Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 E.T. or Poltergeist should have won. Don't be dumbasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Vangelis won? Maybe Williams and Goldsmith aren't as good as I thought they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 4 hours ago, Fabulin said: Why was 1982 so great? The first thing I notice is Vangelis winning over Williams and North. That's 81... 82, Williams won obvs. JoeinAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,301 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Roma actor has been denied visas to US – and might miss the Oscars Quote Alfonso Cuarón's 1970s drama Roma is a critical darling with 10 Oscar nominations to its credit. But one of its stars – Mexican actor Jorge Antonio Guerrero Martinez, who plays the brooding militant Fermin – has not been able to secure a visa to attend screenings and other industry events in the US, according to an interview the actor gave to the Mexican lifestyle magazine Quien. Pretty bloody sad. He was excellent in the film, many shades of grey. At times you feel sad for him, other times downright hate him, but he really impressed me with his performance in the film. I don't understand the grounds for visa denial if it's just to attend the Oscars and there's no criminal history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,471 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Geez. That's today's US government for ya. THE HANDMAID'S TALE, here you come! crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,473 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 5 hours ago, crumbs said: Roma actor has been denied visas to US – and might miss the Oscars Pretty bloody sad. He was excellent in the film, many shades of grey. At times you feel sad for him, other times downright hate him, but he really impressed me with his performance in the film. I don't understand the grounds for visa denial if it's just to attend the Oscars and there's no criminal history. It is dangerous and disingenuous to suggest without evidence that something nefarious is at play here. US vets all visa applicants. Maybe something turned up in his background check. How would we know this? There are literally hundreds of thousands of people who apply for visas to visit the US per year and they do get visas. Locrius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mrbellamy 6,272 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 I believe Joey was talking about the film year, not the ceremony year, but I could be wrong. I definitely think of these as the 2018 Oscars, personally. I’ve never liked referring to them by the ceremony date. JoeinAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 16 hours ago, Fabulin said: Why was 1982 so great? The first thing I notice is Vangelis winning over Williams and North. The Oscars for 1982 were held in 1983. 1982 was not just great. It was the greatest. Fabulin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 17 hours ago, John said: Vangelis deserved the Oscar that year. No he did not. Williams deserved an Oscar for film years 1974, 1975, 1977, 1978, 1980, 1981, 1982, and 1984. Ricard and Fabulin 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted January 25, 2019 Author Share Posted January 25, 2019 Naw. Raiders is a mighty fine adventure film score. Chariots of Fire is a masterpiece of electronic film scoring. @Ricard you disagree? Thor and Ricard 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,510 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 . John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,471 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, John said: Naw. Raiders is a mighty fine adventure film score. Chariots of Fire is a masterpiece of electronic film scoring. You said it! Totally agree. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, John said: Naw. Raiders is a mighty fine adventure film score. Chariots of Fire is a masterpiece of electronic film scoring. Chariots is hummable but Raiders is iconic. CoF isn't even in its league. Other than the main title is actually a bad electronic bit of noise. Raiders of the Lost Ark is a five-star score Vangelis Chariots of Fire is worthy of no more than two stars Fabulin and Ricard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 21 minutes ago, JoeinAR said: No, indeed he did not. Williams deserved an Oscar for film years 1975 and 1993. Goldsmith deserved the Oscars in 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984 and 1990. Powell deserved the Oscars in 2010, 2014, 2017 and 2018. Agreed, my good man! JoeinAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,510 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 . TheUlyssesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 I never liked Underdog. Polly Purebred got on my nerves, especially her whining that "oh where oh where has my underdog gone" song. Fabulin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,471 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 31 minutes ago, JoeinAR said: Chariots is hummable but Raiders is iconic. CoF isn't even in its league. Other than the main title is actually a bad electronic bit of noise. Raiders of the Lost Ark is a five-star score Vangelis Chariots of Fire is worthy of no more than two stars Pretty clear you haven't actually heard CHARIOTS. "Eric's Theme" is my favourite, even more than the iconic main theme. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 On 1/25/2019 at 4:18 PM, John said: Raiders is a mighty fine adventure film score. Chariots of Fire is a masterpiece of electronic film scoring. Raiders >>> Chariots of Fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 This one's a guilty pleasure of mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Thor said: Pretty clear you haven't actually heard CHARIOTS. "Eric's Theme" is my favourite, even more than the iconic main theme. Don't be silly. Like everyone else I bought the album in 81. It was short Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 I like the running music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 The Seinfeld race music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Will you come to Hawaii with me, Jerry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Depends on the date you had in mind, but I'd be happy to make arrangements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Don't worry, Lois. I'll think of something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Yes, Mr. Bevilacqua. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Emily Blunt not being nominated for either Mary Poppins or A Quiet Place was a bit of a surprise but her brilliant performances speak for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted January 26, 2019 Author Share Posted January 26, 2019 57 minutes ago, JoeinAR said: Emily Blunt not being nominated for either Mary Poppins or A Quiet Place was a bit of a surprise but her brilliant performances speak for themselves. Well, one of them does, at least. Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 10 minutes ago, John said: Well, one of them does, at least. Heh what a scream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,133 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 The outrage over the lack of diversity in movies today is illogical. For example, only 13% of the US population is black. And only 17% is latino, hispanic etc. Therefore an expected ratio of 70% white and 30% being non-white in movies is acceptable based on the population. But of course different races and ethnicity's tend to stay within their own groups on the whole. Therefore all black casts and all white casts for films is also acceptable. People complain about the stereotypical token cast member of a different race or ethnicity, yet that is the truth of social groups. In my group of roughly 15 friends, we have 1 black friend. That happened naturally. Not by design or by discrimination. So if a film was made about my life, then the cast would have only 1 black person in it. And zero Asian, hispanic etc. That wouldn't be a racist film, it would simply be the truth. Having a token black friend in teen movies is the truth, unless the film explores a group of black teens. Then of course a token white friend may be present. Both are acceptable because both are normally true in todays world. An all black film is fine, as is an all white film or all asian film, if the film is set in their respective communities. But forced diversity in an attempt to 'include' all racial and ethnic groups in one film is simply a false view of the world, and is one of the reasons why people react negatively to films of that kind, because that view of the world isn't familiar to us, and we reject the unfamiliar or untrue. Fabulin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 50/50 reprethentathun!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,510 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 . Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 1 hour ago, leeallen01 said: The outrage over the lack of diversity in movies today is illogical. For example, only 13% of the US population is black. And only 17% is latino, hispanic etc. Therefore an expected ratio of 70% white and 30% being non-white in movies is acceptable based on the population. But of course different races and ethnicity's tend to stay within their own groups on the whole. Therefore all black casts and all white casts for films is also acceptable. People complain about the stereotypical token cast member of a different race or ethnicity, yet that is the truth of social groups. In my group of roughly 15 friends, we have 1 black friend. That happened naturally. Not by design or by discrimination. So if a film was made about my life, then the cast would have only 1 black person in it. And zero Asian, hispanic etc. That wouldn't be a racist film, it would simply be the truth. Having a token black friend in teen movies is the truth, unless the film explores a group of black teens. Then of course a token white friend may be present. Both are acceptable because both are normally true in todays world. An all black film is fine, as is an all white film or all asian film, if the film is set in their respective communities. But forced diversity in an attempt to 'include' all racial and ethnic groups in one film is simply a false view of the world, and is one of the reasons why people react negatively to films of that kind, because that view of the world isn't familiar to us, and we reject the unfamiliar or untrue. mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Likely a product of White Flight. I've been around other ethnicities much of my life, especially once I left home. You notice because the Hispanic chicks have really wild curvy sex ready bodies, black people play loud music that sounds like Godzilla is approaching, Asians go to Disneyland in droves and stop to take pictures everywhere and Middle Easterners are in every convenience store and motel. Those percentages don't seem accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 3 hours ago, leeallen01 said: The outrage over the lack of diversity in movies today is illogical. For example, only 13% of the US population is black. And only 17% is latino, hispanic etc. Therefore an expected ratio of 70% white and 30% being non-white in movies is acceptable based on the population. But of course different races and ethnicity's tend to stay within their own groups on the whole. Therefore all black casts and all white casts for films is also acceptable. People complain about the stereotypical token cast member of a different race or ethnicity, yet that is the truth of social groups. In my group of roughly 15 friends, we have 1 black friend. That happened naturally. Not by design or by discrimination. So if a film was made about my life, then the cast would have only 1 black person in it. And zero Asian, hispanic etc. That wouldn't be a racist film, it would simply be the truth. Having a token black friend in teen movies is the truth, unless the film explores a group of black teens. Then of course a token white friend may be present. Both are acceptable because both are normally true in todays world. An all black film is fine, as is an all white film or all asian film, if the film is set in their respective communities. But forced diversity in an attempt to 'include' all racial and ethnic groups in one film is simply a false view of the world, and is one of the reasons why people react negatively to films of that kind, because that view of the world isn't familiar to us, and we reject the unfamiliar or untrue. what a complete pile of rubbish. Films are not made to some statistical demographic breakdown of society. as stated before the white privilege is rather deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 the Oscar telecast in an effort to stay under 3 hours has cut 3 song performances. if they want to stay under 3 hours dont show the awards for shorts and documentaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,473 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 4 hours ago, JoeinAR said: the Oscar telecast in an effort to stay under 3 hours has cut 3 song performances. if they want to stay under 3 hours dont show the awards for shorts and documentaries. Why should they get the boot. I would cut out all the song performances in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Anyone ever hope they don't win just to avoid having to give a speech? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,473 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Nobody ever! You don't have to give a speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 19 hours ago, leeallen01 said: The outrage over the lack of diversity in movies today is illogical. For example, only 13% of the US population is black. And only 17% is latino, hispanic etc. Therefore an expected ratio of 70% white and 30% being non-white in movies is acceptable based on the population. But of course different races and ethnicity's tend to stay within their own groups on the whole. Therefore all black casts and all white casts for films is also acceptable. People complain about the stereotypical token cast member of a different race or ethnicity, yet that is the truth of social groups. In my group of roughly 15 friends, we have 1 black friend. That happened naturally. Not by design or by discrimination. So if a film was made about my life, then the cast would have only 1 black person in it. And zero Asian, hispanic etc. That wouldn't be a racist film, it would simply be the truth. Having a token black friend in teen movies is the truth, unless the film explores a group of black teens. Then of course a token white friend may be present. Both are acceptable because both are normally true in todays world. An all black film is fine, as is an all white film or all asian film, if the film is set in their respective communities. But forced diversity in an attempt to 'include' all racial and ethnic groups in one film is simply a false view of the world, and is one of the reasons why people react negatively to films of that kind, because that view of the world isn't familiar to us, and we reject the unfamiliar or untrue. I work in a pretty average warehouse in a pretty average American suburb and my department has eight white men, two white women, one black man, one black woman, four Hispanic women, and three Hispanic men. On weekends my usual group of friends over the last couple years has been four white men, a Hispanic man, and a white trans woman. My roommate is a white man and my dearest childhood friend is a black woman. Family get-togethers are mostly white people, except for my Hispanic and Indian aunts who married in and obviously the kids who are mixed race. It feels ridiculous listing it out like that but I'm just saying that I'm a white guy with pretty limited life experiences, I like hanging out online by myself a lot and I have always grown up and lived in relatively well-off, conservative, predominantly white neighborhoods and diversity isn't much of a contrivance in my day-to-day life. Anyway, I don't think the idea is so much about picking on any individual movie as "racist" because it stars white people but just getting the overall film landscape to collectively reflect a range of experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 5 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said: Why should they get the boot. I would cut out all the song performances in a heartbeat. Because people do like the songs but far fewer care about documentary shorts documentary long features Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 On 1/24/2019 at 11:43 AM, Warrior of Wet Dreams said: Blank Panther because it's a very empty movie you forget about two minutes after watching. Shhhh. White people are not allowed to hate Black Panther. It's racist. 14 hours ago, leeallen01 said: Having a token black friend in teen movies is the truth I had no black friend until I was in college at 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,473 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 43 minutes ago, JoeinAR said: Because people do like the songs but far fewer care about documentary shorts documentary long features Oscars are definitely not a popularity contest. And I think attention from the general public is a losing battle and has been waning for decades now. It is more about its history and celebrating the best in cinema as much as they can. So to that end, they would maintain their integrity by keeping the shorts and non-fiction categories which have been part of every single broadcast. I would actually propose eliminating the best song category. I don't think they add anything to the movies and are a relic of the times when there were like 30 musicals every year. Not anymore. Nowadays the songs are only played over end credits. It is a redundant category. Better to eliminate that. I know the want because the want music stars to attend and perform, but logically, they should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 53 minutes ago, W0$ said: I had no black friend until I was in college at 18. The only American black guy I know is an elderly academic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 I disagree about the song category. However I propose they return the special effect category to a special achievement Oscar for when they are exceptional and ground breaking. The same with makeup. Only give it when it pushes the art to the boundaries or beyond. I think that making the awards more accessible to the public is not a bad thing. I believe it can be done without selling out. I just think they should limited the categories for the main telecast and another telecast for lesser or secondary awards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,473 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 25 minutes ago, JoeinAR said: I disagree about the song category. However I propose they return the special effect category to a special achievement Oscar for when they are exceptional and ground breaking. The same with makeup. Only give it when it pushes the art to the boundaries or beyond. I think that making the awards more accessible to the public is not a bad thing. I believe it can be done without selling out. I just think they should limited the categories for the main telecast and another telecast for lesser or secondary awards. I would 1. Eliminate Song 2. Fuse the 2 sound categories 3. Fold make-up into Costume Design I would cut out the presentations of the best picture nominees. Really pointless. I would cut out clips for the acting nominees. Again pointless. I would cut out In Memorium. All of these would save time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 It's a song! You green-blooded...Vulcan! The words aren't important. What's important is that you have a good time singing it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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