Jay 37,352 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Quote Side A 01. Main title (2:49) 02. Family / First Batman / Roof Fight (3:24) 03. Jack Vs. Eckhardt (1:36) 04. Up Building / Card Snap (1:54) 05. Bat Zone / Axis Set-Up (1:52) 06. Shootout (5:39) 07. Dinner Transition / Kitchen Dinner** / Surgery (2:58) Side B 08. Stair Kiss** / Face-Off / Beddy Bye (4:00)09. Board Meeting (0:20) 10. Roasted Dude (1:04) 11. Vicki Spies (Flowers) (1:55) 12. Clown Attack (1:58) 13. Bruce Contemplates / Photos* / Men At Work (2:59) 14. Paper Spin / Alicia’s Mask (0:31) 15. Vicki Gets A Gift (1:12) 16. Alicia’s Unmasking (1:10) 17. Batman To the Rescue / Batmobile Charge / Street Fight (4:25)18. Vicki Hides The Film (0:35) Side C 19. Descent Into Mystery (1:34) 20. Batcave / Paper Throw (2:49) 21. The Truth (1:14) 22. The Joker’s Poem (0:59) 23. Sad Pictures (0:39) 24. Dream / Challenge / Tender Batcave** (4:28) 25. Charge of the Batmobile (1:47) 26. Joker Flies to Gotham / Batwing I (0:34) 27. Batwing II (4:00) Side D 28. Batwing III (2:07) 29. Cathedral Chase (5:06) 30. Waltz to the Death (3:59) 31. Showdown I / Showdown II (5:06) 32. Finale* **(1:49) 33. End Credits (1:29) https://mondotees.com/products/batman-extended-motion-picture-score-2xlp?variant=13575996244061 I bolded the new tracks! Additionally, "The Truth" previously released under the wrong title ("Joker's Muzak") is now integrated into the main program. Also "Batwing II" and "Batwing III" no longer crossfade. Also they took what used to be 12 Photos*/Beautiful Dreamer*† 2:30 and 1 3Men at Work* 0:33, and now we have 13. Bruce Contemplates / Photos* / Men At Work (2:59) And 8 Face–Off*•/Beddy Bye* 3:59 is now 08. Stair Kiss** / Face-Off / Beddy Bye (4:00) How about that? crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 55 seconds of asterisk music? Stop the press! Every time you think they've released the definitive version of this score, they come out with another one. That's the gag. Chances are, you've bought 'em already! jwalk713 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Sold out in 20 minutes? That's impressive. But such a great score, and I'm not that surprised, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 29, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2018 Please. It’s a bunch of nerd bottle cap collectors who don’t even own record players. They don’t care about the music, not really. Incanus, Bespin and Demondm810 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Is this expanded set is exclusive to an LP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 2 hours ago, Bespin said: Is this expanded set is exclusive to an LP? Of course it is! Because everybody buys LPs these days! That is where the future of expanded scores it at! But it is impressive that they sold out already, especially since there were 2000 copies of this pressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Just now, Incanus said: Of course it is! Because everybody buys LPs these days! That is where the future of expanded scores it at! I hope they’ll never do that for JW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 52 minutes ago, Incanus said: Of course it is! Because everybody buys LPs these days! That is where the future of expanded scores it at! But it is impressive that they sold out already, especially since were 2000 copies of this pressed. Interesting. Maybe that's the future for independent labels? Seems to be a really in-thing right now, these limited-edition vinyl releases. One day I could see them releasing CD and vinyl expansions on the same day (with the vinyl quantities far less, obviously). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 I got a turntable just a few months ago, along with some 100 LPs (both donated from my father), so I would definitely be into this if I didn't already have the CD. Vinyl reissues are now moving from hipster territory into mainstream music collecting. Cassettes(!), however, are the new hipster -- so dig out those old walkmans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 I don't REALLY care about 50 seconds or whatever, but it is mildly irritating that I've spent a lot of money on expanded versions of this score over the years (the original LLL, the LLL 2-pack with improved sound, and the Elfman/Burton box) and there still were a few things hanging around there! (and more irritating that exclusive stuff pops up on vinyl only) Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 50 minutes ago, mstrox said: I don't REALLY care about 50 seconds or whatever, but it is mildly irritating that I've spent a lot of money on expanded versions of this score over the years (the original LLL, the LLL 2-pack with improved sound, and the Elfman/Burton box) and there still were a few things hanging around there! (and more irritating that exclusive stuff pops up on vinyl only) Yeah, are these newly discovered or did Neil/Elfman/LLL make a creative decision to leave them off the most recent CD release? The first disc is 75 minutes so they would have fit. So if it was a creative decision, why add them to this vinyl release? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 I THINK they were confined (by WB? by the impulse to not alienate prior buyers?) to the same program as the first LLL on the Elfman 2-pack rerelease, and the only improvements were sonic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted November 29, 2018 Author Share Posted November 29, 2018 For the 2010 LLL edition, they didn't have these cues. IIRC, all they had was the album master, and the final edited audio as heard in the final cut of the film. For the 2011 Elfman/Burton box set, they didn't have these cues. That's basically just the album with a few things taken from, I'd guess the same source as the 2010 LLL, plus old demos/worktapes Danny had. Sometime in 2013/2014ish, Neil finally found proper elements at Warner Brothers after years of searching. This led to the 2014 Danny Elfman Batman Collection, where they could finally present Danny's score in good audio. However, they were locked to only repeating the 2010 program, with no changes made at all. Now in 2018, we have Mondo releasing a vinyl edition, and they were able to have a different program, so Neil made some changes. Hopefully here are plans to revisit Batman for another CD release containing these cues, and whatever else may have turned up on that better element that hasn't found a home yet, too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Surely it wouldn't be until the Elfman/Batman set goes OOP. I don't think I'd purchase the score again for 0:55, or even 0:55 and a bunch of new alternates. My preferred format for the first Batman is still the OST presentation. But would have liked it to be on the expansion(s) I have! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Ah, I didn't realize that the most recent LLL was contractually obligated to repeat the program of the 2010 edition. That's a bummer. Of course it's only 50 seconds of pretty unimportant music, so I won't be buying another CD release of Batman if they do one. The Danny Elfman Batman release from 2014 is one of my favorite LLL releases, a thing of beauty. All I need. 1 minute ago, mstrox said: Surely it wouldn't be until the Elfman/Batman set goes OOP I also didn't realize this was still in print! Makes sense given how quickly it came after individual LLL releases of both scores. A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted November 29, 2018 Author Share Posted November 29, 2018 Only 2 cues were added to this vinyl edition. I have no idea how many other potential goodies are also on that new element that still haven't been released. Additional unused cues, early alternate versions of other cues, who knows! An entirely new 2CD set should be rebuilt from the ground up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Jay said: Only 2 cues were added to this vinyl edition. I have no idea how many other potential goodies are also on that new element that still haven't been released. Additional unused cues, early alternate versions of other cues, who knows! An entirely new 2CD set should be rebuilt from the ground up. Agreed. I'd buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,525 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 As I don't own it in any form and don't particulaly care to own Returns so far, I'd also buy it! Demondm810 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Returns is the better score! SteveMc and mstrox 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,525 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 It's just Elfman being Elfman, the first one is full of iconic cues! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 "Selina Transforms" is the VERY DEFINITION of an iconic cue. crocodile and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 It's scary for my wallet that all the expensive Williams editions could be improved and rereleased.... For mono score like family plot or the Poseidon adventure is ok...but for other pristine sounding editions...damn not enough money... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,525 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Well... yes, I didn't say the second one doesn't have any! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 These kids today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Jay said: Hopefully here are plans to revisit Batman for another CD release containing these cues, and whatever else may have turned up on that better element that hasn't found a home yet, too Not to to be ugly, but they can wait awhile before I have to buy my 4th version of Batman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Don't forget the Prince OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 49 minutes ago, Horner's Dynamic Range said: Don't forget the Prince OST. I actively try to. Ollie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 What? Prince is awesome. Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 That's actually one of my favorite Prince albums! Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 There are other ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,006 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 2 hours ago, Disco Stu said: Returns is the better score! Because the two are so different from each other I don't have an impulse to choose. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 I of course love them both, I just feel a bit protective of Batman Returns. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,006 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 11 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I of course love them both, I just feel a bit protective of Batman Returns. It's one of the scores that is responsible for me even being a fan of film music in the first place... This, The Lion King, Jurassic Park, Bram Stoker's Dracula and Hook are some of my earliest film music memories from the time before I learned soundtrack collecting was even a thing. Karol blondheim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 16 minutes ago, crocodile said: It's one of the scores that is responsible for me even being a fan of film music in the first place... This, The Lion King, Jurassic Park, Bram Stoker's Dracula and Hook are some of my earliest film music memories from the time before I learned soundtrack collecting was even a thing. Karol You’re so young! But yes, RETURNS is a fantastic score. I, too, might prefer it over the first. jwalk713 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,066 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Are you referring to the OST or the expanded score release? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,066 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 You must be referring to the extended release, since the OST of Returns is so disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 It's a good album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,066 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 It works well as a coaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 You can always assume by default that I'm talking about the OST whenever I say "the CD", "the album" etc., unless otherwise specified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,066 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 I usually do, but I found it hard in this case. And you did write score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 True. Sometimes, we talk about the score 'in context with the movie' too. Of course, in the case of BATMAN RETURNS, both are brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mstrox 6,651 Posted November 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2018 You can always assume by default that when I say "the CD," "the album," etc., I'm talking about "At Fillmore East" by the Allman Brothers Band. Thor, Smeltington and Disco Stu 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Did anyone here buy this by chance? I'd love to check out the music that wasn't included in the LLL releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted November 30, 2018 Author Share Posted November 30, 2018 I doubt any JWFanner has it since it sold out in 20 minutes days before anyone here knew about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,066 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 41 minutes ago, mstrox said: You can always assume by default that when I say "the CD," "the album," etc., I'm talking about "At Fillmore East" by the Allman Brothers Band. That's what I've always assumed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croweyes1121 14 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 On 11/29/2018 at 4:52 AM, Incanus said: Of course it is! Because everybody buys LPs these days! That is where the future of expanded scores it at! But it is impressive that they sold out already, especially since there were 2000 copies of this pressed. Sadly, it isn't impressive at all. Mondo is *infested* with reseller/scalper bots, and as a company, they refuse to do anything about it. All of their releases sell out almost instantly, and already have placeholder entries set up for them on eBay. I'm a movie poster collector. They had a Jaws poster signed by the artist up a while back, and I was sitting there poised at the ready the moment the items went live. They sold out in the few seconds it took me to enter my shipping info. It's a total racket. The people who genuinely want these releases are getting shafted with Mondo every time, and they really couldn't care less. DigitalfreakNYC and Jurassic Shark 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I understand your frustration, but how is any of that the company's fault? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I don’t know anything about Mondo, but I do know that any store can take measures to prevent bots. Which means either Mondo doesn’t care or, worse, that the quick bit sellouts increase the company’s cool factor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,066 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 It's more about company policy - do they just want to sell things as fast as possible, or do they want to sell directly to collectors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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