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The Jerry Goldsmith (1929-2024)-Thread

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I am really interested in your theory on the following topic that, in my honest opinion, deserves its own thread:

 

Let's just assume that Jerry Goldsmith was granted to live 20 years longer.

What kind of movies would he have scored?

What would have been his regular collaborators?

How could his style have developed?

Would his style have developed at all?

What would he have said about the filmmusic of our age?

Would he have adopted to the current requests of directors and producers or would he have only collaborated with those people that still respect the traditional production of a film score?

How popular would he be by now? Would he have become a living legend like John Williams or be some random composer that scores shitty movies for over 30 years?

How many expansions would exist/not exists, if he was still able to meddle and mess with the special labels?

 

I'm especially interested in what @Yavar Moradi and @publicist think.

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What kind of movies would he have scored? Probably only a handful, mainly for producers and directors he previously was associated with, with regular calls for less than-respectable sci-fi/fantasy/adventure or thriller stuff

What would have been his regular collaborators? More producer types, young-ish directors seem not to have much use for traditional movie music, exceptions 

How could his style have developed? Much like JNH's, away from heavy ornamental stuff but with a more refined, minimalist, elegant soundscape (The SUm of All Fears already points in such direction)

Would his style have developed at all? Certainly not compared to the huge leaps of the 60's/70's/80's

What would he have said about the filmmusic of our age? It's shite, mainly (viewed from within his sheltered Hollywood community)

Would he have adopted to the current requests of directors and producers or would he have only collaborated with those people that still respect the traditional production of a film score? Yes, but there wouldn't have been much overlap with the kind of projects the younger crowd does, he would have scored a few movies with more old-style sensibilities

How popular would he be by now? Would he have become a living legend like John Williams or be some random composer that scores shitty movies for over 30 years? He is a living legend even 15 years after his death. There probably would be more concerts and public appearances, but of course, without a thousand blockbusters and Oscars in tow, he still would have occupied a space below Williams or Zimmer, more like later Horner when the Titanic rose wore off.

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In an alternative universe John Williams got on tha American Airlines flight to LA on September 11, 2001. After that point Jerry becomes Steven Spielberg's go to guy. JG beats his illness and lives for several decades. His charisma is such that he directs the film community to reject the ZIMperialist movement and while he is no JW the overall film musical experience among the next several decades is much stronger. Film music is better due to a smaller HZ and MG footprint. In fact James Horner never crashes his plane though tragically we lose Bear McCreary in an auto accident. 

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He’s eighty years old. He’s surrounded by synthesizers. He wants to write a hip-hop score. He keeps a computer for him, a DAW and the latest plug-ins. He’s in his nineties. He likes to push the envelope, like his early years. He runs the studios and the executives crazy. He’s 93. Studying his newfound scoring technique is like being at a university. His music makes love to the ears of young filmmakers. They ask him to score their films. He calls home and tells Carol about his Indian summer, who cries. He still writes scores as prolifically as ever. Oh God, he’s writing so fast. He sees his name in concert halls everywhere. He wants to conduct those concerts, and finally get the public recognition he's always deserved. But he’s 74 years old, he's got a terminal illness, and he can’t do it. And the youngbloods are so fast.

 

 

 There was so much love in this man's music.

 

 

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51 minutes ago, Nick Parker said:

 

Said JJ Abrams to John Williams upon announcement of new Star Wars films.

And he surpassed everything he did in the prequels (and everything else he did in the 21st century) with one little three minute and twelve second track.

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5 hours ago, JoeinAR said:

And he surpassed everything he did in the prequels (and everything else he did in the 21st century) with one little three minute and twelve second track.

Minor correction. March of the Resistance is actually 2:34 

(And while nice, does not hold a candle to TPM score, or even Across the Stars, let's be reasonable)

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3 minutes ago, Fabulin said:

Minor correction. March of the Resistance is actually 2:34 

(And while nice, does not hold a candle to TPM score, or even Across the Stars, let's be reasonable)

Puke. Across the stars. Star wars 1st love theme. As Kevin McAllister says I don't think so! 

 

And I was talking about everything he has done in the 21st century, Potter Tintin, etc. Rey's theme is that great

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