Naïve Old Fart 9,503 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 My one quibble about this set is that they have plonked the words "Superman The Movie" all over the cover, thus ruining Bob Peak's beautiful art work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, Richard said: My one quibble about this set is that they have plonked the words "Superman The Movie" all over the cover, thus ruining Bob Peak's beautiful art work. Didn't Bob also draw the letters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Faleel 5,340 Posted February 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, Richard said: My one quibble about this set is that they have plonked the words "Superman The Movie" all over the cover, thus ruining Bob Peak's beautiful art work. anironwaffle, crumbs, _deleted_ and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Mine shipped yesterday! Counting the days to delivery! Amer and Alan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,503 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Didn't Bob also draw the letters? I'm not sure. Thanks @Faleel J.M.. These posters are beautiful. I wonder if they join-up, like his work for EXCALIBUR? The second one always reminds me of Dali's The Christ Of St. John Of The Cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JohnnyD 1,220 Posted February 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 24, 2019 What is significant about this release: 1.) It includes the Maestro’s entire score, expanded and remastered from the recently discovered original 2 inch 24-track recording master tapes (offering the best sound ever from the original source). 2.) It includes alternate cues, including an alternate segment of The Fortress of Solitude that has never been heard before. 3.) It includes the US premiere release on CD of the 1978 album, remastered from the original recording tapes. Did I get everything or should I continue? Fozmo, Amer and Naïve Old Fart 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,503 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 No, that's about it, thank you very much. I'll now add it to my 2-LP vinyl, my cassette, my CD, my Japanese CD, my Rhino 2-CD, and the Blue Box. Some scores really are worth heptouple-dipping for . SUPERMAN is one of them. Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 I'd buy more Supergirlz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 654 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 22 minutes ago, Richard said: No, that's about it, thank you very much. I'll now add it to my 2-LP vinyl, my cassette, my CD, my Japanese CD, my Rhino 2-CD, and the Blue Box. Some scores really are worth heptouple-dipping for . SUPERMAN is one of them. I totally forgot I've got the LP! I haven't owned anything that'll play vinyl in 30 years, but I do have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ricsim88 244 Posted February 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 24, 2019 Honestly, i've never been "super" happy with the sound quality of the previous releases, so to me that $35 is more than worth it. Judging by the few excerpts I've heard, I'm totally confident that it will be money well spent. But to each his own. Jurassic Shark, Ricard and bollemanneke 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Taken straight from the tapes that recorded the LSO! Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricsim88 244 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Taken straight from the tapes that recorded the LSO! Exactly. Can't ask for anything better than this. Now if employee 3 could hurry up and ship, that would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 We could hope for a high res release if this, one day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricsim88 244 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 That would be nice indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 On SACD or blu-ray audio! Gurkensalat and Amer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Or cassette. Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan 689 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Reel to reel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,174 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 2 hours ago, anonymous said: I wouldn't say 35$ for one track or so is significant... For at least 30 tracks (full score plus the new alternate), and possibly the other alternates - if like me you don't care for the re-created OST edit. The new Fortress of Solitude alternate is a potentially welcome goodie, but by no means the main reason for getting the set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Naïve Old Fart 9,503 Posted February 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Stefancos said: We could hope for a high res release if this, one day! 40 minutes ago, dougie said: On SACD or blu-ray audio! 37 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Or cassette. 16 minutes ago, Alan said: Reel to reel! 8-track, anyone? Amer, Jurassic Shark and bollemanneke 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricsim88 244 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 LP 78 is my format of choice these days. At 5 minutes per side that would make for a mean box set. Jurassic Shark and Naïve Old Fart 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Tefifon cartridges! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Naïve Old Fart 9,503 Posted February 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 hour ago, ricsim88 said: Honestly, i've never been "super" happy with the sound quality of the previous releases, so to me that $35 is more than worth it. Judging by the few excerpts I've heard, I'm totally confident that it will be money well spent. But to each his own. Remixed from the original 24-track multi-tapes?! I satisfy myself with the fact that SUPERMAN now sounds the best that it's sounded, in 40 years, and will, probably ever sound. For someone who bought the OST in 1978, and has loved it ever since, I consider that to be $35 very well spent. ricsim88, Ricard and Amer 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Amer 2,080 Posted February 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Marian Schedenig said: The new Fortress of Solitude alternate is a potentially welcome goodie, but by no means the main reason for getting the set. The sole main reason for getting the set is the solid remaster from the actual masters. Anything else is just the final icing on the cake and bonus. Unlucky Bastard, Ricard and ricsim88 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Marian Schedenig said: The new Fortress of Solitude alternate is a potentially welcome goodie, but by no means the main reason for getting the set. Taken straight from the tapes that recorded the LSO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,174 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, Amer said: The sole main reason for getting the set is the solid remaster from the actual masters. Anything else is just the final icing on the cake and bonus. Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,503 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 3 hours ago, Stefancos said: Taken straight from the tapes that recorded the LSO! 28 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Taken straight from the tapes that recorded the LSO! Repeating ourselves, are we, Steef? 32 minutes ago, Amer said: The...main reason for getting the set is the solid remaster from the actual masters. Sorry to contradict, @Amer, but they are not the masters. They are the the original 1st gen. 24-track multi-tapes - the raw ingredients, as it were - which were then mixed down, to form a 2-track master. If you want to hear how the score sounded in the film (because despite what you may have heard, the score was mixed in 6-track magnetic), listen to the iso, on the Blu Ray. Phenomenal. Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 The iso score was 4 generations away from the original tapes apparently, Richard. Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,503 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Was it? Why would 5th gen. copies, be used? Oh, well, it still sounds great. Imagine how a 1st gen. 5.1 mix would sound? I get hard just thinking about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Ehhh orchestral music in 5.1 tends to be disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,503 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 In what way, Jerry? Granted, very few scores are mixed in discrete 5.1 (more a sort of 3.1, or even, a very wide 2.0), but when it works, and the instruments are placed for maximum effect, it can be thrilling. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 10 minutes ago, Richard said: Was it? Why would 5th gen. copies, be used? Oh, well, it still sounds great. Imagine how a 1st gen. 5.1 mix would sound? I get hard just thinking about it. Because that was all they had at the time. The Rhino release was one source further from the iso score even Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Richard said: In what way, Jerry? Granted, very few scores are mixed in discrete 5.1 (more a sort of 3.1, or even, a very wide 2.0), but when it works, and the instruments are placed for maximum effect, it can be thrilling. E.T., all the Telarc/Kunzel ones I own, Star Trek Nemesis and a few others. I just think the 2 channel tracks delivered more punch, whereas the 5.1 mixes seemed rather front-heavy anyway, but the surround "atmospherics" were more of a distraction than an immersion. In a weird sort of way, it felt "thinner" than the 2 channel versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Did you remember to connect all the speakers? Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 There's a good reason hi-fi enthusiasts prefer music in 2-channel. Unfortunately orchestral music in particular just doesn't lend itself well to multichannel formats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Mono's the thing. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 If there was a hi-res download version of this released in the future, would you guys seriously buy it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 No. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricsim88 244 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 34 minutes ago, rough cut said: If there was a hi-res download version of this released in the future, would you guys seriously buy it? Possibly. But most likely not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenkraly2004 27 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 So super excited for this release. Order my copy on Thursday later this week !!! mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,080 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 10 hours ago, Richard said: Repeating ourselves, are we, Steef? Sorry to contradict, @Amer, but they are not the masters. They are the the original 1st gen. 24-track multi-tapes - the raw ingredients, as it were - which were then mixed down, to form a 2-track master. If you want to hear how the score sounded in the film (because despite what you may have heard, the score was mixed in 6-track magnetic), listen to the iso, on the Blu Ray. Phenomenal. No worries there @Ricard But I meant in a 'general' sense. These have to be condensed down eventually to either 2 track or a 3 track.mix downs. The great thing is this allows Mike to focus on bringing out certain instrumentation upfront.I noticed How he particularly modulated the choir in some of the CE3K cues (on that remaster) which sounded the cues to be more sinister ( False Alarm) And this time I noticed (from the online samples and podcast plays ) that some of the low register instrumentation surfacing up in a more prominent manner which makes the sound field more wholesome... Naïve Old Fart and anironwaffle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 25, 2019 Superman at the Oscars That piece always has me on the edge of tears Dr. Rick, Amer and SteveMc 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,294 Posted February 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 25, 2019 5 pages of junk moved to a new thread in General Discussion. Go there if you want to see it or comment on it, or it's deletion from here. Only posts about the LLL release of Superman allowed here now, thanks! bollemanneke, crumbs, Ollie and 6 others 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,220 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Thank you very much, Jay! I would've deleted all that pointless and useless drivel, though. Anyway, I am still awaiting shipment. It should be sometime tomorrow, if not sometime during the week at least.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurkensalat 338 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 17 hours ago, dougie said: There's a good reason hi-fi enthusiasts prefer music in 2-channel. Unfortunately orchestral music in particular just doesn't lend itself well to multichannel formats. In this absolute form the statement is not true. Not all hifi enthusiasts prefer 2 channel. There are lots of orchestral recordings that sound in 5.1 much better than stereo (IMO). This is the case for conservative surround (only ambiance) as well as more adventurous mixes. Just listen to SACDs from Bis, Telarc, Pentatone and other classical labels that care about recording quality. If you really think that they sound worse than the stereo versions, there is something wrong with your setup, I think. Of course you need good speakers with similar sound signature to achieve a cohesive sound field, and correct placement. In film music I can recommend the Bernard Herrmann SACD from Dutton/Vocalion (Citizen Kane and others). A spectacular release. anironwaffle and Amer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Gurkensalat said: In this absolute form the statement is not true. Not all hifi enthusiasts prefer 2 channel. There are lots of orchestral recordings that sound in 5.1 much better than stereo (IMO). This is the case for conservative surround (only ambiance) as well as more adventurous mixes. Just listen to SACDs from Bis, Telarc, Pentatone and other classical labels that care about recording quality. If you really think that they sound worse than the stereo versions, there is something wrong with your setup, I think. Of course you need good speakers with similar sound signature to achieve a cohesive sound field, and correct placement. In film music I can recommend the Bernard Herrmann SACD from Dutton/Vocalion (Citizen Kane and others). A spectacular release. No, my set up is fine. And I own a few Telarc multichannel SACDs and I still wasn't impressed when I heard them. It all just sounded wrong. But like I've said before, Chicago, DSOTM and Jeff Wayne's WOTW all sounded great in 5.1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyncMan 313 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 A spoiler alert about this new podcast: 2 hours ago, TownerFan said: Hello everyone, Here's part 2 of the podcast featuring Mike Matessino talking about the new SUPERMAN THE MOVIE release from La-La Land Records: https://thelegacyofjohnwilliams.com/2019/02/25/mike-matessino-superman-part-2/ On 2/2/2019 at 10:49 PM, SyncMan said: I still have hope that a L2P Superman-The Movie concert will happen. At the 44:01 mark of the podcast, there is some discussion of a Live-to-Projection concert for Superman. On the podcast, Mike M said that it is “under discussion” and “those talks are continuing.” So, the long and the short of this subject is that a L2P concert is being considered. @TownerFan, when was the podcast recorded that Mike M made that statement? anironwaffle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,647 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Apparently this is on my porch. Won't be able to report on it first - still haven't listened to Prisoner of Azkaban, and I like that better than Superman. I'll listen to it eventually. Just saw on FSM that between website and wholesale sales, they've already moved 3000+ copies of this in the first week. jwalk713 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Croweyes1121 14 Posted February 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, mstrox said: Apparently this is on my porch. Won't be able to report on it first - still haven't listened to Prisoner of Azkaban, and I like that better than Superman. I'll listen to it eventually. Am I the only one who gets irritated by posts like this? "Oh good, this is being delivered today. Not one of my favorites, so I'm not going to listen to it straight away, or report anything about it to anyone who might value the information. But you know what I *am* gonna do...I'm gonna head over to the S:TM thread on jwfan and make sure everyone knows I'm getting it today and choosing not to bother listening to it until after I listen to my Azkaban set". Eh...good for you, I guess? I'm sure we'll all have heard it by the time you "eventually" care to report on it, so honestly, why tell everyone it's been delivered? mstrox, jwalk713 and A. A. Ron 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricsim88 244 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Still waiting for shipping notice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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