The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 He's good. Is he the best? I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 I like music, man. Who cares who's the best at making it!? Why must we rank or initiate competition? Can't we just...enjoy stuff? A24 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 4 hours ago, Bilbo said: Consistent is absolutely the last word I’d use when describing Gia. Consistent is absolutely the last word I’d use when describing anyone working in a creative field, including composers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 26 minutes ago, Chen G. said: Consistent is absolutely the last word I’d use when describing anyone working in a creative field, including composers. Why not? They're all professionals, dedicated to a chosen profession, and many establish a certain level of quality that can be expected with a given product. You like Martin Scorcese, Chen: when's the last time he's made a bad movie? Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 15, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2018 Best composer? No. Best film composer? No. One of the very few who seems deeply competent and thoughtful and capable of great stuff? Yes. 10 hours ago, kaseykockroach said: I like music, man. Who cares who's the best at making it!? Why must we rank or initiate competition? Can't we just...enjoy stuff? No people like to rank shit because it makes them more certain that their entirely subjective feelings are somehow true and they know better than everyone else. Will, Kasey Kockroach, publicist and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Like Newton Howard, his workhorse mentality (and the changing requirements for FILM music) has its drawbacks, i. e. too many easy-to-write minimalist patterns and atmospheric filler that do not necessarily generate much musical interest. But ability-wise, i think he could do anything. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,501 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 I've never liked Desplat, sorry. For me, he's too much of a one-trick pony, relying on endless ostinati and not enough thematic width. But there are exceptions, like THE PAINTED VEIL, L'ENNEMI INTIME, GIRL WITH THE PEARL EARRING etc., which I think are lovely. But for as much as I'm critical towards him, I don't have the strong 'hate' relationship like I do to most of Michael Giacchino's music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Hubba-wha? It's possible to hate Mikey Giacchino? But he's so good! He's the next John Williams! Rogue One rescued Star Wars music! You just don't understand because his writing's too complex for your feeble ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,501 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 45 minutes ago, kaseykockroach said: Hubba-wha? It's possible to hate Mikey Giacchino? But he's so good! He's the next John Williams! Rogue One rescued Star Wars music! You just don't understand because his writing's too complex for your feeble ears. I don't hate the person MG (never met him, only his sister; he seems like a genuinely nice fellow), only 99% of his music. Such strong words are not applicable to Desplat, however. Harsh criticism and general bafflement as to his popularity, perhaps, but not 'hate'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 I met his sister too! She interviewed me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Zimmer 211 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Yeah Zimmer is probably the only "old" master who could still by some stretch be said to be currently working. None of the next generation have distinguished themselves on that level yet, not even Alexandre. I am loathe to add to the chorus of Giacchino smack talk since I had such high hopes for him after Lost but the man needs a brush up on orchestration and recording for starters. Desplat at least has a much firmer grasp of sonics. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Zimmer 211 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, TGP said: Yeah Zimmer is probably the only "old" master who could still by some stretch be said to be currently working. None of the next generation have distinguished themselves on that level yet, not even Alexandre. OLD?! Man we need some new fresh blood, Hurwitz looking promising. Hopefully he can keep it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 He's good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Zimmer 211 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 1 minute ago, TGP said: He's good. Very melodic as well. Which kinda weirded me out (in a good way), didn't expect someone like him to rise up nowadays. Said he doesn't get offered much, which is a shame. As for Desplat: I feel mostly indifferent to most of his work. There is the occasional track I really like but overall, ehh. Same goes for Giacchino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, Lord Zimmer said: OLD?! Man we need some new fresh blood, Hurwitz looking promising. Hopefully he can keep it up. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Maybe you could lend him one Steef not Stiff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Hurwitz is fine. But I don't know if he's really got the chops for climbing up to the higher echelons of film music. As others have mentioned here, Desplat is one of the few stimulating and engaging artists working in film music today, so long as you steer him away from the usual oscar-bait costume dramas and big franchise flicks. He's usually most interesting outside of traditional idioms. Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 I do not use Viagra! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Of course you don't. How does a spambot use what it sells? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Stefancos said: I do not use Viagra! Sure you don’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 I don't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share Posted October 15, 2018 On 10/6/2018 at 12:43 PM, Stefancos said: My poor, well-intended thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 56 minutes ago, Thor said: I don't hate the person MG (never met him, only his sister; he seems like a genuinely nice fellow), only 99% of his music. Such strong words are not applicable to Desplat, however. Harsh criticism and general bafflement as to his popularity, perhaps, but not 'hate'. I was kidding. Hatred for Giacchino is amusingly cliche here. Also, don't you mean Balfe-ment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, Stefancos said: I don't! Look, it’s ok for men of your age. Nothing to be ashamed of. I’ve just realized we’ve set this up for a thread locker of a post from Bespin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 1 hour ago, TGP said: Yeah Zimmer is probably the only "old" master who could still by some stretch be said to be currently working. None of the next generation have distinguished themselves on that level yet, not even Alexandre. He lacks about 40 assistants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Frankly there's probably plenty going on under the hood even with someone like Desplat that the precious eyes of JWFan should avert from. Koray Savas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 I say it all the time! Most composers that produce the output of Desplat, McCreary, Neely, Balfe, etc. have established teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 How about Morricone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Nah he just plagiarized himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 How is it possible to steal from yourself anyway? If it was yours, then it's not stealing! I'm stealing my kitty so I can hug her! ❤️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 I know most will disagree with me, but personally I don't really care for his music much. He's decent when it comes to softer pieces, but I don't care much for his heavier, more action-oriented music. I was extremely relieved when it was announced he wasn't going to score Rogue One. I honestly think his score wouldn't have been very good (probably more along the lines of the generic recent Marvel/DC scores) 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 10 hours ago, TGP said: Frankly there's probably plenty going on under the hood even with someone like Desplat that the precious eyes of JWFan should avert from. That's why i only referred to 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 35 minutes ago, Manakin Skywalker said: He's decent when it comes to softer pieces, but I don't care much for his heavier, more action-oriented music. I agree, but then again, I don't care for big Hollywood action music. Desplat should do more offbeat movies, that's his forte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 34 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: I agree, but then again, I don't care for big Hollywood action music. Desplat should do more offbeat movies, that's his forte. Yep, exactly. He wasn't right for something like Star Wars, but he's perfect for some of those more avant-garde films. 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,501 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Manakin Skywalker said: I know most will disagree with me, but personally I don't really care for his music much. He's decent when it comes to softer pieces, but I don't care much for his heavier, more action-oriented music. I was extremely relieved when it was announced he wasn't going to score Rogue One. I honestly think his score wouldn't have been very good (probably more along the lines of the generic recent Marvel/DC scores) As I said back then, replacing Desplat with Giacchino on ROGUE ONE was like replacing ketchup with mustard on your breakfast cereal. Wrong either way. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post publicist 4,643 Posted October 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2018 But since SW is not only action music i would have been very interested what he came up with thematically and idiomatically for the broader canvas. Certainly not those half-assed brass triplets and one-finger piano tunes. Nick Parker, MikeH, Chewy and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,501 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 I doubt it would have been more interesting than his HARRY POTTER outings (which were equally disappointing), but I guess we'll never know. 1977 and Holko 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, publicist said: But since SW is not only action music i would have been very interested what he came up with thematically and idiomatically for the broader canvas. Certainly not those half-assed brass triplets and one-finger piano tunes. Star Wars as a whole is not purely action, but Rogue One itself was certainly mostly action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 5 hours ago, Koray Savas said: I say it all the time! Most composers that produce the output of Desplat, McCreary, Neely, Balfe, etc. have established teams. Balfe can’t even read music so he’s definitely got a team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 On 10/14/2018 at 8:21 PM, Nick Parker said: Is it me or does almost all of Desplat's music sound "polite"? I find it a bit soulless myself. Technically proficient but impossible to engage with (for me at least). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Those Potter scores should not be a benchmark for anything Desplat can do. He was obviously hamstrung. Now imagine Rogue One with something of Godzilla flavor. Could have improved the proceedings. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Probably not by much. Poor Gia did the best he could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Just now, Stefancos said: Poor Gia did the best he could. Yeah, that was a lot of the problem . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Those who hold such intensely bitter contempt for Giacchino's Rogue One remind me of Doby getting all irritable when there's a new dog around and starts pissing on everything to mark his territory due to feeling insecure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,355 Posted October 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2018 John Williams is the best composer currently working. 1977, Holko and Bayesian 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 What a shocking statement to declare on a forum called JWfan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Doesnt mean he's wrong! Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 But it's not iiiiiinnnnteresting! (Though, yes, he is wrong, but that is not an issue that strikes my intrigue) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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