Jurassic Shark 12,008 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jay said: *shrug* I just bought the box that had all 3 volumes on CD, even though I already owned the first two That's just annoyingly redundant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,153 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jay said: It was only released digitally as its own album. Physically, it's only in the "Ultimate" box set. Oh, right. I'd forgotten I bought the box set to get it. Jurassic Shark and The Illustrious Jerry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,008 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jay said: It was only released digitally as its own album. Physically, it's only in the "Ultimate" box set. It's also in the JW conductor box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 34 minutes ago, Martinland said: Hopefully this explains my snappy answer above and, again, I am sorry for any confusion that may have caused. No need to apologier about ”snappy” replies. There’ve been much worse on the forum - I interpreted your reply as difference of opinion. ; ) Martinland 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,078 Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 On 3/23/2019 at 7:34 PM, rough cut said: For an amp, I got the Denon AVR-X4400H. For speakers, I got the Q Acoustics 3020i and the 3090Ci. As for the sub, I got the Elac 2030. I can highly recommend all of the above, the sound is massive. Great depth, fantastic details and lots of fast responding, deep bass when you need it. What are you currently playing your music on? Nice. I have an old DENON AVR 3311 . Planning to upgrade to a similar one the X4500. Since Ive bought my 4K UHD TV. Need to get a high end 4KBlu ray player as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 Thanks! Yeah, I am super happy with the set up. What I love is that, in today’s day and age, people have forgotten what music sounds like, and to remind my friends and visitera of that... How much depth there actually is. Today, Spotify and portable Bluetooth speakers rule the world - but playing music on a system like this is quite the different experience. I have loved the reaction from each of my friends that I’ve had come over, when we sit down and actually listen to music. They’ve all had their minds blown. Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 963 Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 On 3/23/2019 at 3:34 PM, rough cut said: For an amp, I got the Denon AVR-X4400H. For speakers, I got the Q Acoustics 3020i and the 3090Ci. As for the sub, I got the Elac 2030. I can highly recommend all of the above, the sound is massive. Great depth, fantastic details and lots of fast responding, deep bass when you need it. What are you currently playing your music on? When I don't want to bother anyone : Audio Technica ATH-MSR7b. (Best headphone ever, I had the first version MSR7 and even better with this one MSR7b) When I don't care : Onkyo TX-NR545, Focal Sib & Cub3 rough cut and Ricard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,436 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 On 5/17/2019 at 3:14 PM, Jurassic Shark said: It's also in the JW conductor box. I bought a CD copy in Japan that only contained the vol. 3 disc, without the first two. I'd link to it but I'm having trouble finding it online right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,008 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, Smeltington said: I bought a CD copy in Japan that only contained the vol. 3 disc, without the first two. I'd link to it but I'm having trouble finding it online right now. I'm guessing it didn't contain English liner mores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,436 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 The CD booklet is all in English, but it contains a separate insert with the same contents in Japanese. The whole thing is in a jewel case, containing the CD and the DVD. It should have been released everywhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,008 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,624 Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 this c.d. set is sort of useless .It's all pieces we got tons of re-recordings of. The performances are ok but not really distinctive and better ones can be found elsewhere. Sound is ok but not the best.CE3K and E.T. are the inferior concert versions compared to the original recordings .the short version of Olympic Fanfare sucks The only thing is the Adagio I guess and what a wasted opportunity to record Han Solo and the Princess Arpy and Holko 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,008 Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 Agreed that it's not an exceptional album, but there's a few new arrangements that are not found anywhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 Yes, I kinda agree to all of the above, but somehow still don’t feel it’s useless. Maybe it’s the new arrangements. Maybe it’s that awesome recording of Jaws. I dunno, but I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,242 Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 3 hours ago, King Mark said: CE3K and E.T. are the inferior concert versions compared to the original recordings Did you expect them to perform the OST arrangements? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,008 Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 He probably expected the complete scores. Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,624 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 16 hours ago, Ricard said: Did you expect them to perform the OST arrangements? No, I'm just saying I never listen to the concert arrangements of these pieces, on any of the c.d.'s that have them. And we have them yet again to fill up precious c,.d. space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 If we ever get a recording of the new Han Solo and the Princess, I hope the tempo isn't as fast as two of the three performances I've seen, which, especially in its last two minutes is detrimental to the poignancy of the piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 I think this will be a constant “flaw” that we will have to live with in the track list selection of all future compilations. It’s nothing new - it’s just that it gets more apparent for seasoned fans like ourselves because we’ve already bought so many of these kind of CDs through the years. I really need to start a topic regarding the wish list for Lights, Camera... Music Vol. 2. Now that would be a disc that didn’t waste space on “unnecessary” re-recordings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,624 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Arpy said: If we ever get a recording of the new Han Solo and the Princess, I hope the tempo isn't as fast as two of the three performances I've seen, which, especially in its last two minutes is detrimental to the poignancy of the piece. I think the Williams conducted ones I heard are the best ones so far, but when Williams conducts in concerts it sounds different than his official recordings (like Rebellion is Reborn and Adventures of Han sound nothing like the OST) The first performance by that Glasgow Orchestra sounded a bit incoherent and the Dirk Brosse LSO performance was WAY too slow and lasted 2 minutes longer The only way we'd hear the real intended version is if Williams himself made a studio recording As much as I like Lights,Camera,Music, the performances aren't quite at the level of Williams conducted ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,008 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 He probably got paid by the minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thor 7,451 Posted July 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 8, 2019 Our own Marian Schedenig reviews the album extensively here: http://celluloidtunes.no/celebrating-john-williams-gustavo-dudamel-the-la-philharmonic-orchestra/ Jurassic Shark, Ricard and Marian Schedenig 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,008 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 An enlightening, detailed review that puts nothing in-between! Marian Schedenig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 Always fun to read about Williams! But it incorrectly states that Marion’s Theme was on Keith Lockhart’s Lights, Camera… Music! while it was on Williams’ own Spielberg/Williams Collaboration Part III. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,153 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 6 hours ago, rough cut said: But it incorrectly states that Marion’s Theme was on Keith Lockhart’s Lights, Camera… Music! while it was on Williams’ own Spielberg/Williams Collaboration Part III. You're right of course. Goes to show that no amount of proof reading will prevent the most obvious mistakes. Hope Thor and/or Co can correct it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 A really fun read nonetheless! It’s a tough thing reviewing these re-recorded ”greatest hits” in that they are a bit of a paradoxical listen for us JWfans... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,451 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 49 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: You're right of course. Goes to show that no amount of proof reading will prevent the most obvious mistakes. Hope Thor and/or Co can correct it. Done! Completely slipped by me too. Marian Schedenig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2020 I revisited this album following my personal disappointment with the performance of the orchestra (and the sound) on the Vienna album. I still have some issues with the mix of this album but they seem relatively minor to me now, especially when the orchestra positively *lives and breathes* this material. This Williams program was one that Dudamel and the LA Phil performed many times, even taking it on tour, and it really shows when compared to the seemingly hastily rehearsed Vienna program. bollemanneke, Tydirium and Remco 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,334 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Hook still doesn't sound right, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tydirium 1,166 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 How so? I think it's a great recording of "The Flight to Neverland." The trumpet duplets at 1:10 are the clearest they've ever been. (Always wished that part would be brought out.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 589 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Disco Stu said: I revisited this album following my personal disappointment with the performance of the orchestra (and the sound) on the Vienna album. I still have some issues with the mix of this album but they seem relatively minor to me now, especially when the orchestra positively *lives and breathes* this material. This Williams program was one that Dudamel and the LA Phil performed many times, even taking it on tour, and it really shows when compared to the seemingly hastily rehearsed Vienna program. There is an unedited concert of Dudamel and LA Phil on youtube with the same programm. You hear more mistakes than in Vienna though.. Shows you how much the official release was fixed... Here is another concert with Dudamel. So if you think this "Out to sea" is better than VPO... lol. It sounds rushed and is full of flubs. Listen from 12:36 @bollemanneke @Jurassic Shark This version is a bit better but still worse than VPO: You see: Only a "repaired" Dudamel can walk on water tmarps 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,008 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 29 minutes ago, Steve said: It sounds rushed and is full of flubs I don't have much problem with flubs. It's severe timing issues that gets to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 589 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: I don't have much problem with flubs. It's severe timing issues that gets to me. If you don't hear the timing issues in the Edinburgh performance, you haven't heard anything in the VPO version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,008 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 I can't listen to videos right now, I was just making a general statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2020 Uhhh, the live broadcast of the LA Phil doing the Jaws suite is a much better performance. It sounds bright and alive! Not leaden and sluggish like on the Vienna album. Remco, Jurassic Shark and Steve 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,008 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Steve said: You see: Only a "repaired" Dudamel can walk on water They should have repaired JW's Vienna performance as well. After all, they did two concerts and a pick-up session. 1 hour ago, Steve said: Listen from 12:36 @bollemanneke @Jurassic Shark Frankly, I find the uneven flute playing in the Vienna recording more disturbing. Listen from 0:48: Oh, and the orchestra really isn't together from 0:36. 13 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Not leaden and sluggish like on the Vienna album. I guess the DG engineers just forgot to speed up the performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 589 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 I give it up. You simply want to dislike it. 20 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Oh, and the orchestra really isn't together from 0:36 It's very much together. And the flutist is playing well and in time. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,008 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 31 minutes ago, Steve said: It's very much together. And the flutist is playing well and in time. Whatever you say. Good for you that you can't hear it, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 589 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 17 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Whatever you say. Good for you that you can't hear it, I guess. Don't be so snobby ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,008 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Stop the self-deception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Steve said: I give it up. You simply want to dislike it. Give up what? I mean no disrespect, just saying what tickles my ears and what doesn't! If I'm posting in anything other than the spirit of friendliness I'm not usually subtle about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 This Steve is fine with both approaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 589 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 40 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Give up what? I mean no disrespect, just saying what tickles my ears and what doesn't! If I'm posting in anything other than the spirit of friendliness I'm not usually subtle about it Sorry, I was talking to Jurassic Shark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remco 685 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Steve said: I give it up. You simply want to dislike it. It's very much together. And the flutist is playing well and in time. No, it is not. Stop being so stubborn, the VPO in Jaws is not together on many moments. And the flutist fucks up. That has nothing to do with opinions. Is the orchestra still of world class? Yes. Is it understandable that it happened given the amount of rehearsal time? Yes, probably. Should it be published on a Deutsche Gramophon CD? Maybe not. Tydirium and Jurassic Shark 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 589 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 9 hours ago, Remco said: No, it is not. Stop being so stubborn, the VPO in Jaws is not together on many moments. And the flutist fucks up. That has nothing to do with opinions. Is the orchestra still of world class? Yes. Is it understandable that it happened given the amount of rehearsal time? Yes, probably. Should it be published on a Deutsche Gramophon CD? Maybe not. We are talking 0:49 to 0:59 here? The flute playing is a bit erratic, not perfectly clean and I think some notes are missing, timing is ok though. Please point out which specific points you think are not together. From 1:59 till the end everthing is perfectly together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,008 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 13 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Oh, and the orchestra really isn't together from 0:36. Steve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 589 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Jurassic Shark said: Sorry, but if you really think so I can't take your comments serious anymore (if I ever did). Point out ANYTHING that is not together in the Shark Cage Fugue. Here is a good example for something that is NOT together: 5:32 starting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,369 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 i love it so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,008 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Steve said: Point out ANYTHING that is not together in the Shark Cage Fugue. Why can't you listen to the obvious example I provided early in the track? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 589 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Jurassic Shark said: Why can't you listen to the obvious example I provided early in the track? Yes, 3 seconds at 0:36 are not together. And thereafter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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