Fabulin 3,511 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 On 1/19/2019 at 2:10 AM, Arpy said: Troll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 19 hours ago, Warrior of Wet Dreams said: Anyone else think Solo's the only Star Wars album worth owning? Er...NO!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 He, he....obviously not, Warrior of Wet Dreams, but I salute your guts to take a minority opinion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Just a prediction update: I'd still say it's safe to say that it's a coin toss between First Man and Black Panther, but I feel Black Panther may get the edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 hour ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: Just a prediction update: I'd still say it's safe to say that it's a coin toss between First Man and Black Panther, but I feel Black Panther may get the edge. Pretty sad outcome in either case, but I guess FIRST MAN is the lesser of two evils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 21 hours ago, Thor said: Pretty sad outcome in either case, but I guess FIRST MAN is the lesser of two evils. Eh, that seems a bit overdramatic. Both are very good scores in their own right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Meh. Didn't like either of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,688 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 On 1/18/2019 at 6:15 PM, Warrior of Wet Dreams said: Anyone else think Solo's the only Star Wars album worth owning? There's little highlights with the Williams (and even the Giacchino) scores, but nothing that makes me want to own the CD's. Solo hooks me with Corellia Chase every dang time and I always just have to listen to the rest of the album! With every Star Wars score preceding it, my ears tune out after the main fanfare and I get bored and want to put on something else. I own the CDs for TPM, RotS, TFA and Solo and the latter is the only one that gets any playtime. (I've actually never heard the full albums for any of the OT) So yes, I share a similar disinterest in almost anything SW related. Solo has Powell and that's really the only reason I own it. 3 hours ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: Just a prediction update: I'd still say it's safe to say that it's a coin toss between First Man and Black Panther, but I feel Black Panther may get the edge. This. #OscarsSoWhite will provide the latest PC statement that everyone will be falling over themselves to associate with. It helps that the music sounds African too. Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Thor said: Pretty sad outcome in either case, but I guess FIRST MAN is the lesser of two evils. It's not a sad outcome. They are probably the two most suitable to win from this year's scores. Remember that favourite or best doesnt always equal winning an award. First Man and Black Panther nail the variety and eclectic style that I feel gets the awards these days. I quite liked First Man, and Black Panther has a good cue or two. 1 hour ago, John said: Eh, that seems a bit dramatic. Both are very good scores in their own right. Listening to Waterfall Fight is such a treat! Other than that I'm not a fan of Black Panther. They are both good score in their own right, yes. 51 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: OscarsSoWhite will provide the latest PC statement that everyone will be falling over themselves to associate with. It helps that the music sounds African too. Um, I find this really disappointing. If a composer or a director or an actor/actress wins an award because of the pressing of a social justice agenda, the award is meaningless. However, this doesn't mean that they didn't have the best material and were the top pick for the nomination. I say if you wrote a great score you get the award. If you directed a great film you get the award. If you acted in a great role you get the award. If it just becomes a super equality event for the only reason so as to not appear biased, then it really will become unwatchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Richard Penna said: I own the CDs for TPM, RotS, TFA and Solo and the latter is the only one that gets any playtime. (I've actually never heard the full albums for any of the OT) So yes, I share a similar disinterest in almost anything SW related. Solo has Powell and that's really the only reason I own it. ...Will you marry me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 hour ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: It's not a sad outcome. They are probably the two most suitable to win from this year's scores. Remember that favourite or best doesnt always equal winning an award. First Man and Black Panther nail the variety and eclectic style that I feel gets the awards these days. I quite liked First Man, and Black Panther has a good cue or two. Maybe. I tend not to care what the Academy thinks, or what the 'likely' winners are based on their preferences or current trends. I'm just going by my own judgement, which I trust the most. I don't think any of the nominees/shortlist candidates were that interesting this year -- in fact, only a couple of them managed to sneak in among my 'honourable mentions'. BLACK PANTHER and FIRST MAN were NOT among them. Massively overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 2018 was great in that there were twice as many new scores I fell in love with than usual. Which is to say, Solo and Fallen Kingdom and that's about it. Unless Powell's Hubris counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,286 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Score nominees are Black Panther BlacKKKlansman If Beale Street Could Talk Isle of Dogs Mary Poppins Returns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zanobard 71 Posted January 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2019 First Man wasn't even nominated? Seriously? Such a shame, I thought Hurwitz's work for the film was one of the better scores of 2018. SteveMc, Arpy, John and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 The puppy dog one should win. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 32 minutes ago, Zanobard said: First Man wasn't even nominated? Seriously? Such a shame, I thought Hurwitz's work for the film was one of the better scores of 2018. It was not worthy. Such an average film. Black Panther is most worthy. Its a ground breaking film in many ways. Even my White Privilege can see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanobard 71 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, JoeinAR said: It was not worthy. Such an average film. I mean, I disagree completely. I thought First Man as a movie was amazing, and I found the score fantastic. Don't get me wrong, I do like the score for Black Panther, but nowhere near as much. Arpy and SteveMc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post John 2,032 Posted January 22, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2019 Man, what a snub for Hurwitz. You’d think after his win at the Globes, a nomination, even a win was in the bag. Arpy, Zanobard, SUH and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 14 minutes ago, JoeinAR said: Black Panther is most worthy. Its a ground breaking film in many ways. Even my White Privilege can see that. The special effects... the level of special effects in this film. I mean HUGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,286 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, John said: Man, what a snub for Hurwitz. You’d think after his win at the Globes, a nomination, even a win was in the bag. Looking at the list of Globe winners, he’s now the fifth since 2000 not to get Oscar nominated. So it’s not the surest of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 The hilarious awkwardness of the Academy over-nominating Black Panther to not seem racist, yet by doing so have shown they are. John, Fabulin and Locrius 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Who 919 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Disappointing but not surprising list. JNH should have been nominated. leeallen01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 If they like their race, how can that be racist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, leeallen01 said: The hilarious awkwardness of the Academy over-nominating Black Panther to not seem racist, yet by doing so have shown they are. Black Panther is an incredibly culturally significant film and a darn good movie in its own right. I don’t mind the Academy giving it a nod as an acknowledgement of its importance. JoeinAR and Taikomochi 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 I didn't understand Black Panther since I hadn't seen some of the previous Marvel movies yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 Really? It’s one of the more self contained entries in the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Just now, Zanobard said: I mean, I disagree completely. There are people who do. I felt it lacked the right stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thor 7,504 Posted January 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 hour ago, mrbellamy said: Score nominees are Black Panther BlacKKKlansman If Beale Street Could Talk Isle of Dogs Mary Poppins Returns MARY POPPINS and BLACKKKLANSMAN are OK, I suppose, but far from my favourites of the year. The others are as empty as vapour to me. BLACK PANTHER is the most overrated film and score of the whole year. People have gone nuts over the whole 'representative' thing, but that doesn't make the film or score itself any better. People are weird. leeallen01, crumbs and Arpy 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 14 minutes ago, leeallen01 said: The hilarious awkwardness of the Academy over-nominating Black Panther to not seem racist, yet by doing so have shown they are. It is not unusual for the top US boxoffice winner to nominated and since it is also the highest rated film by the critics it's nominations are justified. 1 minute ago, Thor said: MARY POPPINS and BLACKKKLANSMAN are OK, I suppose, but far from my favourites of the year. The others are as empty as vapour to me. BLACK PANTHER is the most overrated film and score of the whole year. People have gone nuts over the whole 'representative' thing, but that doesn't make the film or score itself any better. People are weird. I think you have it backwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 I still have no idea who will win. Black Panther is a good bet, and not all that bad as a modern age score, everything considered, but Desplat is always a contender. Mary Poppins is the overrated one here, somewhat refreshingly traditional as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Quote I think you have it backwards No. How does the fact that the film is 'culturally significant' (sic) or 'representative' have any bearing whatsoever on the purely aesthetic quality of the film or score? leeallen01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 The contest should have been between Solo and First Man, but we know how these things are. Just now, Thor said: No. How does the fact that the film is 'culturally significant' (sic) or 'representative' have any bearing whatsoever on the quality of the film or score? The Oscars have been about politics since time immemorial. May the best score/film win it ain't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Congratulations to Ludwig Gorranson on his Oscar win! Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Some thoughts: - Black Panther is great but it’s not a oscar-worthy film let’s be honest. - Justin Hurwitz’s snob was odd. I’m not a huge First Man fan but it’s certainly better than Isle of Dogs - Pleased to see Adam Driver getting nominated. He was superb in BlacKkKlansman. - I need to see Roma. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Black Panther joined the ranks of The Incredible Hulk, Thor: The Dark World and Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 as the boringest Marvel flicks. leeallen01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, Thor said: No. How does the fact that the film is 'culturally significant' (sic) or 'representative' have any bearing whatsoever on the purely aesthetic quality of the film or score? Are you purposely being obtuse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trados 11 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 BEST SCORE NOMINEES BEST SONG NOMINEES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 3 hours ago, JoeinAR said: Are you purposely being obtuse? No, are you? You suggested it was "the other way around" when I suggested there is no connection between a film being 'representative' and its values on a purely aesthetic level. So I'm curious to know what your connection is there. Fabulin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Next years Best Picture winner will be titled 'Black Feminism,' A film directed by Oprah, with an all-black transgender cast, but the music, production design, costume design, art direction, cinematography, sound editing and mixing, visual effects are all by white people. But as long as the film appears progessive on the surface, it doesn't matter. I can see the reviews now... "The film has an all-black transgender cast. Therefore it's a great film. Any one who doesn't like it, or who thinks it's good but not the most revolutionary masterpiece of our times, is simply a racist, sexist, homophobic pig." Kasey Kockroach, Fabulin and Arpy 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 I find its message very representative of the current world. It is judgemental on both its own society and the surrounding world. It has something to say that needs to be heard. I find the film very craftful even artistic on so many levels. It confronts racism head on. Its not afraid to turn that eye inwards as well. Am I reading too much into it? Perhaps but it also paints a beautiful picture if you plan to just go watch one hell of an exciting movie. Its checks off all the boxes of a great film. Outstanding direction, a great ensemble cast(something too easily dismissed), great classic storyline, and it goes without saying top notch technicals. John and Not Mr. Big 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Well, at least you pointed out some non-'social' reasons for why you liked the movie. I can accept that, even if I disagree completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 For the record, I enjoyed Black Panther. It was a flawed film, but still liked it overall, including the score. But we all know why the film was nominated for Best Picture. And it wasn't because the Academy thought it was one of the 8 best films of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 26 minutes ago, leeallen01 said: For the record, I enjoyed Black Panther. It was a flawed film, but still liked it overall, including the score. But we all know why the film was nominated for Best Picture. And it wasn't because the Academy thought it was one of the 8 best films of the year. Bullshit. As previously pointed out its nomination is nothing out of the ordinary. The biggest critical and most popular films of the year usually get an Oscar nomination for best picture. Only 3 US films have ever broken 700 million dollars in domestic grosses. All three received best picture nominations as of today. Your argument would carry more weight if it came last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 hour ago, leeallen01 said: Next years Best Picture winner will be titled 'Black Feminism,' A film directed by Oprah, with an all-black transgender cast, but the music, production design, costume design, art direction, cinematography, sound editing and mixing, visual effects are all by white people. But as long as the film appears progessive on the surface, it doesn't matter. I can see the reviews now... "The film has an all-black transgender cast. Therefore it's a great film. Any one who doesn't like it, or who thinks it's good but not the most revolutionary masterpiece of our times, is simply a racist, sexist, homophobic pig." It's like you describing Kamala Harris' presidential campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,315 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Once again, Williams misses out on being nominated in a year where the competition is pretty ordinary and there's no standout. Just watch, next year when he gets nominated for SWIX, there'll be 2 or 3 really popular alternatives that get the votes instead (just like Morricone with TFA, FOTR with Potter/AI, Brokeback with Memoirs, etc.) I don't think he'll ever get that elusive 6th Oscar. Also, based on the 5 nominees, I reckon Solo was a shoe-in for a nomination were it eligible. Nice work, Disney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Best Score nominees: Hmm: black issues, black issues, black issues, polarised minority, white female authority figure. It's open season, guys. And they say the Oscars ain't political Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ii2 210 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Best Score: First Man Nominee: Black Panther Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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