Force One

King Kong (Shore)

War of the Worlds

Minority Report

X-Men: The Last Stand

Spider-Man 3

Dracula

 

My former holy grails (at least some of them):

 

The Mummy Returns

A.I. Artificial Intelligence

The Lost World: Jurassic Park

Return to Oz

The Lion King

Close Encounters of the Third Kind

The Rocketeer

Batman Returns

Star Trek: The Motion Picture

Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow

 

Karol

 

 

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Just now, crocodile said:

My current holy grails (in no particular order):

 

Willow

The Land Before Time

Apollo 13

Air Force One

King Kong (Shore)

War of the Worlds

Minority Report

X-Men: The Last Stand

Spider-Man 3

Dracula

 

My former holy grails (at least some of them):

 

The Mummy Returns

A.I. Artificial Intelligence

The Lost World: Jurassic Park

Return to Oz

The Lion King

Close Encounters of the Third Kind

The Rocketeer

Batman Returns

Star Trek: The Motion Picture

Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow

 

Karol

 

 

 

That's a great list of scores!

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Grails:

 

The High And The Mighty

King Kong (Shore)

Reincarnation Of Peter Proud

Honey I Shrunk The Kids COMPLETE

The Old Man And The Sea

A Shot In The Dark

Return Of The Pink Panther

To Kill A Mockingbird

Air Force One

HP:POA

Psycho

Marnie

The Trouble With Harry

The Devil and Daniel Webster

 

 Better sounding versions of:

 

On Dangerous Ground

It’s Alive!

The Jungle Book (Rozsa)

The Satan Bug

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Well I got Ten Commandments, Lost World, and Rocketeer in ‘16.  Sky Captain and Mummy more recently.  Those are the most recent true grails that finally got released for me.  I of course loved getting ET and CE3K last year but they weren’t grails at the time.

 

Secret of Nimh is definitely still a grail.  Azkaban remains number 1.  

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2 hours ago, Nick1066 said:

I want to see Deep Space Nine on Blu-Ray, that's my Holy Grail. And it's truly a Holy Grail, because it's something that will likely never be attainable.

 

 

I probably have more film holy grails than soundtrack ones now. Classics that never made the jump to Blu-ray like Captian Blood, The Sea Hawk, Arsenic and Old Lace and Scaramouche, and newer films that apparently aren't considered commercially worthwhile enough, like De Palma's Femme Fatale and Leconte's La fille sur le pont.

 

One of my remaining soundtrack holy grails is a complete Hallelujah Trail, which will never happen because the original recording is destroyed and nobody cares enough to do a re-recording.

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I find 'holy grail' a curious term to use in this case, since it implies something almost unattainable, i.e. something unreleased. Most, if not all, of the titles in this thread already have perfectly fine soundtrack releases. They're out there.

 

So I say what I always say in these threads -- anything completely unreleased by Elfman, Goldenthal and Williams (in particular STORY OF A WOMAN, ALCOA PREMIERE THEATRE and the symphony as my top three 'holy grails' for the latter). Plus a few other things, like score-only releases of Faltermeyer's FLETCH and TOP GUN or Moroder's SCARFACE.

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Remaining holy grail:

DuckTales TV series 

The Last Crusade unreleased tracks in good sound quality 

 

Fulfilled holy grails:

Jurassic Park 1 and 2

The Ten Commandments 

El Cid (predating 2015)

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Current grails:

 

Blade Runner

Terminator 2

About Schmidt

Brazil

K-PAX

Missing

Apocalypse Now

missing cues from Heat and Demolition Man

 

 

Former grails:

 

RoboCop 2

CETK complete

A.I. complete

Beverly Hills Cop

Beverly Hills Cop II

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Current Holy Grails - completely unreleased scores

John Williams - Sugarland Express

John Williams - Storia di una donna

 

Christopher Young - Spider-man 3

Lalo Schifrin - Earth Star Voyager

Michael Giacchino - 50/50

James Horner - Romeo & Juliet

James Horner - One Day In Auschwitz
Chris Tilton & Andrea Datzman - Alcatraz

Bruce Broughton, John Debney, Joel McNeely - The Orville

Dave Porter - Better Call Saul

Chad Seiter - Star Trek The Game

 

Current Holy Grails - scores that have an OST but have never been officially expanded

John Williams - Harry Potter 1

John Williams - The Attack of the Clones

John Williams - Harry Potter 2

John Williams - Harry Potter 3

John Williams - The Revenge of the Sith

John Williams - The Adventures of Tintin

John Williams - War Horse

John Williams - Lincoln

John Williams - The Force Awakens

John Williams - The BFG

John Williams - The Last Jedi

 

James Horner - Apollo 13

James Horner - Willow

Jerry Goldsmith - Air Force One

Howard Shore - The Hobbit

Eric Serra - The Fifth Element

 

Current Holy Grails - score that have a catalog release that isn't complete so a better expansion is warranted

John Williams - Star Wars

John Williams - The Empire Strikes Back

John Williams - Raiders of the Lost Ark

John Williams - The Return of the Jedi

John Williams - Indiana Jones and The Temple of Doom

John Williams - Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade

John Williams - The Phantom Menace

 

Mark Mancina - Speed 2 Cruise Control

David Arnold - Tomorrow Never Dies

David Arnold - Stargate

Howard Shore - The Lord of the Rings

Danny Elfman - The Nightmare Before Christmas

 

 

Former Holy Grails that I am now satisfied by great recent specialty label releases

John Williams - Jurassic Park

John Williams - The Lost World

John Williams - ET

John Williams - CE3K

John Williams - AI

 

Danny Elfman - Batman

Danny Elfman - Edward Scissorhands

Danny Elfman - Batman Returns

James Horner - The Wrath of Khan

James Horner - The Rocketeer

Alan Silvestri - Predator 2

Alan Silvestri - The Abyss

ichael Kamen - Die Hard 3

Craig Safan - The Last Starfighter

James Newton Howard - Waterworld

Basil Poledouris - Starship Troopers

David Arnold - Independence Day

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6 minutes ago, Jay said:

David Arnold - Stargate

 

Is there really anything substantial not included on the expanded release? The end credits suite is just awful and sounds like it was written in half an hour, so I hope you're not referring to that.

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14 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

Is there really anything substantial not included on the expanded release? The end credits suite is just awful and sounds like it was written in half an hour, so I hope you're not referring to that.

 

Substantial?  It's been a long time since I've seen the film so don't remember specifically what all the unreleased cues sound like, but the 1CD Varese Deluxe Edition is NOT complete, and I'd very much appreciate a 2CD complete version with all the cues.

 

 

6 minutes ago, Steve McQueen said:

The world needs that one.

 

It's amazing that not even a promo of his intended album has leaked

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16 minutes ago, Jay said:

 

Substantial?  It's been a long time since I've seen the film so don't remember specifically what all the unreleased cues sound like, but the 1CD Varese Deluxe Edition is NOT complete, and I'd very much appreciate a 2CD complete version with all the cues.

 

Well, I think even the OST is too long (second half has a fair share of uninteresting cues), but if there are some good, unreleased cues I wouldn't mind interchanging them with the uninteresting ones.

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@Jay, except the franchise scores, you have only 4 John Williams Holy Grails and one if them is The BFG? That's very evil!

What about Dracula, TWoE, Bot4J, JFK, Amistad, Minority Report and WotW? No love for the older non-franchise scores?

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I would happily buy ALL of those without question, but I wouldn't consider any of them holy grails.  Most of those I haven't even listened to the OST that many times

 

It would be easy to just throw everything the man's ever written onto a grail list, but I tried to pair it down to more personal favorites

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1 hour ago, Brundlefly said:

What about Dracula, TWoE, Bot4J, JFK, Amistad, Minority Report and WotW? No love for the older non-franchise scores?

 

I'd take expansions of all these over a complete Stargate. :)

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4 hours ago, Jay said:

Current Holy Grails - completely unreleased scores

John Williams - Sugarland Express

John Williams - Storia di una donna

 

Christopher Young - Spider-man 3

Lalo Schifrin - Earth Star Voyager

Michael Giacchino - 50/50

James Horner - Romeo & Juliet

James Horner - One Day In Auschwitz
Chris Tilton & Andrea Datzman - Alcatraz

Bruce Broughton, John Debney, Joel McNeely - The Orville

Dave Porter - Better Call Saul

Chad Seiter - Star Trek The Game

 

Now THAT’S what I’m talking about! Proper holy grails!

1 minute ago, Jurassic Shark said:

 

You don't find it to be too repetitive in the latter half?

 

Not really. It’s a bit too action-heavy for my taste nowadays, but the nostalgia overrides it.

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I don't think anything is missing, but I would love to buy a nice 2CD set of JUST that score.  I didn't drop $500 to own the entire box set.

 

Basically take all the NBXM material from discs 6, 14, and 16 and make a proper 2CD set out of it, with better sound quality (some of the instrumental tracks sound iffy)

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