Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Sounds like the consensus is people prefer movies to look bland and sterile. Ricard and Dixon Hill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 3 hours ago, Stefancos said: What are you talking about? Almost all VHS releases were P&S. In The States, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,359 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 33 minutes ago, Norma's Corpse said: Sounds like the consensus is people prefer movies to look bland and sterile. I don’t necessarily miss the dust specks but I do miss the “filmic” look of movies before they got cleaned up for HD or 4K home releases — which often turned them flat and sterile, like you say. Making it worse was the way this cleanup process made special effects look cheap and fake. Explosions especially. The old film feel smoothed the harsh edges on those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Back then they made it loud and clear. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, Iron_Giant said: I don’t necessarily miss the dust specks but I do miss the “filmic” look of movies before they got cleaned up for HD or 4K home releases — which often turned them flat and sterile, like you say. Making it worse was the way this cleanup process made special effects look cheap and fake. Explosions especially. The old film feel smoothed the harsh edges on those. Perhaps you are you referring to video noise reduction? 4 minutes ago, Norma's Corpse said: Back then they made it loud and clear. I admit, I was always on the lookout for black bars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share Posted October 15, 2018 The Searchers was the first Blu Ray I watched and I remember it had an almost 3D look to it. I realize this was probably due to the Vistavision, but I wish more films had this quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Why do you (and Drax) know so much about Cinemascope, Vistavision, Anamorphic and so on? Don't you prefer 4:3? Bilbo and Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,359 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Titanic is actually a great example — when it got cleaned up for Netflix or Amazon Prime or wherever I last watched it, the filmic charm was gone. The sinking scenes looked so much like they were shot on a studio lot.🙁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: Why do you (and Drax) know so much about Cinemascope, Vistavision, Anamorphic and so on? Don't you prefer 4:3? You gotta know your enemies... Gruesome Son of a Bitch and A24 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,220 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 17 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: In The States, yes. I live in Western Europe, and it was only from around the mid-90s that it became commonplace for widescreen versions of films to be available on video here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 I guess I forgot the early VHS days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Wide-screen was NEVER common in VHS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 I remember they made a "Special Widescreen Presentation" for Multiplicity when it first aired on cable TV in 1997. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,220 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 7 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Wide-screen was NEVER common in VHS. From the mid-90s onwards, I was generally able to get widescreen versions of the films I wanted (for sale, that is, not rental). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Sure, but they never replaced full screen tapes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share Posted October 15, 2018 You had to go to Suncoast and hope they had the widescreen alternative. Full screen was still common for a while in the US when DVD and widescreen TVs were popular, so you had to make sure you picked the right version. The jet black bars made the movies look more cinematic on your Sony Trinitron. I think there was more nudity in the 4:3 Titanic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 7 hours ago, Stefancos said: Old people! You're one to talk, oldster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Yob! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 u wot granpa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Speak up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Will you two keep the noise down? This is a serious thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,041 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Indubitably! I do have a certain nostalgia for the dirty film look Justin's talking about, but I generally prefer the clean look of modern digital projectors...with the major caveat being that I still prefer the look of stuff shot on film (especially during the 80s and 90s). Give me that, but projected with modern equipment, and I'm a happy camper. That's not to say everything shot nowadays looks horrible to me...I just don't have as strong an association between that look and the cinematic experience. I'm sure it'd be different if I grew up in the 2010s. Ricard and Gruesome Son of a Bitch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post A24 4,331 Posted October 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2018 Really? I think digital projection is downright terrible with awful image quality (at least in the theatres in my city). It's the main reason why I never go see movies in theatres. Nothing beats a German 35mm/70mm film projector and a fresh release print. For Drax & Dynamic: Ciné Trinitron Naïve Old Fart, Unlucky Bastard and Bilbo 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 And it's in Academy Ratio! With rounded corners! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,337 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Alex, Datameister lives near LA. The digital screens there are absolutely better than the ones you're describing from your area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Anyone else miss Bridget Fonda? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,337 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Definitely. She was great in Jackie Brown! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, Jay said: Alex, Datameister lives near LA. The digital screens there are absolutely better than the ones you're describing from your area. I dunno, what we have here is supposed to be state of the art (Laser projection) and everyone raves about the quality, but to me color or contrast are sorely lacking. Have to check the theatres in L.A. to see if there's truly a difference. 5 minutes ago, Jay said: Definitely. She was great in Jackie Brown! One of Tarantino's best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,041 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 I don't know how much better the theater setups are out here, but I do remember the earliest films I saw in digital, and they looked pretty "computery" to be. Same goes for non-CRT TVs/monitors. Now I have no such issues. I assume the technology has just gotten better, but maybe I've adjusted too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 16, 2018 Author Share Posted October 16, 2018 Laser projection? Like they used to have in Captain EO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 10 hours ago, Alexcremers said: One of Tarantino's best! One of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,512 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 On 10/16/2018 at 6:12 AM, Alexcremers said: Really? I think digital projection is downright terrible with awful image quality (at least in the theatres in my city). It's the main reason why I never go see movies in theatres. Nothing beats a German 35mm/70mm film projector and a fresh release print. For Drax & Dynamic: Ciné Trinitron Funniest post, all week! Thanks, Alex. I'm with you (oh, no, we're agreeing on something!)😞 Digital sucks. Ironically, the only way that I can see something on "celluloid", is to watch DVDs and Blu Rays of older films. Even with remastering, the "organic" quality shines through. On 10/15/2018 at 4:47 PM, Iron_Giant said: The sinking scenes looked so much like they were shot on a studio lot.🙁 Erm...they were . On 10/15/2018 at 5:00 PM, Norma's Corpse said: I remember they made a "Special Widescreen Presentation" for Multiplicity when it first aired on cable TV in 1997. ...with a "Special Widescreen" waste bin, to go with it. A24 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,359 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Well, sure, those scenes were lot-shot (is that a term?)—but in the theatrical release, it never looked that way. The “filmness” of film masked that, at least until it got cleaned up for high-def. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now