Holko 9,400 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 It's a good 6-7 bucks cheaper this way than shipped from Intrada, and that's without somebody looking in it and deciding it's worth more than what's on the package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Oh, I forgot the sick shipping rates at Intrada. Then I agree Music Box is the one to go for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,275 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 I don't get it, isn't the Music Box price substantially more expensive? I tallied the numbers and buying directly from Varese was the cheapest option to ship this to Australia. I'm guessing import laws are different in the UK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 1 minute ago, crumbs said: I don't get it, isn't the Music Box price substantially more expensive? I tallied the numbers and buying directly from Varese was the cheapest option to ship this to Australia. I'm guessing import laws are different in the UK? Varese don't circumvent customs, as Intrada and Music Box do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,275 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Customs cause issues? Due to the cost of the package, as listed on the box? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Just now, crumbs said: Customs cause issues? Due to the cost of the package, as listed on the box? Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,400 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 I just calculated the Varese shipping with my VAT on top, which would 100% be added along with the rummaging fee, and it's just a bit more expensive than ordering from MusicBox with their higher base price, but lower overall one, priority mail shipping in-continent and guaranteed no bamboozles and holdups because we're both inside the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 45 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Varese don't circumvent customs, as Intrada and Music Box do. They do (or did) for my shipments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, publicist said: They do (or did) for my shipments. Interesting. Was this recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Last time was 'Small Soldiers'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 14 minutes ago, publicist said: They do (or did) for my shipments. Same for me as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Then I was misinformed. Until now, I've only ordered cheap sales items that are under the tax limit directly from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Let's wait for Dracula...😎 Though amazingly the $ is so low at the moment that the 36€ i paid still comes 14€ below our local merchant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,457 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 10 minutes ago, publicist said: Let's wait for Dracula...😎 Will he come faster if I wear a babydoll tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,275 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 I'm so sick of waiting for this, I'm just gonna bugger off overseas for a two week holiday. Hopefully it's on my desk once I get home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, crumbs said: I'm so sick of waiting for this, I'm just gonna bugger off overseas for a two week holiday. Hopefully it's on my desk once I get home! Do you have a butler who unwraps it and puts in on your desk for you? Taikomochi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,275 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Yes, they'll even express mail it to my 5-star resort overseas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,400 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Where you goin'? Do you need roads? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 You got some good roads to sell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,457 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 They will ship his Dracula CD by helicopter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,275 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 I have no idea what references you are all making now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,385 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 35 minutes ago, publicist said: Let's wait for Dracula...😎 Though amazingly the $ is so low at the moment that the 36€ i paid still comes 14€ below our local merchant. Lucky for you. To Norwegians, the $ is very high at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, crumbs said: I have no idea what references you are all making now. References? You're overthinking it! As with most posts on JWFan, it doesn't make sense at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,275 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Purple monkey dishwasher! Bayesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, Thor said: Lucky for you. To Norwegians, the $ is very high at the moment. Celluloidtunes should start importing specialty soundtracks directly from the labels and then sell them on celluloidtunes.no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,385 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Ha, ha...true. If we wanted to lose money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Thor said: Ha, ha...true. If we wanted to lose money. Just sit on them for five years and then sell them for astronomical prices when they're OOP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post publicist 4,643 Posted November 5, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2018 Interesting Williams-interview on 'Dracula' as quoted on FSM: Quote Issue # 36 of Little Shoppe of Horrors, Dick Klemensen's invaluable fanzine, is completely devoted to the Langella Dracula. In it on pp. 86-87 is a transcripted interview conducted by Laurent Bouzereau, though no date is given for the interview itself. Williams tells us exactly what he thought of it: challenging but interesting and enjoyable to do. Laurent Bouzereau: Talking to John Badham and Walter Mirisch, they told me that you had never seen a vampire movie until they showed you their version of Dracula. But, I'm wondering if you had, indeed, never seen a vampire movie? John Williams: I think I must have seen some vampire movies when I was a kid. I saw most of the fare that came along in those years, although I can't remember exactly. But it is a particular genre that I like, in the sense that the music is typically associated with that particular type of Gothic orchestration that is powerful and strong. And I always think the master of that, in my mind, is Bernard Herrmann, who used to write these Gothic, austere passages that were so spine-chilling. And it's always slightly with tongue in cheek a little bit, you know. There's a little humor to it also. So this was a very enjoyable thing to do. I also did a film called The Fury, which was in a similar vein. I enjoyed both of them very much. Bouzereau: Personally, I love your score to The Fury as well. The thing that was interesting about Dracula specifically, is that it was not trying to be a gross-out kind of movie. It was not as graphic as most of the Dracula films had been. It was a romantic version of the story. And I think your score definitely reflects that. I’m wondering if you were attracted to doing the score because it wasn’t your typical horror movie? Williams: Well, I always felt that Dracula was a very erotic story. Certainly, the way John Badham directed it I felt that was so. And the scenes that I remember are these beautiful flying scenes and dream scenes that are very romantic really. In a kind of chilling way. It's a wonderful subject for music really. For the sweep and arc of a kind of romance in areas that we're uncertain about and in odd worlds that we're attracted to but we may be a little bit afraid of at the same time. The magnetism of the un known mixed with the erotic aspects of the story made it, for me, a very romantic piece in many ways. Bouzereau: And there are also some scary moments in the movie. I remember there is a cue that makes me jump even each time I listen to the CD. Can you tell us a little bit about the importance of the placement of music in accentuating a moment in a horror film? Williams: I think in any of these films, a horror film may be, in the sense of timing of events, not dissimilar to comedy. In comedy, we have to deliver the joke exactly at the right time or deliver the musical accent just when we expect it or not. I think in a horror movie it's very similar, in the sense that the basic idea of the importance of timing is illustrated very, very sharply. We, as composers, are helped by the editing of the film, of course, and there will be a quick cut of some action or something that's been prepared where we're lulled in our responses and suddenly we're attacked. We have to deliver the attack both editorially and musically just at the right moment. If it comes a little too late, we're asleep. If it comes too soon, we're not quite enough. So, it is an art of sleight of hand really... Of magic. And, timing and all of these things is an essential ingredient. And, certainly, in all of music. I mean, people will say when we study Beethoven, it isn’t so much that the next idea that comes is so wonderful. What’s wonderful about it is the moment he presents it. If it will come a minute later or 30 seconds early, it wouldn't be so wonderful. But it's the kind of preparation that ultimately the moment that's selected for this introduction of something new. A new key, a new register, a new instrument and so on. That surprises us and carries us along. Dracula certainly is a good illustration of that, and the genre a very good illustration of the importance of timing in these things. Bouzereau: One of the things that I really like also is how music conveys, as you said, the flying, and I think that's particularly true of the last cue of the film when Dracula has died, and suddenly his cape flows away in the wind. And Kate Nelligan is smiling because he's free. She's smiling because he's going to come back. I think the music conveys this very well. Williams: To speak to the end of Dracula, it's difficult because I haven't seen it in so long. But I imagine that the music will play his theme, more or less, this sort of love theme. And, as you suggest there's ambiguity about this moment. Will I be reunited and what form and so on? And what I would speculate a little bit about is the idea -- the classic idea -- of love death. Of Liebestod in Wagner, for example. Where Romeo and Juliet were lovers are separated by, in that case, class. Or they're separated by rank. Or in this case, they're separated by the fact that Dracula's dead for 900 years and the woman is alive. It makes us reflect on the idea that eternal love is a thing that only can come after death. When, as in Romeo And Juliet, the lovers have to die together to be together. We have this idea in our culture that love is eternal. And in the end of Dracula, we have a sense that there is love there. And perhaps the best part of it is in the afterlife, in that other world where eventually, she will go to join Dracula if she wishes to do that. I think maybe that's the suggestion of the music. I don't know if that makes it too obtuse to get one's head around it. But I think somewhere in there lies the secret of what the music is conveying. That this love thing between lovers, even if one of them dies, it's still there because they will eventually reach this place and live it out together in its eternal form. And that's the form that the music addresses. Bouzereau: Part of the reason why you wanted to make this movie was your friendship with Walter Mirisch, of course, which had started, I think, before you ever got your first Oscar for Fiddler On The Roof. But I think you had done some work with him before. Is that correct, some television maybe? Williams: Yes, I've known Walter Mirisch for a good many years. Of course, Fiddler On The Roof I conducted at his suggestion, and along with Norman Jewison. But I had done films for Walter before. Yes, Fitzwilly, the Dick Van Dyke comedy, A Garden Of Cucumbers was the original title of it. Midway was produced by Walter Mirisch. I think I did two or three films, perhaps a bit more for the Mirisches before Fiddler On The Roof. He's a lovely man that, as everyone interested in films knows. And he's been a good friend for a good many years. And he's still going strong, I'm happy to say. Bouzereau: In closing about Dracula, I heard the music before I even saw the movie. Because the movie came out much later in France, and that's where I lived. But the album was available. And I knew the movie just by listening to your score. And the same thing with The Fury. I remember listening to those two scores and discovering a new side of John Williams. Williams: The two films that I remember, The Fury and Dracula and this particular genre of the dark, Gothic subject, I think, are fairly unique in my experience. I haven't done as many of that particular kind of film as perhaps I would like to do. But the thing about film music composition -- the essential thing -- is that we have to sort of adjust and change from subject to subject, of course. The ideal world would be if we could do a love story one time. Next would be a comedy, next would be some kind of drama and so on. But it usually doesn't work that way. In the 1970s, I was doing The Towering Inferno and The Poseidon Adventure and Earthquake and all these disaster films because you get sort of pigeonholed or stereotyped, so to speak. And that's the nature of the way the Hollywood industry works at least. It's true that one can pick assignments, I guess. But what's truer than that is that you form relationships like mine with Steven Spielberg, and Steven comes to me sometimes with very interesting subjects that I don't expect. When I'm the happiest is when they form the greatest departure from what the last assignment has been. So, I keep moving along and trying to adjust and adapt in the best way I can to each film subject that I'm presented with the opportunity of writing music for. Bouzereau: And, Dracula was one of them. Williams: Dracula was one of them. I enjoyed that and would welcome another in that genre. Both Dracula and The Fury I enjoyed a lot. You can buy it here: http://www.littleshoppeofhorrors.com/LSoH36.htm Holko, Nick Parker, Pieter Boelen and 5 others 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Too bad it's a print interview. I'd love to hear Williams say the word "erotic" What year was that interview conducted? Taikomochi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,278 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Too bad it's a print interview. I'd love to hear Williams say the word "erotic" Doesn't he say Erotic in one of the AOTC docs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Just now, Falafel said: Doesn't he say Erotic in one of the AOTC docs? You tell me! Speaking about "Across the Stars" I assume? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,278 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Just now, Disco Stu said: You tell me! Speaking about "Across the Stars" I assume? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 The first ever love theme of the saga! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, Falafel said: Somebody tell him to slow down and take it one syllable at a time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I think that’s the transcription of the interview Bouzereau did with JW for the documentary he produced for the DVD several years ago. Nice find! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 "Five films with this huge glossary of themes and we have no love theme." - John Williams, Liar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 So are we supposed to get a notice when this ships? Also, Dracula is probably Williams' sexiest score. 2 hours ago, Disco Stu said: Somebody tell him to slow down and take it one syllable at a time Maybe he doesn't like it slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Amer 2,071 Posted November 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2018 Dracula at Varese. (Courtesy Robert Townson on my request) https://www.facebook.com/476366332820991/posts/580869859037304/ Unlucky Bastard, crumbs, Jay and 8 others 6 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 I love the fact they went for such a fancy packaging for this. A sort of special occasion, especially considering we thought this score was lost to us. Now I just want to get my copy ASAP! Send it already Varese! Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Really liking what I’m hearing of the old album samples. But since shipping seems to be a hectic business right now, I’ll wait for the hooplah to die down. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,275 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 I just wanted to add that I've been in Bali for two days now and my copy still hasn't shipped. The odds of this being on my desk when I get home grow slim. :( aescalle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,457 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 I've been in Bali... pffff aescalle and bollemanneke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 2 hours ago, crumbs said: I just wanted to add that I've been in Bali for two days now and my copy still hasn't shipped. The odds of this being on my desk when I get home grow slim. Your butler will surely take care of it. 17 hours ago, Falafel said: Why is he orange? Same tanning as Trump uses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 396 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 WANT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 18 hours ago, publicist said: Interesting Williams-interview on 'Dracula' as quoted on FSM: Here's the edited conversation with JW as it appears on the DVD documentary that was made by Bouzereau in the early 2000s, I think: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,790 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Is this being shipped already or not yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 It was supposed to start shipping yesterday. But the last time I ordered from Varese, I never got any shipping notice from them, so I am not holding my breath for one now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Once they've finished burning the CD-Rs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 11 hours ago, Amer said: Dracula at Varese. (Courtesy Robert Townson on my request) https://www.facebook.com/476366332820991/posts/580869859037304/ Hell yea, that looks awesome That reminds me, I gotta order this thing! Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 I do indeed lack a real vampire score in my music library...I've got Broughton's Monster Squad, but that's a lower-tier work of his...there's Fiedel's Fright Night, but that's more about the jammin' tunes than most of the score (which isn't derogatory against Brad Fiedel's contributions, as he serves the film quite splendidly and the love theme is great). I suppose mister Williams will suffice, alongside Elfman's Wolfman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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