Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 The Snow Business sample Florian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted November 27, 2018 Author Share Posted November 27, 2018 Samples and Direct Order: https://lalalandrecords.com/world-is-not-enough-the-limited-edition-2-cd-set/ Additional Order Links: https://www1.screenarchives.com/title_detail.cfm/ID/36547/ https://www.moviemusic.com/soundtrack/M11608/world-is-not-enough/ http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.11749/.f https://www.musicbox-records.com/en/cd-soundtracks/6719-the-world-is-not-enough-expanded.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Thanks for Your Order, Stefan! Your order number is: 168665 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted November 28, 2018 Author Share Posted November 28, 2018 Quote http://www.warmbutter.com/cds/worldisnotenough.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Cannot wait to finally hear Bond Has Left the Building without sfx! Florian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 481 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Never seen the film or heard the score before until just now hearing the OST, and based on that I may likely get this! I actually liked "Garbage" way back when, and had no idea they had done the title song (with Arnold)! It's like the perfect marriage imo, haha. And that he implemented it into the score, based on just the OST, is really cool cohesion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 It's definitely one of the better Bond songs. I'm glad Arnold got to actually be involved with the theme song twice (this and Casino). Florian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 481 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Yeah I do remember enjoying Casino Royale's score quite a bit with that included cohesion. Btw I love how this release is connected to Potter by both featuring Robbie Coltraine! HAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Valentin Dimtrovich Zukovsky!!! I always liked that Wade got to come back for TND and Valentin for TWINE. Recurring characters in Bond are fun. Florian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 398 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Denise Richards, woof! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted November 28, 2018 Author Share Posted November 28, 2018 Wait, is woof a compliment or the opposite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 You've been married for too long, dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted November 28, 2018 Author Share Posted November 28, 2018 3 years is too long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 14 minutes ago, Jay said: Wait, is woof a compliment or the opposite? In the case of her "performance" in TWINE i would say the opposite of the compliment! Sophie Marceau was first rate though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Better in Braveheart, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,332 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Disco Stu said: It's definitely one of the better Bond songs. I'm glad Arnold got to actually be involved with the theme song twice (this and Casino). Didn't he do a rejected song for TND? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Faleel J.M. said: Didn't he do a rejected song for TND? Yes and it's the best song of all of them! "Surrender" sung by kd lang. The score is positively soaked with motifs from the song too. Faleel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,332 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Ba da da da daaaaa da. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, Faleel J.M. said: Ba da da da daaaaa da. Iconic! And don't forget: bwah wah wah wah waaaaaaah wah wah wah and bah DAH dah dah dah daaaaaah dah DAH dah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted November 28, 2018 Author Share Posted November 28, 2018 You guys are making me want to listen to TND again! (Oh how I hope LLL gets to complete it next year!) MrJosh and Florian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 to MOR row never diiiiiiiiiies surRENdeeeer Florian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,332 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Tease and tantalize! Florian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 My personal favorite use of "Surrender" gkgyver and Pieter Boelen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Hopefully the rate of these releases isn’t one per year. A. A. Ron and Florian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted November 29, 2018 Author Share Posted November 29, 2018 If they only have access to Arnold scores recorded before the 2005 fee increase, there's only one left. Oh wait, these are recorded in London right? Never mind about the fees. Florian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,669 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 I had the TND boot at one point, and I even seem to have the OST archived in flac (meaning I have it on CD... god knows when I bought that) but I always found the score a bit too bombastic. I like White Knight and The Countdown but the score doesn't do a lot for me apart from that. I'm much more looking forward to TWINE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 I had the expanded TND CD that was released some 15 years ago. Sadly, I lost it. Still don't know how. Arnold's scores are fantastic, you'd have to be crazy to put Newman on the same level. Florian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Thomas Snoozeman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 10 minutes ago, gkgyver said: I had the expanded TND CD that was released some 15 years ago. Sadly, I lost it. Still don't know how. Hopefully in a years time you'll be able to replace it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,300 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 I'd buy Casino Royale in a heartbeat. Excellent score from Arnold. Here's hoping he returns for the next film. Newman started sounding very generic-action-movie by the end of Spectre, barely resembled a Bond score. Florian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,281 Posted November 29, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2018 Neil did a brief Q&A about the release over in the FSM thread Quote What was the genesis of this project, and how did it fit into the timeline with the DAD project? Were there discussions about which one to release first - was it always the plan for DAD to come first? We're doing these one at a time. When DAD was finished, I was hoping for another Bond project but nothing is certain. Then we got word we could work on this one. I'm back to being hopeful. How involved was David Arnold in this process from start to finish? I updated David at every opportunity. He's heard, commented and changed multiple masters and reviewed all of the artwork. This is the first time I've seen the title song in the correct place on a Bond album! How did this come about... I put it there and nobody said "No". Why is 'Welcome to Baku' (film version) on Disc 2 rather than on Disc 1 with the complete film score? My methodology on these releases is to be faithful to the original albums, which were produced by David Arnold. That's why on DAD in most cases, the original album versions are in the film sequence while the film versions are later. The "Welcome To Baku" in film sequence represents the full mix of the cue, which is what was intended. We had separate elements for this cue, so I could present a version without the vocal as a bonus. If any music was deleted for the album version then I like to put the expanded version in sequence. The sample of Orbis Non Sufficit on LLL's site sounds slightly different to the actual track used over the end credits. How did that come about? Our tapes had one take marked "End Credits". This is it. Like DAD (the cue titled "James Bond Returns") it was the very last thing on the tapes. These are the intended end titles. Most of what's here is in the film. It sounds like the opening in the film was replaced with something from "Tomorrow Never Dies". We couldn't do that. Were there any difficulties you had with missing music, different takes, or the state of the archival material? The computer broke just before we started transferring the DATs. Thankfully I had a back up. Was this easier, harder, or about the same to work on compared with DAD? About the same. I knew what to expect going in since I'd worked on DAD, so I was prepared. No two projects are the same, but these were close. And finally... did David Arnold have any interesting tales from his time composing this score? Read the liner notes! Thanks. You're welcome. Neil Disco Stu, stewdog1 and Jurassic Shark 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Demondm810 398 Posted November 29, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2018 "I put it there and nobody said no" 😄 Florian, stewdog1 and Disco Stu 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanobard 71 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 I was wondering why the Orbis Non Sufficit sample sounded different, odd that they used music from Tomorrow Never Dies for the beginning of the film version (though I don't recall hearing that particular Bond Theme rendition in TND, could be wrong). It's a bit of a shame that we won't get the film version of the track for this release, but oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 If a "film version" of a track includes tracked music, I never care about it being included on a soundtrack release. bollemanneke and A. A. Ron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanobard 71 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Just now, Disco Stu said: If a "film version" of a track includes tracked music, I never care about it being included on a soundtrack release. That's fair enough, now I just have to find where it's tracked from... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted November 29, 2018 Author Share Posted November 29, 2018 Could be from a TND cue that wasn't on the OST, Expanded, or used in the film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanobard 71 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 If that's the case, then the wait for a La-La Land complete Tomorrow Never Dies just got even more arduous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 The opening from the TWINE end credits comes from TND. Company Car, iirc. Florian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanobard 71 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Listening to Company Car now, I can definitely hear the similarity (the opening notes are spot on, for instance) but the TWINE end credits definitely sound a little different as the Bond theme plays out (tempo is a tad higher, more percussion in the background, small things like that). I'm probably just nitpicking at this point though. Florian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewdog1 50 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 On 11/23/2018 at 2:07 AM, Jay said: 2. Show Me The Money† 1:27 3. Come In 007, Your Time Is Up† 5:20 Does anyone know if these were actually two separate tracks? In the past I just merged the two into one track. Acts as a better listening experience, especially if it comes up in a random playlist. Also, just a side note, I find it odd that Spotify has Nicholas Dodd as the composer for this and not David Arnold. Need to complain to management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted November 29, 2018 Author Share Posted November 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, stewdog1 said: Does anyone know if these were actually two separate tracks? In the past I just merged the two into one track. Acts as a better listening experience, especially if it comes up in a random playlist. Also, just a side note, I find it odd that Spotify has Nicholas Dodd as the composer for this and not David Arnold. Need to complain to management. Quote "Submarine #1" has a clean ending and "Submarine #2" opens with previously unreleased music, which didn't sound good when combined so I kept them separate. For those that prefer the album version, it's included as disc 2, track 16. Placing a separate index is what was done for "Show Me The Money" and "Come In 007, Your Time Is Up". But here's the dirty little secret about those cues. It's really two separate cues that were combined with......a crossfade! And then we just indexed them to match the original album. I hope everyone enjoys the album! Neil stewdog1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewdog1 50 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Thanks for the info Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 My god, the horns in Snow Business. Why don't they make Bond music like this anymore and insist on electronic filler backing up Zimmer light? Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Because everything sucks now. MikeH and bollemanneke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Horner's Dynamic Range said: Because everything sucks now. Most everything does, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted December 8, 2018 Author Share Posted December 8, 2018 First review from the FSM thread Quote Listening to the new edition now. I'm only up to "Submarine #2", but this expansion greatly improves upon the original release. The whole presentation just flows better musically. There's only one jarring exception: In the movie, "Balloon" transitioned seamlessly into "The World Is Not Enough" but not on the disc. Everything sounds fantastic. The orchestra sounds fuller, and the sound is so clear that, during faster-paced action passages, instruments don't get muddled but rather still stand out on their own. Very eager to hear the additional material. Oh wow...Gun Barrel (Separate Elements) is EXACTLY what it sounds like! 1:14 in length: The first 40 seconds are the orchestra only. Then, after a slight pause, it plays the synthesizer only portion. Very repetitive in the last 10 seconds, but it is definitely a cool addition to the set! The alternates for "Snow Business" and "Elektra's Theme" must just be small variations in performances or in the sound mixing because I can't really pinpoint the differences--at least not while casually listening to them. So they aren't major deviations or completely different musical ideas. "Pipeline" (full mix)--same thing. No huge differences jumped out at me. Now, the Arnold demos... "The World Is Not Enough": When the first few notes started, I immediately imagined a nightclub on the Love Boat! It has that kind of 1980s cruise ship, half-jazz and half-disco type of sound to it. It's hard to really like this version because I'm so used to Shirley Manson's singing, but this isn't a bad track by any means. "Only Myself to Blame": This time, I prefer Arnold's demo over the original. Walker's vocals were, IMO, too low and muddled, but Arnold's demo emphasizes the vocals without getting lost in the music. As for the music, you can hear "Casino" and "Elektra's Theme" more clearly in the demo. It also sounds like Arnold was more comfortable singing this track than the title track. There's more emotion and warmth in his voice here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Only Myself To Blame is so nice. I miss the times when they put so much effort into the score that we occasionally got more than one song in a movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted December 8, 2018 Author Share Posted December 8, 2018 Just found some pictures on Twitter of the set in the wild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 I'm so happy to finally have the film version of "Welcome to Baku" (minus the cliché "exotic" vocals) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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