Quintus 5,399 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 On 9/17/2018 at 3:09 PM, Jay said: Yea, but it's too bad 1984 technology makes it look kinda fake. I wonder if they could improve that effect on a future 4K remaster. On 9/17/2018 at 4:12 PM, Jay said: No, you don't get it. With today's digital technology, you can add text to a screen and have characters or other other objects move behind or in front of it, and it looks absolutely perfect, like the text is was truly there on the set floating around, you can never tell the difference. In this film, however, there's a break when she goes in front of it because there's artifacts surrounding her body that ruin the effect. They didn't pull off the exact effect they wanted. That's what I'm talking about. On 9/18/2018 at 2:37 PM, Jay said: I disagree. They would have wanted it to look like she truly was standing in front of the text, and as I said in another post you didn't quote, it probably did look fine in theaters in 1984. I'm talking about when you watch it on home video on high def TVs, you see a shimmer around here that the filmmakers did not intend for you to see. That is what could be fixed with modern technology. Way to ruin a thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,028 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 On 9/17/2018 at 4:09 PM, Jay said: Yea, but it's too bad 1984 technology makes it look kinda fake. I wonder if they could improve that effect on a future 4K remaster. I'm sure George Lucas would volunteer to supervise that! 7 minutes ago, Josh500 said: It certainly makes more sense than KotCS! Everything makes more sense than KotCS! ... except Star Trek. Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,496 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 No way, dude! ROTLA, TLC, and KOTCS are all about one thing: family. The only thing that TOD is about is 2hrs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omen II 1,235 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 On 9/16/2018 at 10:14 AM, Nick1066 said: I agree, but I don't think anyone's complained in this thread about the presence of the dance number itself (though a lot of people have). It's more the fact that the dance number turns into sort of this fantasy with the huge hall. Again, doesn't bother me, but I get why some may find it a little odd in a movie like this. I have always assumed that the dance sequence at the beginning of the film was a homage to the kaleidoscopic dance sequences devised by Busby Berkeley in so many musicals of the 1930s and 1940s. Many of those sequences had a fantasy element which involved far more dancers and far more elaborate routines than the location in the movie would allow 'in real life'. I feel sure that Spielberg was just paying tribute to Busby Berkeley, especially as the film is set in the same period (the mid 1930s) as when those dance sequences were popular. Here is a typical example from Gold Diggers of 1935. Josh500 and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Temple of Doom is about an amoral grave robber trading invaluable artifacts with mobsters setting out on a journey for nothing but fortune and glory but ultimately understands the value pieces of stone can have to locals, and reunites children with their parents, going home empty-handed but morally victorious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 26 minutes ago, Richard said: The only thing that TOD is about is 2hrs. Whatchoo talking about? ToD is about family too! Indy, Willie, and Short Round. Family, and monkey brains... 12 minutes ago, Omen II said: Here is a typical example from Gold Diggers of 1935. Not sure why, but this video scares me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Holko said: Temple of Doom is about an amoral grave robber trading invaluable artifacts with mobsters setting out on a journey for nothing but fortune and glory but ultimately understands the value pieces of stone can have to locals, and reunites children with their parents, going home empty-handed but morally victorious. I read somewhere about a subplot where Indy goes down the river and actually recovers the other two stones. After returning the third stone to the villagers, he is ripped off by Willie and Short Round who fly off to the Cayman Islands to get married. It explains why Indy is still a college professor chasing antiques in RotLA, and not rich and famous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,028 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, phbart said: Willie and Short Round who fly off to the Cayman Islands to get married. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 What? Underage marriage was not forbbiden in the 1930's. 👩👦 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,028 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Still, that's too young! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 She was just after his fortune and glory. Anyway, she latter drowned him in the sea. Cause of death was rulled accidental and she inherited all his money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Short Round was tracking the Peacock's Eye in the late 40s or early 50s according to The Lost Journal of Indiana Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Maybe Willie plotted with Short Round to have him drowned so she could legally keep all the fortune and glory, as the police were closing in on them. So they picked a random asian boy like him, did all the dirty work, and once she got her hands on the money, they were supposed to go back to the US and split the money. But Willie ran away again, leaving Short Round with nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 10 hours ago, AIFan said: Hi all, Per Richard's earlier assertion that the opening to TOD is only a fantasy in Willie's mind (or was that a joke?), The entire song isn't in her mind, just the tap dancing part in the sparkly black room. 1:30-2:38 of the video in the main post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nick1Ø66 4,688 Posted September 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2018 I think they should bring back Short Round in the next one. Only now he has one eye and is bitter at Indy for abandoning him on a boat on the Yangtze. So today he's the henchman of the son of Belloq, bound for revenge. And they've already claimed their first victim: a kid called Mutt. phbart, Chen G. and Jurassic Shark 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Nope. Indiana Jones 5 should include a time-traveling device that undoes everything that happened and brings us back to the moment in which The Last Crusade ends. Its only one of the best endings in the history of film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,028 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 On 9/22/2018 at 3:46 PM, Nick1066 said: I think they should bring back Short Round in the next one. That would have been cool! Way more interesting than Mutt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Chen G. said: Nope. Indiana Jones 5 should include a time-traveling device that undoes everything that happened and brings us back to the moment in which The Last Crusade ends. And it might even "fix" The Last Jedi too, but one thing at a time Disney. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 No need to fix what ain’t broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Hence the quotations. Sorry, I may have just alerted Mattris. If there is indeed a Mattris down there...don't waken it. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,688 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 15 minutes ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: Hence the quotations. Sorry, I may have just alerted @Mattris. Cerebral Cortex and Mattris 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 I used to hate the opening number in Temple Of Doom as a kid. But as I got older I came to really appreciate it. Great fun way to kick off the movie. Temple Of Doom is the best Indy sequel, it's the only one that really tries to stand apart from Raiders. Smeltington and Gurkensalat 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 I totally agree with everything you said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 It was the first one I saw. Its a bonkers film really. But brilliantly done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,688 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 It's a good one, and it's grown on me. But TLC is still better IMO, despite being more or less a Raiders remake. The father/son stuff is excellent. On the other hand, TLC does tend to sag a bit in the middle, a problem TOD doesn't have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Nick1066 said: On the other hand, TLC does tend to sag a bit in the middle, a problem TOD doesn't have. The only thing in ToD that sags is the bridge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,028 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 I've always found ToD to be the one that sags the most in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 All the stuff in the Temple weighs it down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 I saw all three Indy's in order. I remember seeing Temple of Doom though on Xmas day, it was the big movie premiere on BBC 1 that afternoon. I guess that must have been '86 then. I even recall the complaints - they showed it uncut! A few years later I saw Last Crusade at the cinema while on holiday in Wales with my parents. What feels strange to me now is that I would see Jurassic Park only four years after that, which changed everything for a kid my age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 15 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: I've always found ToD to be the one that sags the most in the middle. It does. That's because it a) doesn't rely (intentionally so) on constant changes in location to keep up the pace, as adventure films are wont to do, and b) because the temple and what's being done there (and therefore, the plot) isn't revealed until quite late in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 The film is called Temple Of Doom! Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 My only real complaint of Temple Of Doom is that the main villain is introduced so late in the movie. Mola Ram is a scary guy and he should have been at the dinner table during the banquet scene at the Palace. Indy has that tense conversation with Chattar Lal during the meal, that should have been Mola Ram. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Mola Ram is a badass villain, the most vicious of all of the Indy films. He should've been included on AFI's list on villains. https://www.afi.com/100years/handv.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTR1701 59 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 On 9/16/2018 at 10:03 AM, Loert said: I would have loved for JW at some point to have been involved in a musical with the kind of "big" big band arrangements we see in Anything Goes. Like, imagine what he would have done had he arranged the music for a film version of "An American in Paris". He's so great at that kind of thing but it feels like we haven't seen enough of that side of him. Well, it's not big band, but Spielberg is doing a theatrical remake of WEST SIDE STORY. Perhaps JW will do the arrangements for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 I don't mean to revive an old thread, but I was just recently thinking about how well the very opening meshes with the Pankot palace material, so just for fun I cobbled together a kind of makeshift "suite" for Pankot Palace including the opening of Anything Goes. https://drive.google.com/file/d/18rAT142sClTkBWBjFlEG6JJJN8bX_C03/view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTenma 116 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 16 minutes ago, Manakin Skywalker said: I don't mean to revive an old thread, but I was just recently thinking about how well the very opening meshes with the Pankot palace material, so just for fun I cobbled together a kind of makeshift "suite" for Pankot Palace including the opening of Anything Goes. https://drive.google.com/file/d/18rAT142sClTkBWBjFlEG6JJJN8bX_C03/view Quite nice! My only small critique is that I don't think the transition between the vocals and the opening works as well as the remain of the cue. Manakin Skywalker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, DrTenma said: Quite nice! My only small critique is that I don't think the transition between the vocals and the opening works as well as the remain of the cue. I have to agree, that was sort of a last second addition I didn't have that in the first version: https://drive.google.com/file/d/13grss3UgaeMVE-AOIPmvHXutW00Yc3_5/view?usp=sharing DrTenma 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTenma 116 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 On 7/8/2021 at 2:28 PM, Manakin Skywalker said: I have to agree, that was sort of a last second addition I didn't have that in the first version: https://drive.google.com/file/d/13grss3UgaeMVE-AOIPmvHXutW00Yc3_5/view?usp=sharing That one is great! Manakin Skywalker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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