Arpy 4,145 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Bespin said: All the answers to my question are unsatisfactory. That’s lame. What makes you think MM isn't working on new sets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 I guess Sony just can't deal with the labels' shit anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,384 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 47 minutes ago, crumbs said: If we get The Patriot at all, it'll be next year for the 20th Anniversary. Is this anniversary stuff still a thing? I mean, yeah, the LLL E.T. was released on the 35th anniversary of the movie, Saving Private Ryan was the 20th anniversary and Schindler's List was the 25th anniversary... But the JP box was released in 2016, 23rd anniversary of the first one and 19th of the second; HP was on the 17th anniversary of PS, 16th of CoS and 14th of PoA; A.I. was on the 14th anniversary; Empire of the Sun on the 27th... Not very round numbers. I guess if the release coincides with a round number anniversary, so yeah, great, another marketing hook. But if not, there's no problem, people will be buying the box set anyway. Othewise, we would have the JP box on 2018 (25 years later the release of the first movie) and the HP box on 2021 (20th anniversary of PS). 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted September 18, 2019 Author Share Posted September 18, 2019 And Lucasfilm happily ignored the 40th of Star Wars and the 20th of Phantom Menace, soundtrack-wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,359 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Thinking in terms of anniversaries keeps hope alive! So, like, Pandora’s box, wasn’t hope the one thing that she managed to keep in there at the end, the one thing that gave humanity a reason to live? (My greek mythology is rusty.) We need a reason to look forward to the future, and that’s what hope is! LLL Patriot in 2020; I can feel it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Jurassic Park also got a surprise 20th anniversary digital reissue that no one saw coming. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 It'll get a 30th Anniversary streaming release. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Just get the mp3 USB stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 The Lost World didn't even get a jewel case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Neither did Jurassic World and Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,475 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Arpy said: What makes you think MM isn't working on new sets? I had that terrible dream, where I saw Mike Matessino in the streets as a homeless guy. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Again? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,475 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Yes. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,300 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 6 hours ago, Edmilson said: Is this anniversary stuff still a thing? I mean, yeah, the LLL E.T. was released on the 35th anniversary of the movie, Saving Private Ryan was the 20th anniversary and Schindler's List was the 25th anniversary... Don't forget the CE3K 40th Anniversary. Around the time of the ET set Mike said the studio and Williams management approached him specifically because of the approaching anniversary, so studios and Williams' management are cognizant of it. Also, anniversaries align with a reduction in union/licensing fees for some scores, making them financially viable for labels. And as someone else pointed out, JP did have a 20th anniversary expansion -- it just had nothing to do with Mike. The LLL JP box eventuated because Mike was asked if he wanted to release a new expansion to tie-in with the JP LTP concerts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 10 hours ago, King Mark said: At least almost all the important non Indy-SW expansions got out before this if we get the The Patriot then I would be satisfied. Again, Sony Music has nothing to do with The Patriot bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,337 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 8 hours ago, King Mark said: Star Wars Box...keep dreaming Why do you always have to be so negative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 That's KM's role here. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 JWFan is like an intricately choreographed dance. We all have our parts to play out. bollemanneke and The Illustrious Jerry 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 And it's Disco Stu's role to point that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Disco dance. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,155 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 4 hours ago, crumbs said: Don't forget the CE3K 40th Anniversary. Around the time of the ET set Mike said the studio and Williams management approached him specifically because of the approaching anniversary, so studios and Williams' management are cognizant of it. Also, anniversaries align with a reduction in union/licensing fees for some scores, making them financially viable for labels. And as someone else pointed out, JP did have a 20th anniversary expansion -- it just had nothing to do with Mike. The LLL JP box eventuated because Mike was asked if he wanted to release a new expansion to tie-in with the JP LTP concerts. And Home Alone 25th, Jaws 40th, Superman 40th... bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Crikey, Home Alone will be 30 next year! mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Perfect time for a reboot! mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Time for another LLL, this time recording and amplifying the echoes of the actual sessions in the studio! It doesn't get any better or closer than this, we swear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,384 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 I didn't said anniversaries weren't a thing, I just think that they're not mandatory. Otherwise, Matessino would be like "And, with that, we finish our work on the Harry Potter collection. Great job, everyone! Now, we'll just keep this in a locked vault until the first movie completes 20 years since its release". But I get it, round number anniversaries are the safest way of predicting when an expanded box set will be released. This year will mark the 30th of Born on the Fourth of July, so maybe that's the big Williams release of the year? It is also the 45th of The Towering Inferno and Earthquake, 35th of The River, 30th of Always and 15th of The Terminal. It is the 25th of Legends of the Fall too, which could have been celebrated with an expansion. Thanks, Sony! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 12 hours ago, Edmilson said: EDIT: Angela's Ashes OST was released by Sony, so we may cross that option, lol. The dialogue free European version was released by Decca, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,300 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 11 hours ago, Edmilson said: But I get it, round number anniversaries are the safest way of predicting when an expanded box set will be released. We don't always have much to work with, so it's one of the better ways to predict what might be coming. SPR 20th was probably the release that made us pay more attention to anniversaries. As you pointed out, the majority of MM's recent expansions have been unrelated to anniversaries (11 to 7 over the last 5 years). Expansions that coincided with LTP concerts have been factors as well (these have all been expanded except Raiders & SW 4-9). It's an easy pitch to Williams: "Hey John, this score has a live concert coming up next year. Wouldn't it be great if we got an expansion out with your original intentions for the score, without all the edits heard in the film version?" Another reason is studios often remaster old movies for anniversaries on new formats (4K) which sometimes means a new sound mix. So labels can piggyback off a studio spending money scanning the scoring masters anew. Smeltington and Edmilson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Edmilson said: I didn't said anniversaries weren't a thing, I just think that they're not mandatory. Otherwise, Matessino would be like "And, with that, we finish our work on the Harry Potter collection. Great job, everyone! Now, we'll just keep this in a locked vault until the first movie completes 20 years since its release". I think they release them as fast as they can once they get all the approvals, just in case someone changes their mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 These companies are tiny. Once investing money into a project (paying for the license, paying for transfers), of course they want a return on that investment as soon as possible. It doesn't have as much to do with an entity "changing their mind" as it has to do with literally needing to release a product people will buy so money comes in so you can begin the next project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Exclusive picture of LLL's money vault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 They need to spray the silverfish away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Spray away? I thought silverfish was their favorite food... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted September 19, 2019 Author Share Posted September 19, 2019 I could be wrong but this may be one of the two Intrada Sony Music releases we have left: https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=136760&forumID=1&archive=0 On 2/11/2019 at 11:26 AM, JTWfan77 said: A little bit of good news from Roger (Intrada forums):Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 Hoping Intrada will give us some good news re titles that "made it through" in time Roger's reply:We have two that are still green lit, but the studio side has been a bit slammed so we're still waiting for clearance on that side to get going. Edit: Yavar confirmed its a Mainstream title not Sony, so still two Intrada Sony titles left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 19, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 19, 2019 On 9/18/2019 at 6:37 AM, Disco Stu said: Crikey, Home Alone will be 30 next year! Christopher Lloyd looks awful these days. Edmilson, bollemanneke and Bespin 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 On 2/17/2019 at 4:02 AM, Þekþiþm said: Glory days are over. Say hello to the miserable and depressing 2020s. This is a disturbingly prescient post for many reasons that have nothing to do with soundtracks. Yavar Moradi, bollemanneke and Pieter Boelen 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,337 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 If only LLL confirmed Hook is safe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 The coronavirus probably got to it. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Never heard of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 On 9/18/2019 at 3:37 PM, Disco Stu said: Crikey, Home Alone will be 30 next year! That's what the coronavirus does to you. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 I had forgotten that Roger from Intrada also said they had 2 approved before the letter went out Quote We have two that are still green lit, but the studio side has been a bit slammed so we're still waiting for clearance on that side to get going. http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=80972#p80972 The only title they've put out since then licensed from Sony Music was John Barry's King Rat in August 2019 http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.11967/.f So they have one more coming too, on top of LLL's two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 9 minutes ago, Jay said: The only title they've put out since then licensed from Sony Music was John Barry's King Rat in August 2019 http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.11967/.f So they have one more coming too, on top of LLL's two Mainstream owns King Rat, they purchased their catalogue back from Sony. So Intrada has two SM titles still due, along with LLLs two. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Ah, cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 At least, that's what I was told by @Yavar Moradi Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 FWIW, the official press release still mentions Sony Legacy http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8269 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 That's interesting, and a bit confusing. The back cover only mentions Mainstream: And of course I can't find Yavar's comment about Mainstream purchasing back their catalogue anywhere. *facepalm* Edit: actually, the press release only makes mention of the prior CD release on Sony Legacy, it does not indicate which entity currently has ownership of the title. So there are presumably still four possible chances for Hook to be released, unless another label got access before the door closed (Varese is the only one that I think could have potentially). TSMefford and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,585 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Kritzerland had also gotten into Sony before this happened, but I think their reissue of Jerome Moross's The Cardinal (first time on CD from the original tapes, and in great sound) last year was the final Sony title from them. Bruce Kimmel mentioned he had others on his to-do list, but I don't think he'd actually licensed them in time. As it was, he apparently had to fight tooth and nail to make The Cardinal still happen. And I don't remember making that claim about Mainstream owning all of their original catalogue again, but I am fairly certain it is true. Intrada has been releasing bunches of their albums from the original tapes for the first time. Yavar 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted March 31, 2020 Author Share Posted March 31, 2020 Yes, I've searched everywhere for that comment (FSM, Intrada and here) but cannot find it, the only reason I even remember it is because I referenced you in my post about it shortly after King Rat was announced. Perhaps I imagined it, who knows? It isn't the first time my memory has failed me. The fact that Mainstream releases Intrada's expansions and remasters digitally gives me hope that Sony Music has no further rights to their catalogue, which is a roundabout way of saying there are still two possible Intrada releases that may be Hook. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,281 Posted April 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 1, 2020 MASSIVE UPDATE FROM MV! Quote Quote Does LLLR still have two titles in the works licensed from Sony Music that were approved before they sent out that letter? We are able to do Sony music titles afterall. So business as usual...well as of pre-Corona. ?? https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=118900&forumID=1&archive=0 The Illustrious Jerry, Dr. Rick, crumbs and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Oh cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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