Brundlefly 2,385 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 It is time to create once again the annual New Jerry Goldsmith Projects-thread which is supposed to gather information and hints of upcoming Jerry Goldsmith titles in 2019. There were a few assumptions and predictions from the last year that are still very reasonable. The very exciting news is that Varese Sarabande has given their perpetuity rights given to another special label for the first time ever. Maybe that makes a future distinction between usual titles and Varese-owned titles dispensable. Releases that happened in 2017: - Thriller re-recording by Tadlow - Poltergeist II: The Other Side improved re-release by Intrada - Papillon expansion by Quartet - One Little Indian re-release by Intrada - The Haunting expansion by Varese Sarabande - Damnation Alley premiere release by Intrada - The Russia House expansion by Quartet Releases that happened in 2018: - Rambo III improved re-release by Intrada - Thriller 2 re-recording by Tadlow - Baby: Secret of the Lost Legend improved re-release by Intrada - 100 Rifles improved re-release/Rio Conchos re-release by La-La Land - Small Soldiers expansion by Varese Sarabande - The Mummy expansion by Intrada - The Lonely Guy expansion and premiere CD release by Intrada - The Reincarnation of Peter Proud premiere release by Intrada Releases that happened in 2019: - Warning Shot improved re-release/Archer premiere release by La-La Land - Raggedy Man re-release by Varese Sarabande - Barnaby Jones premiere release by La-La Land - Planet of the Apes/Escape from the Planet of the Apes improved re-releases by La-La Land - Air Force One expansion by Varese Sarabande - The Great Train Robbery improved re-release by Quartet Already hinted at releases: - The Swarm (La-La Land) - Innerspace (La-La Land) Very probables releases: - Mulan (This title just missed the 20th anniversary opportunity, but still either Intrada or Disney is very probable to expand it sooner or later.) - The Last Castle (The latest Jerry Goldsmith score, not owned by Varese, which is very likely to be expanded by Intrada or Quartet.) - Leviathan (Last year, it was revealed that this score is not in Varese's territory and as the score has been recorded in Italy, Quartet is the most probable label to expand it.) - Supergirl (If it is not owned by Silva, this is very likely to get the same treatment like The Swarm.) - The Boys from Brazil (Intrada re-releasing their catalogue almost chronologically suggests a re-release of that title, rather sooner than later.) Probable Varese releases: - Timeline (Under the circumstances of the anniversary opportunity.) - U.S. Marshals (Varese seems to focus on expansions of scores whose initial releases where way too short, so this should be next.) Releases that will probably not happen: - several pre-80s scores that seem to be lost - The Secret of NIMH (apparently lost) - Under Fire (apparently lost) - Legend (apparently lost) - Link (apparently lost) What do YOU think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,174 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 A modern remaster of Planet of the Apes has been overdue for at least a decade now. The Illustrious Jerry and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted January 2, 2019 Author Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Marian Schedenig said: A modern remaster of Planet of the Apes has been overdue for at least a decade now. I forgot about that. It's now listed as "Probable Varese Releases". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,590 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 I wouldn’t say it’s probable. Last year (the 50th anniversary) would have made the most sense to release a new edition, and Varese didn’t seem at all interested. But I hope they change their minds! Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Legend is probably lost? That's a bummer! What is the source of this statement? Legend is a Jerry score I am almost certain I will like a lot, but I've been holding out on checking it out until the specialty labels finally do a comprehensive/modern updated version. Is it really so sure no such release could be forthcoming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Speaking relatively, yes (quoting James Fitzpatrick: the only tapes that exist of LEGEND are the ones I used ... and I used every bit of music on those tapes....and the studio where LEGEND was recorded , Sony/Whifield Street, my favourite London studio to record in, ceased to exist a few years ago ...as did their tape library). But of course, nobody actually was witness to a cackling Rumpelstilskin burning all those tapes. Given the modest price and the fact it's Goldsmith last masterpiece, i'd still say it's a minor crime not to own any version, digitally or else, of the old Silva (or Varése) 70-minute version. POTA will not sound great whatever you do with it, The Swarm sounds great in the released versions, so i hold out for a sound update of Supergirl, which isn't a great score but has enough Star Trek/Fantasy panache that the current versions rankle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,590 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Never say never -- we've seen Damnation Alley and The Reincarnation of Peter Proud released (as well as non-Jerry scores we were told couldn't happen like Alien3, Dracula, and Murder By Death just this past year). But yeah, James Fitzpatrick's comments on Legend make it seem highly unlikely that a further expansion would happen. I think it's in the same camp as Link and we'll have to content ourselves with the poor sounding footwarmer for the unreleased cues. At least the greatest highlights have been commercially released on the expanded Silva though. PotA can sound a LOT better than the Varese complete edition, as the previous Intrada edition demonstrated. I couldn't disagree more about Legend being "Goldsmith's last masterpiece" of course. Quote The Last Castle (The latest Jerry Goldsmith score, not owned by Varese, which is very likely to be expanded by Intrada or Quartet.) Has Quartet ever expanded a DreamWorks title? I think this is more likely to come out from LLL than Quartet, but you're probably right about Intrada being most likely. I think you're probably right about AFO and USM being worked on by Varese. I hope you're right about Timeline, but anniversaries aren't always taken advantage of -- witness PotA, Looney Tunes, and Matinee just this past year, for example. I also really hope for Medicine Man and Love Field Deluxe from Varese soon. And call me crazy if you like...but also Mom and Dad Save the World. I'm hoping with the Universal vaults opening up more that Intrada or LLL will bring us a definitive edition of MacArthur and the premiere of The Don Is Dead this coming year. Of course any other premieres that can happen would send me over the moon...maybe tapes can be discovered for Crawlspace, The Man, or Shamus! I live in hope anyway. I'm also hoping that the few remaining Fox scores including on the Varese Goldsmith at Fox box set can finally be expanded to complete form: A Tree Grows in Brooklyn, Anna and the King, and yes...S*P*Y*S. Speaking of the Fox box...as with Von Ryan's Express, The Detective, Shock Treatment, etc., Damnation Alley was on that and therefore not a premiere from Intrada. They added over a third of the score, though...some might say the best third. Yavar Jay and Amer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Hoping for: Air Force One - DE (with the McNeely cues) Leviathan - expanded or re-issue MacArthur - expanded Raggedy Man - expanded or re-issue Twilight's Last Gleaming - expanded The Flim-Flam Man - re-issue with better art Mulan - expanded The 'Burbs - Encore of the DE Supergirl - as complete as possible Black Patch / Face of a Fugitive - Intrada Excalibur Kickstarter The Public Eye / Babe (rejected) - if recorded otherwise new recordings This will do for me. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,590 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Calling all Legend fans...Intrada's Roger F. just posted something interesting at the FSM board:http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=111520&forumID=1&archive=0&pageID=1&r=404#bottom I'm hoping the reason AFO hasn't happened yet is because they're dealing with both McNeely and Randy Newman -- the latter's unused score really is quite good music on its own, and deserves an official release, if Randy isn't too uncomfortable having it released alongside Jerry & Joel's work. There might be issues with that of course. Leviathan definitely needs to be expanded JTWFan77. Lots of interesting varied material left off: http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=110196&archive=0 Pretty sure Twilight's Last Gleaming only has one short bit unreleased (maybe around half a minute) -- this might be lost and not included on the previous album because it was recorded as part of a pickup session. I hope it can be found and released though because it's pretty badass. I wouldn't mind for The Flim-Flam Man and A Girl Named Sooner twofer to be reissued with a sound and art upgrade. Some folks at the FSM board have at least put out some superior custom artwork for both scores in the custom covers thread there. The Public Eye *was* definitely recorded according to Mike Ross-Trevor (who was there working on it!) But it seems the recording may have been lost or misplaced since then, so it still might need to be freshly recorded. Babe was apparently not recorded (although there are some little indications that it may have been)...however it does survive in written form (apparently Jerry completed around three quarters of the score, on paper): Here's hoping it can be released some day. Seems like a good Kickstarter subject for Goldsmith fans. Speaking of unused scores that were written, The Kid is another project Jerry worked on with written scores surviving in the Academy Herrick library. Yavar 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 384 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Yavar Moradi said: PotA can sound a LOT better than the Varese complete edition, as the previous Intrada edition demonstrated. And it's missing a rescore as well as a potential alternate main titles cue, based on this discussion Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 17 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said: Calling all Legend fans...Intrada's Roger F. just posted something interesting at the FSM board:http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=111520&forumID=1&archive=0&pageID=1&r=404#bottom Not seeing anything by Roger at the link Yavar? What did he say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Roger's post is definitely at that link; Forums have more than one page don't forget Quote Quote The film Version of The Unicorns has a 30 second bridge for French Horns (absent from all albums) that make an already fabulous cue simply incredible. Sure, one can say "Why bitch over missing a mere 30 seconds?", but the content within it evokes more power (IMHO) than the whole 8 minute piece. Perhaps it was recorded as an insert? Either way, the inclusion of that (if possible) would have me rebuying the score. I'd buy a Tadlow re-recording if they included it! Not entirely true. The expanded Unicorns track was available on the original Film Trax CD and the Japanese CD. I have no idea why it was dropped from the expanded editions. There’s one more unreleased cue that I can think of. And those masters do exist. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,590 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Seems the FSM forum is down right now, so I'm glad you copy and pasted the relevant info into the thread Jay -- thanks. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 When Roger says "those masters do exist.", I hope he means masters for the complete score, and that a definitive Intrada edition is in the works. That's what I've been waiting for! Amer and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,590 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 48 minutes ago, Jay said: When Roger says "those masters do exist.", I hope he means masters for the complete score, and that a definitive Intrada edition is in the works. That's what I've been waiting for! I hope so too which is why I asked for clarification on that statement. However, just because masters exist doesn't mean Intrada can produce a definitive edition. Last we've all heard (from MV I think), Legend and Supergirl are still controlled by Silva. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 Disney, Silva and Varese are really annoying with their stupid perpetuity rights! I would love a re-recording of Planet of the Apes! If it's done right, that would even be more exciting than another Deluxe Edition! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 A rerecording of Planet of the Apes was just released two years ago. http://www.pithikosentertainment.com/pota-cd.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 That is not a real re-recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,590 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 It is when it comes to the percussion parts, recreated on the original instruments. But yeah all the rest is synthetic, unfortunately. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Still, it's better than listening to the original. Brundlefly and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,590 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 8 hours ago, publicist said: Still, it's better than listening to the original. Whoa, seriously? It sounds kinda like what Jerry would have written in the early 80s with no budget for an orchestra. It's interesting to be sure, but it's kinda like PotA by way of Runaway. I prefer the original, though I'm impressed by the one-man work that went into the re-rec (and if a re-recording with orchestra is ever produced, we know who should perform the percussion parts!) And again, the Intrada though incomplete luckily has much superior sound to the Varese. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 A Tadlow re-recording would be better to listen to than the bad sounding original recording and the synthetic one-man project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,590 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Well, the Tadlow re-creation of The Blue Max isn't perfect, performance-wise, and I actually prefer the original recording remastered by LLL. I think the Intrada album shows the original recording can sound good...and no doubt a Mattesino restoration with modern tech would sound even better than that, much less the Varese with disappointing sound. If the LLL Blue Max can have as good a sound improvement as it did, then I think PotA can have a similar sound improvement. I don't think there will be any more Tadlow Goldsmith recordings, but if there are, I'd prefer they focus on scores that are apparently lost like Black Patch, Face of a Fugitive, Shamus, Pursuit, The Man, etc. Or something with MUCH more problematic sound than PotA, like Seconds (one of my absolute favorites, and I'm still grateful for the LLL despite being taken from stems with occasional dialogue bleed) or The Satan Bug (the more badass half of which has intrusive SFX) or heck even The Reincarnation of Peter Proud (what did you end up thinking of that, by the way? I think it's a fascinating, unique, creative, and effective score...but Damnation Alley is so much more fun as an album, for my tastes) Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 4 hours ago, Yavar Moradi said: Whoa, seriously? It sounds kinda like what Jerry would have written in the early 80s with no budget for an orchestra. It's interesting to be sure, but it's kinda like PotA by way of Runaway. It's not exactly a score i put on for listening pleasure. For intellectual stimulation, the old releases just sound too brittle and shrill for me. I can have that for rip-roaring stuff like '100 Rifles' but 'Seconds' or POTA...no. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Yavar Moradi said: Well, the Tadlow re-creation of The Blue Max isn't perfect, performance-wise, and I actually prefer the original recording remastered by LLL. What are refering to? I listened to this and thought that the new performance is basically a copy of the original performance. Do you mean individual sections of the orchestra that don't do a perfect job? 2 hours ago, Yavar Moradi said: I don't think there will be any more Tadlow Goldsmith recordings, but if there are, I'd prefer they focus on scores that are apparently lost like Black Patch, Face of a Fugitive, Shamus, Pursuit, The Man, etc. Why do you think that? I was hoping for Lionheart and Planet of the Apes (in case, Varese doesn't care about improved reissues of the originals) to happen sometime. Isn't the re-recording trend a rising business (with Intrada and Quartet also joining the club). 2 hours ago, Yavar Moradi said: The Reincarnation of Peter Proud (what did you end up thinking of that, by the way? I think it's a fascinating, unique, creative, and effective score...but Damnation Alley is so much more fun as an album, for my tastes) I got the CD yesterday and listened to it today. I agree with you on "fascinating, unique, creative, and effective". It is a very special score, but it is also very hard to get into. You must really be a music, film music and Jerry Goldsmith admirer to get anything out of these restrained, subtle, eerie and unpleasant 62 minutes. The sound quality doesn't make access easier. However, since I am an admirer of Jerry Goldsmith, I am looking forward to "grapple" with that very special score. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,174 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 If Tadlow stop doing Goldsmith recordings (which I hope they won't for some time), my wish is that they turn their attention to Elmer Bernstein's The Hallelujah Trail. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,590 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 1 hour ago, publicist said: It's not exactly a score i put on for listening pleasure. For intellectual stimulation, the old releases just sound too brittle and shrill for me. I can have that for rip-roaring stuff like '100 Rifles' but 'Seconds' or POTA...no. That's interesting. I do agree about the Varese CD being brittle and shrill but I think the Intrada sounds much better. I don't think "brittle and shrill" is among the problems of Seconds, even though it doesn't sound great. But I can't get enough of the sad and brittle (emotionally, not sound-wise) love theme from that. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,590 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Brundlefly said: What are referring to? I listened to this and thought that the new performance is basically a copy of the original performance. Do you mean individual sections of the orchestra that don't do a perfect job? Try the opening of The Attack and compare the cool and unique off-kilter drum rhythm of the original performance to the Tadlow, which changes it. Another moment that feels off: The wind machine in The Baloon/First Blood/Victory is way too prominent. It's super subtle in the film score but here it is unbalanced and overwhelms. Most of the recording is good, but it's not perfect. Maybe I'm just pickier since this is such a seminal Goldsmith work compared to something like The Salamander or Hour of the Gun, which I compared less closely on. But on the other hand, QBVII is one of my favorite Goldsmith scores of all time and I think Tadlow pretty much NAILED that one. 1 hour ago, Brundlefly said: Why do you think that? I was hoping for Lionheart and Planet of the Apes (in case, Varese doesn't care about improved reissues of the originals) to happen sometime. Isn't the re-recording trend a rising business (with Intrada and Quartet also joining the club). I think it because James Fitzpatrick has said as much. In regards to Goldsmith in particular, it was revealed on the FSM board recently that sales of Prometheus's Goldsmith series were disappointing (though not as much as some of their other titles like The Alamo, or Tadlow's Taras Bulba) so Luc van de Ven has opted not to fund any more Goldsmith (and seems to be virtually stopping funding anyway, though he did pay for The Vikings recently). I think the only Tadlow Goldsmith recording that might happen in the future is a third volume of Thriller to finish off Jerry's contribution to that series, assuming the second volume sold anywhere near as well as the first one apparently did. But this is because Thriller scores are much less expensive to record (small orchestras) than the big things. 1 hour ago, Brundlefly said: I got the CD yesterday and listened to it today. I agree with you on "fascinating, unique, creative, and effective". It is a very special score, but it is also very hard to get into. You must really be a music, film music and Jerry Goldsmith admirer to get anything out of these restrained, subtle, eerie and unpleasant 62 minutes. The sound quality doesn't make access easier. However, since I am an admirer of Jerry Goldsmith, I am looking forward to "grapple" with that very special score. I find parts of it easy to get into (the thematic parts are very nice), but the rest is very modernist and challenging, yes. Not that Damnation Alley doesn't have parts like that, but they aren't dominant in the score and there's plenty of rhythm to keep the less melodic parts going. I suspect you'll appreciate Peter Proud more if you ever get around to seeing the film (which was recently put out on Blu-ray). But definitely a score in any case which rewards more with multiple listens, because of all the layers it has. Not an easy score but one you can keep going back to to get more out of. Yavar Amer and Brundlefly 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted January 6, 2019 Author Share Posted January 6, 2019 On 1/5/2019 at 1:09 AM, Yavar Moradi said: I think it because James Fitzpatrick has said as much. In regards to Goldsmith in particular, it was revealed on the FSM board recently that sales of Prometheus's Goldsmith series were disappointing (though not as much as some of their other titles like The Alamo, or Tadlow's Taras Bulba) so Luc van de Ven has opted not to fund any more Goldsmith (and seems to be virtually stopping funding anyway, though he did pay for The Vikings recently). I think the only Tadlow Goldsmith recording that might happen in the future is a third volume of Thriller to finish off Jerry's contribution to that series, assuming the second volume sold anywhere near as well as the first one apparently did. But this is because Thriller scores are much less expensive to record (small orchestras) than the big things. I don't think that they've got the balls for that. Sooner or later they give it another try, I bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted February 11, 2019 Author Share Posted February 11, 2019 I added the first release of 2019 to the list: "Warning Shot improved re-release/Archer premiere release by La-La Land". Hopefully I'll soon be able to add two more releases: The forthcoming Varese batch should include at least one Goldsmith score. I'm hoping for expansions of either Air Force One or U.S.Marshals. An improved re-release of Lionheart or Planet of the Apes would be awesome as well. Last year, Intrada indicated that there would potentially be two Goldsmith releases before their christmas break. Only one of them did happen so far, so the question is, where is the other? It can't be that far off. I can remember a few comments somewhere which implied that a complete score release of Legend is no longer impossible. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,590 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Hopefully The Public Eye doesn't take too long to work out the licensing and restoration... Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted March 15, 2019 Author Share Posted March 15, 2019 So the last Varese Encore was dedicated to Jerry Goldsmith, but it was not as people expected or wanted it The 'Burbs (cough...30th Anniversary Edition...cough). Instead we got a reissue of Raggedy Man which was out of print for 28 years now! With three batches this year, that is not going to be the last 2019 Jerry Goldsmith release by Varese Sarabande. I'll be bounding about like a young gazelle, if they keep up the high quality of their most recent releases and just raise the amount of batches per year. In their announcement they sound very motivated and enthusiatic. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted July 16, 2019 Author Share Posted July 16, 2019 Wow, La-La Land is really doing a great job this year. And still nothing from Intrada... Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,590 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Yeah LLL is kicking ass on The Goldsmith front this year, but I have a feeling Intrada has some surprises up their sleeves too. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 On January 2, 2019 at 5:19 PM, Marian Schedenig said: A modern remaster of Planet of the Apes has been overdue for at least a decade now. It's here! It's here! Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,174 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Neil S. Bulk is working on a Goldsmith score I don't have yet: Candidates that come to my mind are: Air Force One (if he didn't count my manually labelled CDR) The Swarm Macarthur Six Degrees of Separation (Going by scores that have been released but that I never picked up, because his comment sounds like it's something that I already could have but don't) Jay and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Why don't you have a legal copy of Air Force One? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 I want The Swarm the most out of the four Marian listed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 I've never heard that score or seen that film. What's the score like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,174 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 16 minutes ago, Jay said: Why don't you have a legal copy of Air Force One? I have a CDR with some of the boot tracks from back when I didn't pick up an original pressing of every CD. By the time I began replacing my CDRs with "proper" copies, we were already in the "everything will be released eventually" age. I buy all these expansions/remasters anyway, so I don't feel compelled to hunt down copies of the OSTs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Makes sense. I have to imagine Varese will get around to expanding Air Force One eventually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,174 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jay said: I've never heard that score or seen that film. What's the score like? There's a cue on the old City of Prague Goldsmith compilation that sounds very cool. And if I recall correctly, Goldsmith used "B-E-E-E" as a motif. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,499 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 11 minutes ago, Jay said: I've never heard that score or seen that film. What's the score like? Frankly, Jay, it's among his finest. It's energetic, tender, tense, soaring, and triumphant. In short: everything the film isn't. It's Jerry's JAWS 2. It's also #6 on my all-time top-Jerry list. Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 I doubt JG will do any new projects in 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,499 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Marian Schedenig said: There's a cue on the old City of Prague Goldsmith compilation that sounds very cool. And if I recall correctly, Goldsmith used "B-E-E-E" as a motif. Two tracks, actually, Marian: THE BEES ARRIVE, and END TITLE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Richard said: Frankly, Jay, it's among his finest. It's energetic, tender, tense, soaring, and triumph. In short: everything the film isn't. It's Jerry's JAWS 2. It's also #6 on my all-time top-Jerry list. Wow! Awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 11 minutes ago, Jay said: I've never heard that score or seen that film. What's the score like? It's a very over-dramatic score in places, playing up the ludicrousness of the film with what I consider a slyly funny score. Lots of zany orchestration for the bee attack sequences. Some great Americana touches in like the end credits. I think it's a very effortlessly entertaining disaster score. Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,174 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Richard said: Two tracks, actually, Marian: THE BEES ARRIVE, and END TITLE. It's been years, possibly decades, since I've listened to it. All I remember is that it sounded cool and I'm eagerly awaiting a new release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,499 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 It is cool, and the COP plays both cues, well. 4 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: It's a very over-dramatic score in places, playing up the ludicrousness of the film with what I consider a slyly funny score. Lots of zany orchestration for the bee attack sequences. Some great Americana touches in like the end credits. I think it's a very effortlessly entertaining disaster score. I don't think that it's as laugh-out-loud hilarious as DAMIEN, but, yeah, it's funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted September 25, 2019 Author Share Posted September 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: Candidates that come to my mind are: Air Force One The Swarm Macarthur Six Degrees of Separation And I would be very happy about any of them! Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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