Naïve Old Fart 9,497 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Especially for Bespin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,479 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,497 Posted February 3, 2019 Author Share Posted February 3, 2019 Bes, my friend...darling, this is meant to be a meaningful discussion about the merits of John Powell's HTTYD scores...and all you can say is "LOL"?! Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 The movies are great too! They’re among the few movies that actually deserved Powell’s presence to some degree. TV show is mostly stupid, but cute and harmless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locrius 97 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 I think it’s time for someone far more knowledgeable than I to do a theme catalogue/track analysis ala SW and LOTR. I still don’t know all the themes and motifs in this trilogy; there are so many! Bofur01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 I haven't the mental energy to do every theme in one huge post, but I'll start you off with what I consider to be Hiccup's theme. Pretty much the entirety of this track. And 3:15 of this one. And 3:52 of this one. Smaug The Iron and Locrius 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 The varying capitalization of the thread title is setting off my OCD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,029 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 So, how do I train my dragon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: The varying capitalization of the thread title is setting off my OCD. Why DOES that bother YOU, Jerry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 I think I need to take a break from JW Fan, for a little while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,497 Posted February 3, 2019 Author Share Posted February 3, 2019 51 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: So, how do I train my dragon? I know how to drain mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,029 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 😱 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 hour ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: I think I need to take a break from JW Fan, for a little while. YOU are the NEW Stu, JERRY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,029 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 I am Stu! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 You are not The STU! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,029 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 I'm Classical Stu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Locrius 97 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Warrior of Wet Dreams said: I haven't the mental energy to do every theme in one huge post, but I'll start you off with what I consider to be Hiccup's theme. Pretty much the entirety of this track. And 3:15 of this one. And 3:52 of this one. Thanks! What about the so-called "Lost and Found" theme I keep hearing about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,029 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 He's lost it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 36 minutes ago, Locrius said: Thanks! What about the so-called "Lost and Found" theme I keep hearing about? I'm at work right now so I can't link videos and specific points, but you can especially look for it in "Toothless Found" and "Losing Mom" in HTTYD2 (the latter having a piano rendition of it, if I recall correctly). Locrius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Oh, and this thread ought to be titled "How to Train Your Dragon Enchantment", for contrast. Bofur01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 What the hey, I'll do another theme ID, since I'm a rare lad that's actually watched these movies and thus has some idea what theme applies to who/what. This is the theme for the beautiful thief of my heart, Astrid! My otherwise cold dead cat-loving heart ignites whenever it pops up throughout the three scores. 2:59 And of course, Romantic Flight. Also opens the cue "Coming Back Around". In HTTYD2, you'll hear it in "Hiccup the Chief" and the latter half of "Two New Alphas". Locrius and Smaug The Iron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 481 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Is this movie not coming to IMAX? I wanted to pre-order my tickets for it but see no IMAX screenings anywhere in my area and even beyond. 3D is really scarce as well. I usually don't care for 3D especially, but this series is one of the few where it really excels. Anyone else notice this? (I'm in the United States in California) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SyncMan 313 Posted February 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2019 The Live-to-Projection concert program of How to Train Your Dragon is getting a USA premiere: Houston Symphony Orchestra at Cynthia Woods Mitchell Pavilion,The Woodlands, TX, May 30, 2019 Jay, SteveMc, Kasey Kockroach and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Three hour drive....presumably can't handle that. But what the hey, I'll at least gladly look into it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 I've always wondered what this recurring motif represents. The moments this riff plays in don't seem to have an obvious connection to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Is there a hot blonde in these movies who controls the dragons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, dougie said: Is there a hot blonde in these movies who controls the dragons? I don't know what the heck you mean by "controls", but Astrid's a darling! Oh, it's a Game of Thrones reference. Sorry. I don't keep up with what you kids watch nowadays! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Kasey Kockroach said: I've always wondered what this recurring motif represents. The moments this riff plays in don't seem to have an obvious connection to me. I always thought of it as a Hiccup/Toothless bonding theme or something like that. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 It’s in Forbidden Friendship too! I feel like such an idiot for not noticing that until now and I’ve heard that track a billion times! Edit: And now I'm realizing it's in Romantic Flight and others, and I never noticed it because Powell's playing it at different speeds, tempos, chords, etc. Or I'm an unobservant idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Yeah it is all over the three scores. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,339 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 I have always thought of it as Toothless' theme, or at least his portion of the Friendship/Flying Theme and it only connects with the other portion when Hiccup and T start bonding I have heard people call it the Friendship Ostinato. Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 I feel so embarrassed I never fully noticed its many appearances until now. Which is to say, never realized 'hey, that's the same melody as this part!', basically. I call myself a fanatic and there's still so many little pieces I have yet to fully discover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bofur01 245 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 You can also hear it peeking out from behind the Hidden World theme in 'The Hidden World' and the Suite - most obviously near 3:00 in the former track, I think? Unless that's the Fate riff, I'm not actually so sure, listening to it back again. But yeah, it's in 'Where No One Goes', 'Test Drive', and... everywhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,287 Posted December 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2021 Apparently someone's been hired to write a book about the score in all 3 movies: "Umm, I just finished a full draft of my book, The Music of the How to Train Your Dragon Trilogy. Had a little cry. I’ve done little else besides this for six months. It means a lot to me. Hopefully you can hold a copy next Christmas." source: https://twitter.com/erikjheine/status/1471181371964108804 So maybe the Expanded releases of 2 and 3, and the Omni books for 2 and 3, will also both be out by next Christmas? bollemanneke, WampaRat and Edmilson 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Faleel 5,339 Posted December 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2021 "My upcoming project is writing a book on John Powell’s music for the How to Train Your Dragon films. Both John and Batu Sener have been instrumental (ha!) in getting materials to me and have both been extremely kind and supportive of the project. I’m using Doug Adams’s book on the music in the Lord of the Rings films as a model, and hope that I can successfully navigate the space between too academic and not musical-theoretical enough. I have a sabbatical lined up in the Fall of 2021 to do much of the work, but don’t count on seeing it published in the next 24 months!" http://filmmusiccritics.org/2021/04/introducing-the-critic-erik-heine/ WampaRat, Kasey Kockroach, Smaug The Iron and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Awesome I guess we'll be getting books inspired by @Doug Adams's first book before we get his own second and third books... mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,392 Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Bring it on more film music books inspired by Doug Adams'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WampaRat 1,105 Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Can’t think of another series of scores* composed in this last decade that are more worthy of this treatment Very exciting news indeed (*That aren’t Middle-Earth Related or composed by JW) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Absolutely true. As far as 2010s scores go, the Hobbit tril, HTTYD tril, and Star Wars sequel tril are all worth writing books about. Nothing else is. Hunger games scores? X-Men scores? MCU scores? Game of Thrones scores? I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 How about a book on Donkey Kong Country music? hahahaha I’m just kidding it’s just a joke ...unless? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 I specifically was only talking about scores of the 2010s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 15 minutes ago, Jay said: I specifically was only talking about scores of the 2010s I don’t disagree. Except maybe a book on the Gremlins scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,392 Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 20 minutes ago, Jay said: Hunger games scores? X-Men scores? MCU scores? Game of Thrones scores? I don't think so. I like the Hunger Games scores and I'd buy a book about them, but I know I'm minority. Tallguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 I'm not necessarily saying they are bad scores, but is there enough themes in them, enough remarkable passages no one else would write, enough interesting techniques and different / unique instruments and writing techniques used, that would warrant a multiple-hundred page discussion of them? The HTTYD, Hobbit, and SW Sequel scores all have all that in spades, from what I have heard in the HG scores, they do not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForestMusic 31 Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 John Powell, aka one of the greatest composers of modern cinema! I really don't like Zimmer as much as Powell, because, at least to me, Powell has more creativity and depth in his compositions! I'm not saying that Interstellar or The DaVinci Code don't have much depth to them, but Powell somehow sounds more "rich", at least to me. WampaRat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 So I'm listening to the Gettsburgs OST album by Randy Edelman and getting strong How To Train Your Dragon main theme vibes.... anyone else ever pick up on this? WampaRat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WampaRat 1,105 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 16 minutes ago, Jay said: So I'm listening to the Gettsburgs OST album by Randy Edelman and getting strong How To Train Your Dragon main theme vibes.... anyone else ever pick up on this? Haha. Very similar “inspirational moment” chord progressions. I love that score. My history teacher Mother would always play the Gettysburg soundtrack on cassette (!) when we would take long road trips to Wyoming. Always had a soft spot for Randy Edelman:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 I'm halfway through the OST album now and not liking it too much, and haven't heard any more HTTYD-ness after the first 2 tracks I wonder if the film was temp-tracked with Gettsyburg in spots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,670 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Those samples don't sell Gettysburg at all to me. Far too synth-sounding for a major score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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