toothless 963 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 So Hedwig's theme confirmed. Breaking news. Pieter Boelen and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,067 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 What's a fanstastic beast? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post leeallen01 2,136 Posted November 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 3, 2018 Hedwigs theme was used for around 10 seconds in total screen time in Fantastic Beasts, so hopefully Crimes of Grindelwald will do the same. Just 1 time for the Warners logo and once for the establishing shot of Hogwarts will do fine. JNH's new stuff for every other second please. bollemanneke, Will, Pieter Boelen and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,343 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Drop Hedwig's theme already, she's not in this one anyway. TSMefford and A. A. Ron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post toothless 963 Posted November 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 3, 2018 DemonStar, Pieter Boelen, Will and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,067 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 2 hours ago, bollemanneke said: Drop Hedwig's theme already, she's not in this one anyway. She's just outside the frame in several scenes. Will and Luka 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Arpy 4,145 Posted November 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2018 They keep her carcass on standby but never gets any screentime. It's JNH's way of paying homage to such a deep and varied character. Will, bollemanneke and Jurassic Shark 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrbellamy 6,286 Posted November 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2018 Will we meet Hedwig’s parents? Luka, bollemanneke and Jurassic Shark 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 On 11/2/2018 at 4:59 AM, publicist said: It's this kind of early 90's Elfman stuff, very generic sound now. You can hear the JNH motif clearly in the second phrase of Silvestri's theme song to Polar Express. This tune is giving me major flashbacks to some other pretty familiar soundtrack theme/tune but I can't place my finger on it. Anyone have any ideas? I thought it was Edward Scissorhands but I just checked and it's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,286 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Grinch maybe. This opening melody... Or this setting of Where Are You Christmas Or Casper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 It's blueprint is most definitely 'Edwards Scissorhands', note especially the general orchestral setting and the ascending notes after 02:12. For a while, every score sounded like this, i. e. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 JNH's theme only shares a couple of notes of Scissorhands. The reason it feels like it, and Polar Express and Casper etc, is because they all express their themes in similar ways; with the magical orchestration choices and choir. TheUlyssesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 minute ago, leeallen01 said: JNH's theme only shares a couple of notes of Scissorhands. The reason it feels like it, and Polar Express and Casper etc, is because they all express their themes in similar ways; with the magical orchestration choices and choir. Don't excuse temp track love! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Music that felt derivative and simplistic in 'Casper' finally feels like a blessing in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PrayodiBA 517 Posted November 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2018 ^^ well, way before those scores, JNH did it first! JNH ripping JNH Luka, Pieter Boelen and leeallen01 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 3 hours ago, Arpy said: Don't excuse temp track love! JNH and Yates have both said no temp was used. Also Yates turned down about 10 themes JNH wrote for the main moments of the film, so temp would have had no relation anyway if it was used. He did about 42 takes on the opening logo alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 4 hours ago, publicist said: Music that felt derivative and simplistic in 'Casper' finally feels like a blessing in 2018. Awful, innit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 When did film score fans start acting like music didn't exist before 1994 or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 What do you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 I dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 3 hours ago, leeallen01 said: Also Yates turned down about 10 themes JNH wrote for the main moments of the film, so temp would have had no relation anyway if it was used. He did about 42 takes on the opening logo alone. Holy crap! For a director who got such 'meh' music for his Harry Potter films, it seems he sure has a lot to say about the music!! I really wonder how JNH managed to pull off what Hooper and Desplat didn't (for me). Also... Would any of those other themes have been recorded? Imagine what might be included in the sessions! TheUlyssesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 13 minutes ago, Pieter_Boelen said: Holy crap! For a director who got such 'meh' music for his Harry Potter films, it seems he sure has a lot to say about the music!! I really wonder how JNH managed to pull off what Hooper and Desplat didn't (for me). Also... Would any of those other themes have been recorded? Imagine what might be included in the sessions! Seriously Yates has some balls being picky. For a property as ripe for good music as Tarzan, he got the most uninspired score ever. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 963 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Pieter_Boelen said: Imagine what might be included in the sessions! Modern composers mock up this stuff on the computer. By the time JNH goes to the sessions these decisions have long been made. Pieter Boelen, bollemanneke and toothless 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 28 minutes ago, publicist said: Modern composers mock up this stuff on the computer. By the time JNH goes to the sessions these decisions have long been made. I was afraid of that. Well, then hopefully at least JNH will revisit the good bits he didn't use for the sequels instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 4 hours ago, Pieter_Boelen said: Holy crap! For a director who got such 'meh' music for his Harry Potter films, it seems he sure has a lot to say about the music!! I really wonder how JNH managed to pull off what Hooper and Desplat didn't (for me). Also... Would any of those other themes have been recorded? Imagine what might be included in the sessions! Most of the rejected themes were for the opening logos. He did a whole presentation on it at a composer talk I attended last year, where he played video and audio examples of how he settled on the opening logo music. The main 5 or so themes he wrote for the film were used in countless different ways over the opening logos, but Yates kept saying, quote: "that's nice, but it's not the one." JNH tried to use his main theme, his healing theme, the love theme, Newt's adventure theme, Kowalski's theme etc, and they all were rejected for the opening. But he of course used them for their respective characters and meaning elsewhere in the film, but eventually they agreed on that punchy Motif for Grindelwald as you see the Fantastic Beasts logo and through the opening sequence. Mr. Who and Pieter Boelen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Was that a motif for Grindelwald? In my memory it was only used 2 other times in the score, both in scenes that had nothing to do with Grindelwald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,286 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 I think it’s used for his reveal at the end, no? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 I'm gonna stick with Bloodboal's analysis until someone convinces me otherwise On 11/27/2016 at 6:28 PM, BloodBoal said: The Fantastic Beasts Theme To me, this is definitely NOT Grindelwald's theme, rather a theme for the creatures. It is used over the Fantastic Beasts logo, then for the scene with the Billywig and the scene with the Demiguise, so that would make more sense than it being a theme for Grindelwald. Disc 1 - 01. Main Titles: 00'19 - 00'38 / 01:23 - 01'34 Disc 2 - 03. Billywig: 00'01 - 00'21 Disc 2 - 04. The Demiguise And The Lollipop: 00'04 - 00'12 / 00'19 - End Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,343 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 The thematic meanings are a mess in that score anyway. I still want to know why that fantastic Macusa theme disappears after Pie or Strudel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: The thematic meanings are a mess in that score anyway. I still want to know why that fantastic Macusa theme disappears after Pie or Strudel. Well JNH calls that the Fantastic Beasts Theme now. On 10/31/2018 at 8:26 AM, Disco Stu said: I'm kind of glad he's decided just to call this just straight up the Fantastic Beasts Theme. There was quite a bit of debate over what to call different melodies with the first score as I remember. I seem to remember Bloodboal's breakdown referring to it as the "Wizarding World Theme" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,343 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 That makes it even more illogical... Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 3 hours ago, leeallen01 said: Most of the rejected themes were for the opening logos. He did a whole presentation on it at a composer talk I attended last year, where he played video and audio examples of how he settled on the opening logo music. The main 5 or so themes he wrote for the film were used in countless different ways over the opening logos, but Yates kept saying, quote: "that's nice, but it's not the one." JNH tried to use his main theme, his healing theme, the love theme, Newt's adventure theme, Kowalski's theme etc, and they all were rejected for the opening. But he of course used them for their respective characters and meaning elsewhere in the film, but eventually they agreed on that punchy Motif for Grindelwald as you see the Fantastic Beasts logo and through the opening sequence. It is the conspiracy theme and represents anything mysterious and nefarious happening in the plot. 1 hour ago, bollemanneke said: The thematic meanings are a mess in that score anyway. I still want to know why that fantastic Macusa theme disappears after Pie or Strudel. That's the main theme of the franchise. But it is used so poorly in the score that you wouldn't know it's the main theme at all. Such a great theme too but horribly underused in the movie. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka 242 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Can I just say... I CAN'T WAIT 'til Friday for the full score to come out!! 😱 And fore the movie too! A week after though Bofur01 and leeallen01 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 963 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 41 minutes ago, Luka said: Can I just say... I CAN'T WAIT 'til Friday for the full score to come out!! 😱 And fore the movie too! A week after though Well, given the world premiere is tomorrow in France at just a 10 minute walk from where I live, I might stop by and see if they broadcast some music Luka and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka 242 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Oh! We can hear some music in the background throughout this video! 😍 0:20 Variation of the Hero theme? 0:40 Dumbledore's Theme! leeallen01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Dumbledore's theme sounds gorgeous on strings! RELEASE THE SCORE ALREADY!!!!! Luka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 10 hours and it’s out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bofur01 245 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 8 hrs 11 mins! Gonna stay up until midnight for this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lord Zimmer 211 Posted November 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2018 Writing any good music for a Yates movie should earn you an Oscar. Cuaron needs to return. Once, Luka and Not Mr. Big 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 15 minutes ago, Lord Zimmer said: Writing any good music for a Yates movie should earn you an Oscar. 16 minutes ago, Lord Zimmer said: Cuaron needs to return. Eh.... A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka 242 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 It's like 12 hours and 35 minutes for me now 😕 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 New Zealanders and Australians! We need you! Luka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Had a brief listen on iTunes, sounds good. I'll wait until I see the film until I listen to any more. Luka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka 242 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 I got my hands on it!!! 😱 Gonna listen to it at work after lunch! haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 30 minutes ago, Luka said: I got my hands on it!!! 😱 Gonna listen to it at work after lunch! haha How!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted November 8, 2018 Author Share Posted November 8, 2018 It's Friday in New Zealand already. All of tomorrow's new music releases are therefore all over the internet already. This happens every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 I hope the 8 minute 'Thestral Chase' is as promising as it sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 I’m going out tonight so I’ll be able to have a quick listen before bed when I get home 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrayodiBA 517 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Consider myself disappointed,.. The score, is too slow to my liking. This score relies heavily on slow strings, but they dont go anywhere. A bit boring to be honest. This score also lacks cohesiveness ( themes start promising, only to disappear moments later ) ( again.... ) There are some decent highlights of course, especially when it goes action-fantasy. But unfortunately, there's very little of them Overall, this is a disappointment. Autopilot-JNH-fantasy-mode score ( * I mean, we just heard a grandeur that is HTTYD 3 snippett, and we need that inbetween, and FB2 fails to do just that) Pieter Boelen and Luka 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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