Holko 9,516 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 I really can't tell whether it'd be better to know exactly what is being worked on but not know if it comes out in a month or a decade. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Always - The Expanded Score 🛬 aescalle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Yes, but they wouldn’t start work on it ’till it’s all done. If licensing fell through, all work would’ve been for nothing. From a marketing perspective, I’d say it’s a good strategy to keep any news “in-house” until it’s close to release, for the news to make a big “splash” in the media. And let very release speak for it self. But what these labels are doing is some kind of half-assed maneuver that makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 1 hour ago, rough cut said: Yes, but they wouldn’t start work on it ’till it’s all done. If licensing fell through, all work would’ve been for nothing. They've repeatedly had projects in the pipeline that were all but done and just waited for one last party to sign off on the cover artwork. Again, for months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: They've repeatedly had projects in the pipeline that were all but done and just waited for one last party to sign off on the cover artwork. Again, for months. Just forge the signature, dammit! bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: They've repeatedly had projects in the pipeline that were all but done and just waited for one last party to sign off on the cover artwork. Again, for months. Even more so a reason to not say anything until it’s all a done deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Just fire Jim Titus and have a blank cover. It would make the release cheaper! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,492 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 20 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Just fire Jim Titus and have a blank cover. It would make the release cheaper! Have I told the story of how I helped start Jim Titus' career? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Just now, Thor said: Have I told the story of how I helped start Jim Titus' career? Not that I'm aware of. I'm guessing the story includes something about OSTs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thor 7,492 Posted March 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2019 Sort of. "Helping his career" is a bit of a stretch, perhaps, but several years ago -- before he got the A list assignments -- Jim and I became cyberfriends. I had several CD-Rs in my collection that needed artwork. He offered to make the artwork for me for his own practice. A couple of years later, he used those artwork pieces on his CV, as a way to get the assignments in the record label business. I still have many of them on my hard drive; I could maybe post them here for Jim Titus fans out there! He also designed the cover of my master/Cand.Philol. thesis in 2004, which I eventually printed on a nice, glossy paper: That_Bloke, bollemanneke and Amer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 That would be fun, if he approves of it. He might not be proud of them today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,492 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Yeah, I should maybe ask first. Besides, it's a different topic altogether; better suited for another thread, perhaps. They're beautiful, though -- and an early sign of the great soundtrack designer he would eventually become (really the best designer these days). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Thor said: Yeah, I should maybe ask first. Besides, it's a different topic altogether; better suited for another thread, perhaps. They're beautiful, though -- and an early sign of the great soundtrack designer he would eventually become (really the best designer these days). As a cyberfriend you should buy the expansions he did the artwork for. Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,096 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Jim is a gifted and a perceptive artist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Monsignor would be nice. Jay said there was some unused music we never heard 1977 and Bryant Burnette 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpeteer 302 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 On 3/7/2019 at 5:24 PM, igger6 said: @Trumpeteer's The Baton podcast has lit up a few neat Johnny albums in the last few months. "The Secret Ways" main theme is great! But I'd almost rather see a Lockhart-style highlights album of the best of those. Some of those very early scores have so little music in them. Two of them could be combined for one album, I suppose. I would like to see a "Daddy-O/Because They're Young" album, since they are both about young adults. Bryant Burnette and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted March 11, 2019 Author Share Posted March 11, 2019 On 3/9/2019 at 11:14 PM, King Mark said: Monsignor would be nice. Jay said there was some unused music we never heard It wasn't me. Rodney Newton spoke about it to the hundred of us that went to Mike Matessino's London chat. http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/28986-details-from-mike-matessinos-london-talk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,492 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 6 hours ago, Trumpeteer said: I would like to see a "Daddy-O/Because They're Young" album, since they are both about young adults. In DADDY-O, most cast members (including Contino) are in their late 20s and upwards. I rather think coupling BECAUSE THEY'RE YOUNG with I PASSED FOR WHITE would make more sense, since they're both topical films about youth and teen issues. But of course, combos like these are just a 'fan dream'. In reality, even if the source material was available, it would need to be from the same studio to share disc space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 6 hours ago, Thor said: But of course, combos like these are just a 'fan dream'. In reality, even if the source material was available, it would need to be from the same studio to share disc space. Not necessarily. Pete 'n' Tillie is Universal while Stanley & Iris is MGM, yet Mike M was able to wrangle them together. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted March 11, 2019 Author Share Posted March 11, 2019 That was only possible because Varese had the album rights to Stanley and Iris, so it wasn't the usual situation of having to co-license from the entity that released the OST and the entity that owned the rest of the music. Varese already controlled both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 On 3/11/2019 at 8:13 PM, Jay said: Varese already controlled both As I understand it, Varese still needed to licence the previously unreleased Stanley & Iris music from MGM, even though they hold perp rights to the OST music. So yes, only Varese could have released an expanded S & I, but they do not hold rights to the previously unreleased music in perp (hence they will not be able to release the DE for download/streaming, whereas the OST they were able to make available). That also explains why very few of the Varese DEs have been made available for download/streaming. They hold perp rights to many of the OSTs but not the unreleased music - highlighted by the fact that many of their albums were limited to 30 minutes. There are exceptions however, such as Gremlins 2: The New Batch and Back to the Future Part III (the DEs being available for download/streaming). Most likely, Varese was able to secure digital rights for the extra music on those two titles, or perhaps they negotiated perp rights for the extra music. In any case, these exceptions are (regrettably) few and far between. I'd love digital releases of OOP DEs such as Die Hard 2, The Abyss and The 'Burbs. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 Exactly right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,597 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Pete 'n' Tillie was only added to Stanley & Iris because Mike Mattesino pushed hard for it. It definitely complicated things. Varese did not "control both" at all. They controlled only the original Stanley & Iris album, had to license/pay for all the additional cues from MGM, and had to negotiate a separate additional license with Universal to premiere the other score. But Mike went to the trouble of pursuing that because otherwise, Pete 'n' Tille probably never would have been released, not long enough to justify its own album. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 Yes, precisely "both" in my post didn't refer to Stanley and Iris and PeteNTillie, it referred to the album rights of S&I and the film cues. My post was worded poorly, the unique situation was that no outside music label was involved at all, just two film studios. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 STEPMOM please let it be stepmom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,155 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Possibility of multiple Williams releases? I won't hold my breath but you never know! Quote An update to the list: Joel McNeely, John Barry, Jerry Goldsmith, Basil Poledouris (maybe...no promises yet), Bill Conti, John Williams, James Horner, Hugo Friedhofer, Bruce Broughton, Craig Safan, Chris Young, Lalo Schifrin, Sylvester Levay, Richard Band, Laurence Rosenthal, Jerry Fielding, Bear McCreary, Randy Edelman, possibly Frank DeVol and more! And sometimes more than one by these composers! This includes some world premieres, reissues, expansions...a little of everything. http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=8108&start=45 bollemanneke and Ricard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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